01:01 <SeanTAllen> IRC lurkers who don't want to join Slack. Would you consider joining a Pony Zulip? https://zulipchat.com/

01:01 <SeanTAllen> Candle doublec kempe and whoever else ^

08:16 <Candle> Mostly it's about unifying comms into one relativly lightweight client. (wee-slack breaks horribly with the variety of differences in the slack groups; the python based localslackirc is (a) single threaded and (b) can't detect if it's websocket has disconnected, so you have to guess if it's disconnected and restart it.)

08:19 <Candle> Hint, my exploration into orato's websocket client and the http client have been driven by fixing the issues with the python implementation. I have *some* of a ircv3 capable IRCd in pony.

08:21 <Candle> Zulip looks to compound that problem; adding yet another chat potocol.

08:23 <vaninwagen> Candle: do you have a link for your ircd?

08:23 <Candle> This fragmentation: https://xkcd.com/1810/ and clearly https://xkcd.com/1782/ !

08:24 <Candle> vaninwagen: Not yet, it's in a private repo, I can lob it at github, but I'll need to tidy some of it up first.

08:24 <vaninwagen> type faster please :P

08:25 <Candle> vaninwagen: It's got no slack integration yet, it's just the ircd bit atm.

08:25 <vaninwagen> noone needs slack integration

08:25 <Candle> ¬_¬

09:11 <Candle> vaninwagen: https://github.com/CandleCandle/posse tests and all. Ruby & bundler required to run the end-to-end tests.

09:12 <vaninwagen> thanks a bunch, will try it out today :)

09:12 <vaninwagen> i can have some private conversations with myself there

09:14 <Candle> I've been having several private conversations with byself... irssi and weechat can both sort-of connect; they get stuch when trying to use some of the v3 features.

09:15 <Candle> s/byself/myself/;s/stuch/stuck/

09:15 <vaninwagen> i can listen especially well i found

09:16 <Candle> I suspect there are a couple of issues around cleaning up after disconnecting clients.

15:53 <vaninwagen> Candle you wanna announce it on Last-Week-In-Pony? https://github.com/ponylang/ponylang-website/issues/402

16:03 <Candle> vaninwagen: as in a "Candle is working on ..." entry?

16:04 <vaninwagen> or rather: look at this pristine gem i crafted!!! It does IRC in Pony! IN PONY! Cool shit

16:12 <Candle> It does feel like ponylang is perfectly suited to the role of an IRCd :)

16:13 <vaninwagen> indeed

16:13 <vaninwagen> so uou

16:13 <vaninwagen> so you should add a: FINALLY!

16:14 <Candle> There, ..

16:14 <Candle> (I'm really bad at promoting my own things!)

16:15 <aturley> i had an ircd limping along in pony a while back.

16:15 <aturley> i stopped working on it when the awfulness of IRC as a protocol overwhelmed my desire to have a pony ircd.

16:16 <Candle> It's not the worst I've worked with!

16:16 <aturley> haha i can believe that.

16:16 <aturley> i, too, have seen things ...

16:18 <SeanTAllen> like IMAP?

16:20 <Candle> The v3 additions does have one *special* complication: '\:' is the escape for a ';'.

16:20 <Candle> (it's so that you can just use a string.split(";") on the tags)

20:23 <doublec> SeanTAllen: I don't really chat enough at the moment to justify maintaining another online account and additional software - I barely keep up with IRC. When I get more time to contribute I'll sign up with whatever service Pony ends up using at that point.

20:26 <SeanTAllen> Thanks for the input doublec

20:26 <SeanTAllen> Im really try to get the temperature of things at the moment