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<sirtom67> cffi question: what about C++
<sirtom67> can i wrap C++ code?
<sirtom67> am i stuck with swig for that
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<njs> I'd appreciate some help on https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/issues/2547/sslsslobjectserver_side-is-missing-in-py35. It's weird and probably trivial...
<njs> heh, I know someone is reading this channel because I was looking at that page on bitbucket and the "watchers" count just ticked up :-)
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<fijal> cfbolz: ping
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<cfbolz> fijal: yes?
<fijal> cfbolz: i think I sorted it
<fijal> trouble with gateway.py
<cfbolz> 'yay'
<cfbolz> fijal: what are you doing?
<fijal> trying to get some statistics how strings are used
<fijal> lifetime lenghts methods
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<tos9> Any chance anyone sees anything obvious in https://github.com/HdrHistogram/HdrHistogram_py/blob/master/src/python-codec.c#L181-L251 that might explain why the outputs have different endianness on CPython vs PyPy
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<tos9> I'm trying to help debug https://github.com/HdrHistogram/HdrHistogram_py/issues/13 but given that I know neither the codebase, nor the CPython API, I'm somewhat useless now that I can't step into that with a debugger
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<tos9> OK, looks like I'm slightly too late, the endianness is wrong even before that. /me keeps digging
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<tos9> A ha. OK, I assume I'm about to make my ignorance public, but even basic stuff like assigning a field to that struct appears to do so with a different endianness
<tos9> Does something that fundamental differ between CPython and PyPy
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<tos9> Oh... it's not a struct, it's a random object
<tos9> wat
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<kenaan> rlamy py3.5 9252012ce1b9 /lib_pypy/_cffi_ssl/_stdssl/__init__.py: Add missing property _SSLSocket.server_side (fixes #2547)
<tos9> OK, /me guesses at what's happening
<tos9> If you just poke at ctypes.addressof(some_random_python_object) those things look kind of similar but have different endiannesses on PyPy vs CPython?
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<ronan> tos9: that could possibly happen, yes
<tos9> Oh, wait, but that is *not* a random Python object, and calling addressof(random_thing) doesn't actually work
<tos9> It's a ctypes.BigEndianStructure
<tos9> Which does seem like it's trying to guarantee what the endianness is
<tos9> OK! yeah that appears to be wrong for someone
<tos9> import ctypes; T = type("Thing", (ctypes.BigEndianStructure,), {"_fields_": [("thing", ctypes.c_uint)]}); t = T(); t.thing = 123456789; print ctypes.string_at(ctypes.addressof(t))
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<tos9> And yeah it looks like it's clearly PyPy that's wrong, BigEndianStructure and LittleEndianStructure produce bytes that are identical
* tos9 files a bug
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<pjenvey> tos9: I think there's already an issue for that
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<tos9> Yeah
<tos9> Along with a few dupes
<tos9> Seems pretty not good to expose that if it just plain don't work
<tos9> Which it looks like armin commented at the bottom of https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/issues/2066/ctypesbigendianstructure-does-not-appear
<tos9> ronan / pjenvey Thanks for the breadcrumbs along the way
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<mattip> arigato: can you restart the buildbot master to clear the hung win32 slave?
<arigato> ok
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<mattip> thanks, that sucessfully reset whatever was wrong with win32
<mattip> maybe nightlies will run once more
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<kenaan> amauryfa py3.5 1ca1708d0606 /pypy/module/_codecs/: Disable lone surrogates in utf-16 and utf-32 encoders
<kenaan> amauryfa py3.5 7f6e04d6d012 /: Issue 2548: os.utime() would return incorrect errno.
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