cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/54 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/133 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<arigato> as an aside, I wonder how many web sites' DNS went unexpectedly down because of brexit (I'm sure it's more than one)
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<mattip> extra_tests on win64 died with an "out of memory: couldn't allocate the next arena
<mattip> that's a new one for me
<antocuni> arigato: what has brexit to do with DNS?
<LarstiQ> antocuni: restrictions on .eu perhaps?
<cfbolz> Yes, UK countries can't use .eu anymore
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<bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/54 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/133 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<antocuni> they only had 4 years to fix the issue anyway :)
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/55 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/134 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/55 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<arigato> antocuni: vrsketch.eu was down since Jan 1st because of that. apparently there was a promise that it would continue to work in this situation, but that didn't occur
<antocuni> because vrsketch.eu was hosted in UK?
<arigato> something like that, although the company fleed the UK 3.9 years ago
<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/134 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2594 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5754 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<cfbolz> I am making some progress on 3.8 BTW, together with isidentical
<cfbolz> With some luck I'll be able to start the interpreter with the 3.8 stdlib soon
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<arigato> cfbolz: back from Christmas stuff, I could help with bytecodes if you want
<cfbolz> arigato: ah, cool! Did your move go OK?
<arigato> yes! but I'm now in sweden for a while
<cfbolz> Cool
<cfbolz> This is the change
<cfbolz> I got quite lost trying to understand it, also because PyPy does things a bit different around finally
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2594 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5754 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<jiffe> when building a cffi module using setuptools is there a way to build it under a specific path as opposed to the root directory?
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<tumbleweed> jiffe: cryptography, IIRC
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<jiffe> tumbleweed: what do you mean cryptography ?
<tumbleweed> ah, I meant, cryptography does that
<jiffe> ah so it does, that works thanks
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<cfbolz> cool, seems I can run some tests on 3.8 with 3.8 stdlib :-)
<mattip> nice. How did you get around the need to adapt the bytecodes?
<cfbolz> mattip: revert the opcode.py file for now
<cfbolz> (to 3.7)
<cfbolz> I'll push in a bit
<cfbolz> a lot of stuff is broken still
<mattip> seems reasonable to delay that till later
<cfbolz> yes
<cfbolz> a few other things fail next though
<cfbolz> mattip: also translation is still broken it seems
<cfbolz> mattip: pushed, stopping for today
<mattip> cool. Feel free to kick an own buildbot when it starts to make sense
<cfbolz> mattip: should fix translation first I think :-)
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<jiffe> know of any packages that build cffi modules at install time?
<jiffe> nm I can think of some cases where the source tree won't be available
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<tos9> jiffe: really everything should be doing that at build time at this point -- is that what you meant?
<jiffe> no, I was looking to use the version of the library used to build the files I need to access which would work in development environments but not outside of development
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