cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<cfbolz> So go is better than before, but still not great
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<mattip> the --jit off run in the branch seems a bit faster, but it might be noise
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<mattip> what is faster for implementing __iter__ in a class: a __next__ method, doing a yeild in the __iter__ method, or using itertools.chain?
<mattip> on CPython, the answer is itertools.chain is fastest, __next__ is slowest
<mattip> on PyPy it is the opposite
<cfbolz> mattip: interesting, how big is the difference?
<cfbolz> also would be interesting to know what happens with many more employees and managers
<mattip> for 300 employees and 300 managers, the itertools.chain is fastest for both implementations
<mattip> 1.97, 0.15, 0.05 for cpython
<cfbolz> right
<cfbolz> I don't think absolutely all itertools things are sow
<cfbolz> slow
<cfbolz> just sme
<cfbolz> some
<cfbolz> (need more coffee)
<mattip> 0.0574, 0.0581, 0.0288 for pypy
<antocuni> mattip: re issue 3389: it would be interesting to have a benchmark, but I think that an rpython-version of msgpack will be faster than msgpack-pypy
<cfbolz> mattip: I conclude that it's a warmup problem
<cfbolz> (go is, I mean)
<mattip> antocuni: is msgpack-pypy still around?
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<antocuni> mattip: it's on pypi: https://pypi.org/project/msgpack-pypy/
<antocuni> the repo was on bitbucket so it's gone
<antocuni> ah, it seems I migrated it to github without even noticing :) https://github.com/antocuni/msgpack-pypy
<antocuni> but it's basically unmaintained as you can see
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<mattip> cool.I was just wondering if it was lost
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<nulano> Is there a reason that Tcl8.5 (deprecated since June 2019) is used on Windows rather than 8.6? Is it just that the externals repo needs to be updated?
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