00:46 <arossdotme> where or how the heck do i have a 12v dc (batt powered) amp?! :/ that can power these 45w 4ohm car speakers that i've got my hands on.

00:46 <arossdotme> cant find anything

00:46 <arossdotme> 25w, 30~w but no 40w+

00:47 <arossdotme> i have found 50w+, 100s+ of watts amps :(

04:23 <kristianpaul> arhuaco_: what about 9v? i think you can squeeze plenty power from those big batteries

11:02 <eintopf> pcercuei: http://wiki.analog.com/resources/tools-software/linux-drivers/networking-mac802154/adf7242 are you written this howto?

11:02 <eintopf> ehm, did you...

11:03 <eintopf> "This version (01 Apr 2015 12:34) was approved by pcercuei."

11:06 <larsc> he's the master of 6lowpan

11:07 <pcercuei> heh

11:12 <eintopf> ah, but these stuff is already mainline and would like review patches for bringing the driver mainline :-) and we changed many stuff

11:13 <eintopf> http://wpan.cakelab.org/

11:13 <eintopf> and don't name it zigbee!

11:13 <eintopf> (registered trademark)

11:14 <pcercuei> I should name it ZigBee™ then

11:14 <eintopf> no, you can't name it zigbee when you don't pay money and don't making zigbee and it's not approved by zigbee alliance

11:15 <eintopf> that's why the projectname is now renamed

11:16 <eintopf> it's the same stuff like gnome and groupon, but the position is vice versa

11:17 <pcercuei> we don't advertise the adf7242 as supporting zigbee

11:17 <larsc> the wikipage refers to the zigbee project, that should renamed to wpan-project

11:18 <eintopf> larsc: already done

11:19 <eintopf> and I will remove the trac wiki and such stuff

11:19 <eintopf> it's obsolete

11:19 <eintopf> I mean the trac wiki of sf stuff

11:19 <eintopf> grab the driver, bring it mainline. I will review it

11:21 <larsc> I mean the ADI wiki

14:49 <DocScrutinizer05> ((<arossdotme> i have found 50w+, )) go for 50W. It's probably best you can do.

14:49 <whitequark> 50W isn't that much

14:49 <whitequark> especially for a class D amp

14:49 <DocScrutinizer05> and absolutely right for 45W speakers

14:50 <whitequark> eintopf: oh mainline already?

14:52 <DocScrutinizer05> it's a funny question whether the speaker or the amp should have higher power ranking. When amp is stronger, then you could kill the speakers with too much power. But when speaker is stronger, you can also kill the speaker when amp runs into hard clipping and thus produces lots of high frequency components

14:53 <DocScrutinizer05> usually hard clipping is considered more devastating to speakers than mild unclipped overload

14:53 <whitequark> crap. I lost my atusb

16:33 <kyak> in cafe? :) let's wait for it show up in news :)

16:33 <whitequark> what?

16:37 <kyak> well.. you know how they find "lost" gadgets in cafes before release

18:41 <arossdotme> DocScrutinizer05, ok thanks , didnt know it was worse for the speakers to overload a under powered amp