<zrafa>
Of course, electronic people here do not know anything about open source. So they feel that they are winning the heaven with the huGE effort they do to get all the money to pay the transport and hostel for the students for the courses
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<wpwrak>
you could do some intro courses a few months before. so all the students will ask how they can map their alliance/magic/etc. workflow to the synopsys tools ;)
<kyak>
is there a single production chip out there made with open source tools only?
<kyak>
how many open source chips do you know?
<kyak>
these are the questions you should ask before feeling bad about collaboration with these proprietrary vendors
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<wpwrak>
kyak: if there is one, it means that you can feel confident for you have a proof of concept; if there are many, you can feel confident because it's a well-established process; if there is none, you should be ecstatic for you'll do truly pioneering work. a win-win-win scenario :)
<wpwrak>
besides, they've been at some of those tools for a long time. so there must be at least a bunch of chips from academic projects.
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