<feabeaeadd>
I am surprised to see so many people on this channel
<feabeaeadd>
I'm just checking out, out of curiosity
<feabeaeadd>
I thought Qi Hardware was dead and long gone
<feabeaeadd>
How have things been doing for the last 7 years?
<wpwrak>
7 years already ? wow. time flies :)
<feabeaeadd>
Yes, it does
<wpwrak>
well, there's a wee bit of activity on the nanonote every now and then.
<wpwrak>
i still have the anelok project. been very quiet for a while but now i found a new cpu to play with, the ingenic x1000. that should make things interesting again :)
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<feabeaeadd1>
I see wpwrak
<feabeaeadd1>
I don't have time to contribute to the nanonote :(
<feabeaeadd1>
But it would have been interesting to update all the software and the toolchain
<feabeaeadd1>
Considering that everything is still working with kernel 2.6 and gcc4
<feabeaeadd1>
There's a lot of improvement that has been done since then, it's probably worth it
<feabeaeadd1>
But I'm no kernel/gcc expert either.
<feabeaeadd1>
Although, on the electronic side, I don't know where to start, as I have zero knowledge in electronics whatsoever
<feabeaeadd1>
I know that capacitors hold charge, the bigger, the better. But that's about it! :P
<paul_boddie>
wpwrak: Did you get a development board for the X1000 in the end?
<eintopf>
L4 Fiasco? waaahhhhhhhhh
<paul_boddie>
?
<paul_boddie>
feabeaeadd: There is kernel renovation going on, but I haven't managed to get Paul C's work to run yet.
<paul_boddie>
The pinctrl stuff seems OK, but I suspect other breakage.
<kyak>
wow, i didn't know something else can run on Ben apart from Linux
<paul_boddie>
I thought that someone must have ported something else, like a BSD or even Inferno, but maybe not.
<kyak>
oh, i remember now.. There was a guy, named Bas, and he had ab "Iris" project
<paul_boddie>
Yes, Bas Wijnen made Iris available for the Ben and Trendtac/Letux 400.
<paul_boddie>
He has been very helpful when I've asked him stupid questions about the hardware. :-)
<kyak>
writing an OS from scratch for a capable hardware is such a big task..
<paul_boddie>
I previously had a simple payload that activated the screen, did some task switching, tested the keypad. Bas was really helpful about some of that.
<kyak>
feabeaeadd1: by the way, it's not 2.6, it's 3.3.8 that was the kernel is the image released last :)
<paul_boddie>
More recent kernels have worked. But things broke at 4.13, I think.
<kyak>
they will eventually kick it out of upstream, if not already
<paul_boddie>
Linux kernel development is awful for that and many other reasons.
<feabeaeadd1>
I see. I've suspected something like that
<paul_boddie>
I don't see it necessarily going away, given that much of the Ingenic stuff might be upstream, but things may need to move to device tree support.
<feabeaeadd1>
paul_boddie: It's awful, but what makes it usable are the drivers, right? As far as I know, it's the only FOSS kernel that has that much support. Otherwise, there's probably other good FOSS kernels out there for UNIX-like OSs.
<paul_boddie>
That's why I'm interested in alternatives to Linux plus the notion of generic drivers.
<feabeaeadd1>
I see
<feabeaeadd1>
I've been tinkering with OpenBSD recently, but I haven't looked much at their source code
<feabeaeadd1>
It's probably not suited for devices like the Dingoo
<feabeaeadd1>
Or is it? I don't know
<feabeaeadd1>
NetBSD should be(?) a safe bet in terms of portability and generic drivers
<paul_boddie>
I think it's NetBSD that provides the rump kernel stuff. That is quite interesting.
<paul_boddie>
Surely someone must have ported NetBSD to one of these devices. Rockbox was ported to the Dingoo and maybe the Ben, I think.
<paul_boddie>
I guess there's also RetroBSD and LiteBSD which even run on PIC32. But something more conventional/modern would be more feasible.
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<wpwrak>
paul_boddie: arrived last week, yes. they don't make the X1000 modules/boards anymore - they've now upgraded everything to X1000E (so, 64 MB of RAM).
<paul_boddie>
Sounds exciting!
<paul_boddie>
I guess the X1000 is most closely related to the JZ4770/4780.
<wpwrak>
i hope so, yes :) maybe m150 and such are an even closer match. alas, there's no programming manual for the x1000. but they publish a linux kernel. and there are PMs for the other cpus.
<wpwrak>
sadly, usbboot from xburst-tools doesn't recognize it, and trying to patch and compile it ends with a ton of issues
<wpwrak>
so i don't know yet if usb booting is still the same
<paul_boddie>
I haven't tried xburst-tools with the CI20 which uses the JZ4780.
<wpwrak>
now .. where's that TCSM in the x1000 ... it has a habit of moving around ...
<wpwrak>
seems to be the same on jz4780 and x1000. actually, M150 has it there, too. it's remapped. so that things is constant. okay, now let toggle some LED ...
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<paul_boddie>
Stuff appears and disappears, too. Although maybe they've settled on the basic peripherals now.
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<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer51: wpwrak: I want to request a PID from openmoko