lexi-lambda changed the topic of #racket to: Racket v7.2 has been released: https://blog.racket-lang.org/2019/01/racket-v7-2.html -- Racket -- https://racket-lang.org -- https://pkgs.racket-lang.org -- Paste at http://pasterack.org
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<evdubs> is there a way to install packages that were installed in a previous version?
<evdubs> like some $ raco pkg upgrade or something?
<evdubs> found it. $ raco pkg migrate
<clacke_movim> J_Arcane, ZombieChicken: I much prefer switching to (cond) rather than adding a (begin) in an (if).
<clacke_movim> ZombieChicken: if you're coming from CL, Scheme's (begin) is equivalent to CL's (progn).
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<ZombieChicken> clacke_movim: In this case I feel the (if) makes thing a bit clearer and there isn't any real chance of me needing to expand the conditions
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<ZombieChicken> anyone here familiar with charterm?
<ZombieChicken> I'm having an issue with an input loop that isn't wanting to behave
<ZombieChicken> nvm. Think I might be able to find a solution in the demo program
<clacke_movim> I think if there is an if with more than fits on a line it becomes difficult to see at a glance where the "then" ends and the "else" starts, so a cond is clearer to me.
<ZombieChicken> I have it all indented so it should be fairly obvious; the (begin ...) is in the 'else' position
<clacke_movim> You do you :-)
<ZombieChicken> yep
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<m1dnight_> Is there any vscode plugin you guys recommend? (I honestly just need syntax highlighting but hey..)
<m1dnight_> There are a couple of them, and I'd like to use the best-maintained one.
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<J_Arcane> m1dnight_: I think I have usually just used the DrRacket one from Bogatov, but Magic Racket seems nice.
<J_Arcane> Also definitely checkout Parinfer if you've never tried that.
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<rgrau> hi everyone. I'm trying racket 7.3 and trying to install a package for the first time in racket. I get an ssl-connect error, and the funny thing is the "Resolving "simple-http" via https://download.racket-lang.org/releases/7.3/catalog/", but that url returns a 404. Am I missing some configuration variable or something? command and output here => http://pasterack.org/pastes/73549
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<ZombieChicken> rgrau: 404 here as well. 7.3 was just released, so maybe give it a day for things to catch up
<ZombieChicken> also, whoever has ops might want to update topic
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<rgrau> well, the same url with 7.2 doesn't work either so...
<J_Arcane> Retro Racket: 6.0.1 running on a PowerBook G4. Getting this working has technically taken me actual months. XD https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/07fjdGbS/image.png
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<ZombieChicken> J_Arcane: Why what specific version?
<J_Arcane> ZombieChicken: 6.0.1 is the last version that released PPC binaries.
<ZombieChicken> ah
<J_Arcane> from 6.1 on, only Intel releases
<ZombieChicken> and can't build it yourself?
<J_Arcane> Possibly. I haven't tried yet. I will try 6.2 at some point, because it's the oldest version that Heresy still works on.
<J_Arcane> But 6.0.1 DrRacket is already a bit sluggish on my miserable 512mb of RAM. XD Need to sort that out.
<ZombieChicken> can't believe I'm suggestiong this, but maybe Emacs would work better for an IDE?
<J_Arcane> Almost certainly.
<J_Arcane> at least speed wise. It depends on what Emacs versions work, and which Racket plugins work with it
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<J_Arcane> oh sweet. Tigerbrew actually has a Racket 6.2.1 package.
<J_Arcane> it's the minimal installer, but you can install the rest from there presumably.
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<clacke_movim> rgrau, ZombieChicken: .../catalog/ is only the base URL. The actual URL raco fetches is $BASE_URL/pkgs-all
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<rgrau> clacke_movim: aha, thanks. I'll debug my issue further later...
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<J_Arcane> Query: I have installed minimal Racket 6.2.1 on OS X via a homebrew package, and then from there installed racket-lib, main-distribution, and drracket packages
<J_Arcane> but ... I don't have any idea how to actually run DrRacket that way. It does not appear to have bundled a binary or .app package (though there is one for GRacket).
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<lexi-lambda> J_Arcane: Run `raco pkg install drracket`.
<J_Arcane> lexi-lambda: did that
<lexi-lambda> Oh, you already did that. My bad.
<lexi-lambda> IIRC, the Homebrew package doesn’t set things up in a way where the .app gets linked someplace useful.
<J_Arcane> but at least it adds no obvious executable to the PATH and rooting around in /usr/local/Cellar didn't find much of use either
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<lexi-lambda> The Homebrew package is not “official” by any means. The .app does go someplace, but I don’t know off the top of my head where. You might have better luck using an official installer from https://download.racket-lang.org/all-versions.html.
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<J_Arcane> Unfortunately, there's no binaries for PPC Mac past 6.0.1. Maybe I'll have to build from source.
<lexi-lambda> Ah, I see, sorry. I didn’t read the scrollback.
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<lexi-lambda> J_Arcane: Here’s another approach: run `racket -e '(require setup/dirs) (find-gui-bin-dir)'`.
<J_Arcane> Yeah, it points to the Cellar bins, where there's none present, as I feared.
<J_Arcane> well, racket and raco are there, but no DrRacket
<lexi-lambda> Does `(find-user-gui-bin-dir)` give you anything useful?
<lexi-lambda> And, if all else fails: what happens if you try to run `racket -l- drracket`?
<J_Arcane> the former points to a directory that doesn't exist, and the latter throws an error in ffi-lib about the wrong version of libintl
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<J_Arcane> argh. and now my Mac locked up (probably unrelated)
<J_Arcane> apparently, my PowerBook will not operate within the confines of my home.
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<lexi-lambda> I suppose I am not shocked that Racket does not run well on PPC.
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<J_Arcane> It actually runs fine otherwise. 6.0.1 worked OK if a bit sluggish, and did have an error when quitting DrRacket, and the homebrew build of 6.2.1 minimal seems to otherwise work fine. I managed to install Heresy as intended.
<J_Arcane> I'm just having some other unrelated hardware issues with this thing that literally make no sense
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<clacke_movim> raco should have installed it in ~/Library/Racket somewhere
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<J_Arcane> Yeah. I suspect it's not building it properly on PPC for some reason.
<J_Arcane> On the upside though, I can now confirm that Heresy is PPC compatible. :D
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