<_ko1> process using "common-ruby" is documented?
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<znz_v> biff: [ruby-changes:26794] naruse:r38846 (trunk): Remove commenting out tests introduced by r38478 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=26794
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<_ko1> test
<judofyr> _ko1: hi
<_ko1> hi
<judofyr> it's working!
<_ko1> Can I ask English question?
<judofyr> sure
<_ko1> [ruby-talk:403197] Re: Redom: Distributed object based server-centric user-friendly web application framework
<_ko1> I can't understand "I deem Redom fully buzzword-compliant. "
<_ko1> what does it mean?
<judofyr> _ko1: "deem" = "consider"
<judofyr> or "think of"
<_ko1> what is " fully buzzword-compliant."
<_ko1> ?
<_ko1> buzzword friendly?
<judofyr> hm. compliant means something like "following the rules"
<_ko1> my English-Japanese dictionary also says it.
<judofyr> _ko1: companies often say that the software "compliant" to various standards/rules
<judofyr> the software is*
<_ko1> the name "redom" is buzzword standard?
<_ko1> :)
<judofyr> I think it's more because of "distributed object based server-centric user-friendly web application framework"
<_ko1> haha
<_ko1> This is his master thesis title.
<_ko1> with my supervise.
<judofyr> heh, there's even a wikipedia article about Buzzword compliant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzword_compliant
<judofyr> "Buzzword compliance is a modern version of the old practice of being checkbox compliant, ensuring that a product has all the features listed in product reviews."
<_ko1> wow.
<_ko1> I got it!
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<_ko1> !
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<_ko1> ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> g> test
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<_ko1> google web bot: Create Tests for Organizational Training and Certification Programs ... - http://www.test.com/ (and 264,000,000 hits)
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> foobar
<_ko1> end
<_ko1> chair bot: []
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> foo
<_ko1> end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> chair> clear
<judofyr> _ko1: ah. is it for the meetings?
<judofyr> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["judofyr"]
<_ko1> yes
<judofyr> nice
<judofyr> end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<judofyr> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1", "judofyr"]
<_ko1> chair> clear
<_ko1> chair bot: cleared
<_ko1> chair> show
<_ko1> chair bot: []
<_ko1> chair> push a
<_ko1> chair bot: ["a"]
<_ko1> chair> push xyzzy
<_ko1> chair bot: ["a", "xyzzy"]
<_ko1> end
<_ko1> chair bot: Next speaker: xyzzy (and [])
<_ko1> other guy can finish other's period :)
<_ko1> chair> push x
<_ko1> chair bot: ["x"]
<_ko1> chair> push y
<_ko1> chair bot: ["x", "y"]
<_ko1> chair> shift a
<_ko1> chair> shift a
<_ko1> chair bot: unknown command: shift a
<_ko1> chair> shift
<_ko1> chair bot: []
<_ko1> chair> unshift matz
<_ko1> chair bot: ["matz"]
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["matz", "_ko1"]
<_ko1> chair> clear
<_ko1> chair bot: cleared
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<judofyr> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1", "judofyr"]
<_ko1> end
<_ko1> chair bot: Next speaker: judofyr (and [])
<judofyr> end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<_ko1> xyzzy; end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<_ko1> send
<_ko1> hehe
<judofyr> _ko1: just let me know if I should do/say something if you need help debugging it :P
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<_ko1> thanks
<_ko1> !
<_ko1> chair bot: ["_ko1"]
<_ko1> chair> clear
<_ko1> chair bot: cleared
<injekt> :D
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<_ko1> we need joke feature for chair
<_ko1> :)
<judofyr> _ko1: also, I've been wondering: is there anything we English-speaking Rubyists could do to help/improve the communication between the Japanese and ruby-core? or maybe it isn't such a big problem?
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<_ko1> big problem for me :(
<_ko1> If I can ask english phrase here, it helps me :)
<judofyr> _ko1: sure. I'll try to help! :)
<_ko1> thanks.
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<judofyr> _ko1: you could also send to judofyr@gmail.com, but I guess it's easier on IRC
<injekt> Yeah there's a few native english speakers in here, I'm sure they'll all be happy to help _ko1 :)
<judofyr> my Ruby is more native than English unfortunately
<injekt> heh
<judofyr> I always ask telemachus when I need help with my grammar
<_ko1> good to hear :)
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<drbrain_> _ko1: nice!
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<_ko1> drbrain: chair bot is my hobby. i think we need practice to use it in meeting.
<drbrain> _ko1: sure
<_ko1> simple src
<drbrain> _ko1: oh, what do you think I should do for cmake failures when g++ is missing?
<_ko1> drbrain: simple skip is desired.
<_ko1> the message shows "unknown (or unhandled?) error"
<_ko1> or you can say "it is spec"
<_ko1> I already install g++ :)
<drbrain> ok
<drbrain> I was doing training and was too tired to investigate ☹
<_ko1> :)
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<drbrain_> how do I show the difference between a flip-flop with .. and ...?
<drbrain_> I see in the compiler that they emit different bytecode, but I can't make an example that works
<drbrain_> or, shows a difference
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<drbrain> ah, got it
<drbrain> 0.upto 5 do |value| puts value if value==2..value==2 end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
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<drbrain> heh
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<drbrain> seems odd: ruby20 -e 'BEGIN { p :a; BEGIN { p :b } }'
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<_ko1> drbrain: nobu is expert
<_ko1> about flipflop
<drbrain> _ko1: I figured it out
<_ko1> ah, cool
<drbrain> compare:
<drbrain> 0.upto 5 do |value| puts value if value==2..value==2 end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<drbrain> 0.upto 5 do |value| puts value if value==2...value==2 end
<_ko1> chair bot: No more speakers
<drbrain> with .., both sides are evaluated on the same iteration
<_ko1> chair> show
<_ko1> chair bot: []
<_ko1> I limited chair to this channel