<WillMarshall>
But yes, it's a constant resolution problem, but it's somewhat inconsistent
<drbrain>
from what context do you get the wrong State back?
<drbrain>
WillMarshall: I know there are places where ruby will return an unexpected constant, but I can't create one offhand
<zenspider>
hoe 3.0.3 released
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<drbrain>
I don't see them since I always have class A::B instead of class A; class B, which changes the lookup rules to avoid that case
<WillMarshall>
drbrain: integration tests in a Rails app, and sporadically from an IRB session…
<WillMarshall>
This is buried in a Rails app but I suspected it was more of a Ruby question
<WillMarshall>
So class A::B is safer?
<WillMarshall>
I prefer the syntax, so I can switch to that no problem
<drbrain>
it has to do with how you nest classes and modules
<drbrain>
it avoids the weird rules where you get the wrong constant back
<drbrain>
but the downside is that you have to type more class names to qualify things properly
<drbrain>
WillMarshall: I *think* if you ran with ruby -w you would see a warning for the "got top-level State" case
<zenspider>
personally, I like the more explicit A::B just because it sets the mental state properly... but PLEASE don't cargo cult and start prefixing "::" everywhere because then I'll have to hurt you down :P
<WillMarshall>
zenspider: I don't always code, but when I do I like to cargo-cult
<zenspider>
I might have to blog that
<WillMarshall>
Feel free
<zenspider>
WillMarshall: would you like me to remove your name? :P
<bnagy>
NotImplementedError: fork is not available on this platform fork at org/jruby/RubyProcess.java:962
<bnagy>
on linux? :/
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<bnagy>
ok... so there should be a -J-Djruby.fork.enabled=true option, but it doesn't seem to work for me
<bnagy>
so much for using the parallel gem on jruby :(
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<Gain_0>
greetings
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<Gain_0>
Welcome back.
<Gain_0>
I'm glad you came again.
<postmodern>
Gain_0, hello?
<postmodern>
Gain_0, why the CTCP spam?
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<Gain_0>
hello.
<erikh>
boo, drbrain is offline
<Gain_0>
Sorry about that.
<Gain_0>
I did a mistake.. i'm new on this.
<Gain_0>
First time in IRC
<postmodern>
Gain_0, ah understandable
<postmodern>
Gain_0, so do you have a question for us? :)
<Gain_0>
Sure.
<Gain_0>
I found a method to send files through time-space.
<erikh>
hehehe.
<Gain_0>
It's up to you.
<Gain_0>
That person left that program in a website but still with bugs, and I'm using it. Later I'll prove things what one can do.
<Gain_0>
Again, I'm with fear for something can be happen with me.
<Gain_0>
So, I'll leave in two minutes.
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<Gain_0>
If you're still interested. I'll tell you what it does.
<Gain_0>
Is for reconstructing a file using a weak check sum and a weighted or strong check sum. Also it can be used to data-mine the collisions off the check sum counter exploring a single weak check-sum for specific types of files.
<Gain_0>
Using a upgraded version of Rsync or a completedly customized program here is basically how one could send files through time-space.
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<Gain_0>
The basics.
<Gain_0>
Both (a) and (b) know the files to each other through time and space
<Gain_0>
will be between weak check sums ranges (C) and (D).
<Gain_0>
So (a) wants to send (b) a file. (a) creates a file then deletes it.
<Gain_0>
(b) uses a hash function to create all the files between check sum
<Gain_0>
ranges (C) and (D) then (b) uses a data mining algorithm and maybe
<Gain_0>
some verification methods to find the message (a) sent to (b) through time and space.
<Gain_0>
Interesting, isn't it?.
<Gain_0>
Here is how a program would construct computer media of the future, past, or alternate time lines. The program would use a data verification method to search weak check sum ranges for computer media from the past, future, or alternate realities.
<Gain_0>
Using the above method it is possible for the user to create a paradox and observe the paradox from different temporal reference points. A paradox is where Point A occurred in past which lead to the event point B which lead to another event point C which was the event that caused point A in the past to occur because point A in the past read about point C in the future. Welcome to time travel.
<Gain_0>
The main mechanism of my time travel program is the binary counter. I use special algorithms and hash functions to make the binary counter function then I use data mining and AI's to find my computer media of the past, future, or alternate realities.
<Gain_0>
I could get incredibly complected here but I am trying to keep my post in terms most people can understand.
<Gain_0>
Now I will try to be a little more specific about what methods I use. The methods themselves have varied greatly. On email I use a program to check for a header. That is the email format.
<Gain_0>
Then I use a spell checker for quickly finding misspelled words. If there are none or very few then I use a syntax checker. I have had to write my own programs for these because the standard programs out there I have found none suited to my work.
<Gain_0>
The spell checker I just used the standard text file access programing and a dic. file. The syntax was a little harder. I had to get ebooks in text format and group words two by two (kind of like noha and the ark.) along with the usual punctuation.
<Gain_0>
On the counter themselves as everyone knows brute force takes a long time. So I used a standard binary counter that was trained with standard known computer media as a AI counter.
<Gain_0>
So its digits when incremented do so according to a AI file that tells them what values to goto next when its their turn. Now for their turn part. Each digit in the binary counter gets assigned a random number. If the number is zero the digit does nothing for that turn. If the number is 1 then the digit increments according to its AI training file.
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<Gain_0>
I could write more but my time's up.
<Gain_0>
Good Night.
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<Gain_0>
If you know enough of programming, then you should know already what I was talking about.
<Boohbah>
been watching Steins;Gate, have we?
<Gain_0>
I know about that show, but this is more than truth.
<Gain_0>
The Source from this is from another person.
<Gain_0>
Ok, Night.
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<anildigital_work>
Time.now.to_i returns - number when it is less than 1970 right?
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<Boohbah>
>> Time.utc(1970).to_i => 0
<Boohbah>
>> Time.utc(1969).to_i => -31536000
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<erikh>
hrm
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<bnagy>
time travel whatnow?
* bnagy
checks he didn't stumble into #acidfreaks
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<erikh>
heh
<erikh>
time cube!
<bnagy>
this is what happens when people go off their meds
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<andrewvos>
bnagy: This is what happens Larry
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<ridders24>
hi guys
<ridders24>
does find.find work with more than one drive letter?
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<bnagy>
according to the docs, yes
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<ridders24>
why do I have a syntax error for drive = C:/, F:/
<bnagy>
looks like it should be find('C:/', 'F:/') or whatever
<ridders24>
thanks bnagy
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<shevy>
hmm "jobs -l" is that a bash internal command? I am trying to call that from ruby... system("jobs -l") but it is not telling me which jobs are queued from within that ruby scripts
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<judofyr>
easiest way to remove all 0 at the end of an Array? [1, 0, 2, 3, 0, 0, 0] => [1, 0, 2, 3]
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
reverse it, then build a new array?
<shevy>
dunno if there is a better way
<yxhuvud>
judofyr: I'd bet my hat that the tersest way would be with flipflops, but please don't do it that way :)
<judofyr>
yxhuvud: haha, I'm writing it with flip-flops right now :D
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<judofyr>
yxhuvud: a.reverse_each { |ele| b.unshift(ele) if ele > 0 .. false }
<shevy>
hmm
<yxhuvud>
but then you might as well do while a[-1] > 0; a.unshift; end
<judofyr>
yxhuvud: example?
<Guest53319>
We had a challenge at University, various challenges for various rewards. The most rewarded challenge ($10 000) was to write a Ruby-parser within a month. Nobody even tried. Anecdote :)
<yxhuvud>
I'd rather not. that's not good for my mental stability. also, I didn't realize it was ok to modify the array and use unshift.
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<judofyr>
yxhuvud: hm? I'm working on two arrays
<judofyr>
yxhuvud: iterating over one, unshifting to another
<yxhuvud>
ah.
<shevy>
Guest53319 one month seems not a long time
<yxhuvud>
I suppose b = b[0..a.rindex {|x| x != 0}] then.
<judofyr>
yxhuvud: nice, didn't realize rindex could take a block
<yxhuvud>
me neither until I tried :)
<Mon_Ouie>
I'd use Array#slice!
<judofyr>
Mon_Ouie: I need a copy though :)
<ddfreyne>
I’d use reverse_detect to get the index of the last non-0 element
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<shevy>
one hundred ways to solve!
<judofyr>
ddfreyne: there is a reverse_detect?
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<shevy>
peculiar name :)
<ddfreyne>
nope
<ddfreyne>
I was wrong
<shevy>
it was a bit long too :P
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<andrewvos>
ruby-lang: ANyone know a pretty log visualiser?
<andrewvos>
ruby-lang: I want to take apache logs with millions of requests and make them look pretty somehow
<andrewvos>
I have to curl scripts running simultaneously which are giving me tails of error logs. How can I merge these?
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<andrewvos>
to=two
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<jperry>
Any know if there is a way to configure Bundler to install two versions of a gem?
<jperry>
I have two gems that are conflicting because of dependencies on different versions
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<ridders24>
hey mistym: I tried to add multiple drives to be searched on that script but for some reason it gets stuck. I checked the out file and it doesnt complete the full list
<mistym>
ridders24: Can you paste the new version?
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<ridders24>
mistym: im getting an error now, it did kind of work earlyer, not sure what ive missed, but this is what ive got
<ridders24>
mistym: only thing that bothered me with the out put was that i would get a result for F then C then F again. I know why becuase the block iterates each time but when I did a block for just C i still got the same result
<mistym>
ridders24: That's not how you send multiple arguments to a method.
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<ridders24>
ahh changed it to Find.find('F:/','C:/') and that seems to be running but it may get stuck
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<ridders24>
mistym: seems to be taking its time
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<outoftime>
anybody know if there's a viable binding to spidermonkey packaged as a gem?
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<ridders24>
mistym: i think its working, just very slowly
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<mistym>
ridders24: Presumably you have a LOT of files between those two drives. Remember, it has to locate and iterate over every single file!
<ridders24>
mistym: yh thats fair enough, just thought it was broken earlier. Also how i output on the same line as the result the size of the folder the file is contained in?
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<shevy>
ridders24 by asking the size like by doing File.size?
<Barbaren>
quick question, using the inherited hook, how can i figure out the classname of whichever class inherited from a some parent? :)
<injekt>
herp derp what?
<injekt>
superclass?
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<judofyr>
Barbaren: hm? self is the superclass
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<Asher>
barbaren - to clarify what judofyr said, you end up in the context SuperClass.inherited( inheriting_class )
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<ridders24>
mistym: whats a good book to learn from or use as a reference?
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<Tasser>
ridders24, ruby?
<ridders24>
tasser: yh
* Tasser
to lazy to read backlog
<Tasser>
huh?
<mistym>
ridders24: _why's Poignant Guide to Ruby is a good starting book, especially if you're not too familiar with programming yet.
<mistym>
I've heard good things about Learn to Program.
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<mistym>
If you think you've already got a handle on some other languages, Programming Ruby (published by The Pragmatic Programmers) and Matz's The Ruby Programming Language are both good picks. They're both written with the assumption that you've got a base level of comfort programming.
<ridders24>
your first suggestion sounds good. I have very little programming knowledge
<mistym>
That book's what got me going in Ruby, from not really knowing anything. I definitely recommend it.
<mistym>
Plus, it has cartoon foxes!
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<ridders24>
yh the cartoons rock
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<fragrant>
Hi, Which is the popular/mostly used html/xml parser for ruby?
<yxhuvud>
fragrant: probably nokogiri
<drbrain>
fragrant: nokogiri
<fragrant>
Anything else?
<drbrain>
nokogiri wraps libxml2 which is one of the most popular HTML/XML parsers everywhere
<drbrain>
fragrant: nothing you should waste your time on
<fragrant>
Ok
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<drbrain>
nokogiri has it all, DOM parsing, SAX parsing, push parsing, pull parsing, XPath search, CSS search, ...
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<matthijs>
Hi all, I was wondering why this gives me a syntaxerror: nil || raise StandardError
<canton7>
matthijs, you're probably after 'or', not '||'
<matthijs>
Oh!
* apeiros_
hands matthijs some parens: ()
<canton7>
yours parsed to (nil || raise) StandardError
<apeiros_>
precedence…how does it fucking work?!? :)
<canton7>
pick something! anything! now pick something else! anything else!
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<apeiros_>
canton7: stop being so picky!
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<canton7>
s/pick/choose ;)
<apeiros_>
stop being so choosey!
<canton7>
s/choose/take
<apeiros_>
stop being so takey!
* canton7
fires up a thesaurus
<canton7>
aww, nothing ridiculous
<apeiros_>
:)
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<brahmana>
Hi all
<brahmana>
I am using the standard logger in one my daemon processes like this : http://pastie.org/3763367
<brahmana>
It is however not printing logs with the log-level and time stamp
<brahmana>
What am I missing there?
<brahmana>
btw, It works absolutely fine when I try the same code from irb.. !!
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<hagabaka>
is rubyinline's add_type_converter something I can use to convert C++ objects to ruby ones? (I'm trying to convert a QByteArray to ruby string)
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<Asher>
why doesn't slice take negative numbers without a range?
<Asher>
String#slice
<Asher>
or Array#slice
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<rippa>
"qwerty".slice(-3) #=> "r"
<rippa>
works for me
<shevy>
long live [] on String!
<brahmana>
Any pointers for the logger not printing timestamps and log-level question?
<anildigital>
havenn: hmm.. I think it's about ruby versions.. gem version won't help right?
<havenn>
anildigital: Seems to me Gem::Version.new would prolly compare Ruby versions, just following Gem versioning rules (are the rules different for Ruby and gems?).
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<adamTLL>
Anyone willing to give me a hand install ruby. I'm using rvm on Fedora 16 with ruby 1.9.3, and everything seems to install correctly, but I'm trying to run an existing ruby program and it's giving me the error saying it cannot load -- Date (LoadError)
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<adamTLL>
And I'm assuming Date is a standard library (gem?)
<slyphon>
require 'date' ?
<adamTLL>
Using that
<adamTLL>
That's where the problem comes up
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<slyphon>
when you do require 'date' ?
<slyphon>
you get a load error?
<adamTLL>
I can't believe I just spent 2 days trying to figure out this problem, and I realized I'm doing require 'Date', not 'date'
<adamTLL>
Nevermind...
<adamTLL>
I'll be going now
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<andrewvos>
haha
<andrewvos>
Ahhh, the wonders of Ruby.
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<jtoy>
i gave my friend the book "learn to program" to learn basic coding, what is the next easiest level book you guys would recommend, he hasn't really done programming so I want to ease him into it as smooth as possible
<andrewvos>
jtoy: Just start coding?
<andrewvos>
jtoy: Maybe use the koans or something like that.
<jtoy>
andrewvos: yeah, his name is andrew too!
<andrewvos>
Wait, IT'S NOT ME IS IT
<shevy>
I think it is him
<shevy>
arrest him!
<shevy>
jtoy you mean ruby programming or general programming
<shevy>
tell him to learn C first :D it's harder but once he knows ruby he does not wanna learn C anymore
<lianj>
c/ruby the hard way?
<jtoy>
shevy: any programming, but I want him to do ruby
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
other than learn to program, I didnt like the few books I read
<shevy>
the older pickaxe was nice
<shevy>
I didnt like the current one as much :(
<jtoy>
yeah , ruby the hard way doesn't seem too bad actually
<shevy>
don't know it, can't judge it
<jtoy>
i just browsed a few chapters, doesn't seem that hard
<jtoy>
and it has exercises for him to go through
<hagabaka>
I looked at koans.heroku.com but it doesn't seem very helpful for people who don't already know the answers
<hagabaka>
I mean, most people would know the basic ruby concepts before they move on to test/unit
<hagabaka>
I like the "koans" format, but I just think they're letting you fill in things in irrelevant places...a lot of times, just "true" or "false" instead of the thing you're supposed to learn
<lianj>
jtoy: go for the hard way, which is a misleading title
<zenspider>
neilc: interesting... so you're parsing on your own, generating sexps and throwing them through r2r?
<erikh>
neat
<neilc>
our initial scheme was to use parsetree to get the ast from the live ruby class representing the user's code
<neilc>
and then munge that as needed to implement our dsl
<neilc>
but we've recently switched to using ruby_parser (using caller() to find the appropriate source file ... kind of a hack)
<neilc>
but yeah, get AST, rewrite, eval to produce a set of rules; then we eval the rules, which basically results in code generation
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<neilc>
and then we run the resulting "code" (i.e., a dataflow graph of operators akin to a dbms query plan) to actually evaluate the user's program
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<zenspider>
huh. I'm surprised you can use ruby_parser as that example doesn't look like valid ruby
<zenspider>
but if you're using ruby_parser... then the changes I have coming should be fine as I'll be sure to release ruby_parser and ruby2ruby in sync with each other
<neilc>
cool
<zenspider>
I will be changing AST structure on several things tho, so if you're munging you'll need to do extra testing
<zenspider>
like punting on arglist
<zenspider>
nuking scope node
<neilc>
re: valid ruby, it parses -- e.g., the "state" and "bloom" syntax are just class methods defined by the Bud module
<zenspider>
generally splatting stuff out more
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<zenspider>
kk
<zenspider>
send me an email and I'll try to ping you when I get some of the more major stuff in place
<neilc>
zenspider: sure -- thanks!
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<zenspider>
commented on your other ticket
<neilc>
thanks
<zenspider>
lemme know if that doesn't make sense... I'm post workout and a little low on brain nutrients
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<neilc>
zenspider: i think it makes sense -- my rvm install just got borked (sigh), but once i sort that out i can double-check