ChanServ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 1.9.3-p125: http://ruby-lang.org | Paste >3 lines of text on http://pastie.org or use a gist
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<erikh> zzak: haha. I know right?
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<zzak> will that work?
<erikh> eh, maybe?
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<zzak> im not really sure how that works
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<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> is there a way to define a method similar to the way haskell does it without using if statements? like def foo([]); []; end; def foo([x]); x; end;
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<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> something in that vein of thought
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<ryanf> no
<Croms> \xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE: You mean pattern matching? Not as far as I know. If you redefine a method you override the previous one.
<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> Croms: yes pattern matching, whenever i google pattern matching ruby i just get blogs on how to do regex
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<Croms> \xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE: Ruby has the concept of the underscore for unused variables, but I think pattern matching really is specific to ML-like languages.
<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> Croms: ok thanks
<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> i just realized today that head, *tail = %w{some list of things} is a cool trick
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<\xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE> i guess case statements work well enough, i just implemented quicksort using it
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<apeiros_> \xDE\xAD\xC0\xDE: I guess since you're not looking for performance, this isn't very relevant…
<apeiros_> but you can do the two selects in one go using partition
<apeiros_> smaller, bigger = xs.select{|e| e < x }
<apeiros_> meh
<apeiros_> smaller, bigger = xs.partition { |e| e < x }
<apeiros_> forgot to actually replace the select :)
* apeiros_ off
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<mars777> Does anybody know how to use the getoptLong class to work with the unix command line?
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<drbrain> mars777: ??
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<mars777> drbrain
<mars777> you there?
<drbrain> mars777: yes
<drbrain> mars777: your question did not make much sense
<mars777> Why is that?
<drbrain> getoptlong parses ARGV, the command line is accessed via system
<mars777> It won't allow you to work with the command line?
<drbrain> what do you mean by "work with"
<drbrain> if you want to parse arguments from ARGV, avoid getoptlong
<drbrain> use OptionParser or some other library that's not a near straight port of the C function
<mars777> I see. However is there a way with getopslong to send a command to unix ?
<drbrain> no
<drbrain> what do you mean by "work with the command line"
<mars777> issue a command
<mars777> ps aux
<drbrain> output = `ps aux`
<drbrain> if you don't care about the output, system 'ps aux'
<drbrain> see Kernel#` and Kernel#system for full details
<drbrain> there's also IO::pipe and Process::spawn
<mars777> I did but I still kinda don't understand
<drbrain> mars777: do you have irb?
<mars777> yes
<drbrain> did you try it in irb?
<mars777> yea
<mars777> nothing happend
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<drbrain> I find that hard to believe: http://paste.segment7.net/abj.html
<drbrain> even if you typo'd, something happened
<mars777> let me tr it
<mars777> again
<mars777> Dr brain
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<mars777> i got a no such file or directory
<mars777> error
<drbrain> please show the whole output
<mars777> ok
<drbrain> you can use gist.github.com for long output
<mars777> oh wait i know whats wrong
<mars777> just a sec
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<mars777> yea t works
<mars777> yea it works
<drbrain> excellent
<mars777> Do you know how to work with Collectd?
<mars777> May I share a script with you in gist, I need help with?
<mars777> It pertains to the Getopslong question
<mars777> ?
<drbrain> I haven't worked with collectd, but I can take a look
<mars777> its ok let me share my work thus far
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<Zopsi> If I have an instance variable and want to pass it to a function that requires it be in double quotes... how would I do that?
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<seanstickle> Zopsi: present example
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<Zopsi> seanstickle: Forgive me if I am wrong, but I want to pass this to @phone1 = Call.new(params[:callee]) a function dial("@phone1","SIP/trunk/@phone1"). First time using ruby.
<seanstickle> That is quite confusing. Can you post code to pastie.org or point to an example?
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<Zopsi> seanstickle: I guess to simplify this a bit I could add that I just want to know if the ruby compiler parses instance variables inside double quotes.
<seanstickle> I have no idea what expect of the double quotes
<seanstickle> what *you* expect of the double quotes
<seanstickle> It's just a string
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<charliesome> who here is subscribed to the ruby-core list?
<charliesome> if anyone is… how did you subscribe? I've tried about 3 times but it never sends me any emails
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<rubyhacker1> wow, wtf
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<imperator> hell if i know what's going on there
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<foucist> puts ["Folks!","Morning","Good"].reverse.join(" ")
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<seanstickle> haloa
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<imperator> hm, should i kick all the guest accounts?
<seanstickle> Just to be mean?
<imperator> something weird going on
<imperator> they seem to be the result of a nick being released that was being used by someone else
<imperator> i'll just kick, not ban, see what happens
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<imperator> huh, i didn't do that
<imperator> and....i still show zzak in the channel
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<seanstickle> zzak was playing a little joke
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<foucist> imperator: there's a channel mode that will prevent guest accounts in here i htink.. it's probably +C like in #rubyonrails
<foucist> i'd double check the freenode site though
<imperator> foucist, might be a good idea
<dominikh> zzak: haha
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<zzak> lol
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<seydar> how do i fake IO?
<canton7> StringIO?
<seydar> I'm trying to recreate /dev/null
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<seydar> canton7: welp that's easy
<seydar> thank you
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<seydar> i really should've googled for ruby dev null instead of ruby fake io
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<seydar> canton7: gah, it doesn't work. i can't reopen pipes with it
<canton7> ah
<seydar> i need to be able to do r, w = IO.pipe; r.reopen DevNull.new
<seydar> do oyu know anything about faking IO such that it can be used to reopen things?
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<seydar> i wonder if i could use network sockets
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<seydar> Mon_Ouie: ping
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<seydar> Mon_Ouie: aussi es-tu vraiment francais?
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<seydar> hey, can someone take a look at an email announcement for me?
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<seydar> i'd just like someone to review it and see if it makes any sense or is missing anything
<dominikh> am I allowed to point out typos and grammar mistakes? :P
<seydar> dominikh: always
<dominikh> s/Hai/Hi/
<dominikh> j/k
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<seydar> now you have to read and review it
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<dominikh> would have anyway :P
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<seydar> also, i value puns to add more than any corrections
<seydar> so if you think of a good pun or a really bad joke, i'll put it in
<dominikh> is arithmatic a pun or just wrong spelling then :P
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<seydar> oh wait that's just wrong spelling
<seydar> is there a spellchecker for vim?
<seydar> dumb question, of course there is
<dominikh> :> well, I've got nothing to say about the contents, really
<seydar> is the purpose of chitin clear?
<dominikh> other than "oh god, why" :P
<rue> seydar: It seems good
<rue> Also :set spell spelllang=en-US or something like that
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<dominikh> seydar: out of curiosity, does it have to be hg.commit :m => '...' or would hg.commit m: '...' work as well?
<dominikh> chitin-wise
<seydar> dominikh: it's all valid ruby code, so if it's valid ruby it will work
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<dominikh> ok
<seydar> i tried to make that clear in the announcement, but evidently it's not clear enough
<dominikh> nah, I just have a horrible attention span this time of the day :P
<seydar> dominikh: i'm going to make the first release name "oh god why"
<dominikh> and you opting for the way more annoying to type syntax confused me
<dominikh> haha
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<seydar> lies. i use the less annoying way
<seydar> i use the way that produces pretty colors
<seydar> oh wait, now that we got some brains in here
<seydar> how can i recreate /dev/null with ruby IO?
<seydar> interesting. everyone has gone silent.
<dominikh> why don't you just use the real /dev/null?
<chris2> File.mknod ?
<seydar> dominikh: because i'm trying to be platform independent
<seydar> chris2: looking that up right now...
<seydar> chris2: is it cross platform?
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<chris2> works on every unix ;)
<seydar> slash i don't even see this method in the docs
<chris2> hm,i dont have it
<chris2> fileutils.rb checks for it :P
<seydar> herp derp
<seydar> one time i herped so hard i derped
<zzak> File::NULL is portable
<seydar> zzak: well that's convenient. thank you
<zzak> np
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<drbrain> seydar: IO::NULL
<seydar> sweet, thank you guys
<seydar> Mon_Ouie: ping
<Mon_Ouie> 'alut
<banisterfiend> Mon_Ouie: 'alut :P
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<seydar> Mon_Ouie: so i gots another question about coolline
<seydar> in the #reset_line method, it erases the entire line so that it can be reprinted with the changes. this is good because it allows for the transform_line proc
<seydar> however, i'm using it to read input for a shell
<seydar> which means that if the previous program's output has no trailing newline
<seydar> the output on that line will be erased
<Mon_Ouie> Ah, I see what you mean
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<Mon_Ouie> I think not starting to print at the beginning of the line would be problematic though (when computing column number, etc.)
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<seydar> i changed it momentarily to simply not have the initial #reset_line
<seydar> but that only alleviated some of the pain
<seydar> the ideal solution would be one where #reset_line only resets the visible characters
<seydar> but i couldn't make it work effectively
<Mon_Ouie> Ideally, I guess it would add a new-line automatically
<seydar> i thought i'd bring it up with you since you are more knowledgeable than i
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<seydar> i agree, if i could tell when there wasn't a newline present, then i would just add it
<seydar> but i don't know how to read the last character that was printed to STDOUT without duplicating streams (and i don't even know how to duplicate streams sent to a process)
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<Mon_Ouie> I don't think you can read what was written to stdout. You might be able to get the current column number, although I don't know how
<seydar> oooh, now there's a thought
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<Mon_Ouie> ncurses can do that, so there must be a way — it's probably much more terminal dependant than what's already in Coolline though
<FreeFull> I have @messages[method] = 0 if @messages[method] = nil where @messages is a Hash, but the following line @messages[method] += 1 still gives me undefined method `+' for nil:NilClass
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<Mon_Ouie> FreeFull: You used "=" instead of "=="
<FreeFull> Oh
<FreeFull> >.< stupid mistake
<Mon_Ouie> You could also use a hash with a default value: Hash.new(0)
<FreeFull> I tried Hash.new(0) first but it didn't work because I forgot @ for @messages, and then I changed things around trying to figure out why it didn't work =P
<seydar> Mon_Ouie: io/console can do that too, right?
<FreeFull> Thanks, that worked
<seydar> Mon_Ouie: coolline already uses io/console so it should be good
<Mon_Ouie> Can it? I'm not so sure
<Mon_Ouie> I know it can get terminal size
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<seydar> i think i'll settle for ncurses
<seydar> though i worry about bloat
<seydar> Mon_Ouie: what's the standard ncurses lib nowadays? https://github.com/eclubb/ncurses-ruby ?
<Mon_Ouie> No idea
<Mon_Ouie> If you got time, a nice project would be a more ruby-ish wrapper around ncurses. I don't think I've ever seen one.
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<seydar> if i had the brains i would
<seydar> i keep track of projects with ncurses
<seydar> and investigate whether they wrote their own cool api
<seydar> one project did
<seydar> looking through my bookmarks now
<drbrain> Mon_Ouie: class MyWindow < Curses::Window is the way to go
<seydar> don't pretend like it's a fun interface to use
<seydar> Mon_Ouie, drbrain: https://github.com/grosser/ruco
<seydar> maybe i'm just being whiny and scared
<Mon_Ouie> How can I try that curses interface btw?
<Mon_Ouie> It's a separate gem?
<seydar> Mon_Ouie: you'd have to pick it apart out of the code.
<drbrain> Mon_Ouie: an unreleased gem, since it requires ruby 2.0
<seydar> ruco is simply someone's project, and in it he wrote some nice bindings
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<Mon_Ouie> seydar: I was talking about rdoc-browser ;)
<seydar> ah, whoops. i'm a nerd
<drbrain> if you have ruby 2.0 you can ruby -Ilib bin/rib
<drbrain> after checking it out, of course
<drbrain> there's bugs, I haven't worked on it since the 1.9.3 release
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<whitequark> does anyone ever use trust/taint in ruby?
<whitequark> that seems completely ad-hoc, not really reliable (all it takes is one missed OBJ_INFECT in MRI), and I've yet to hear about someone actually using it
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<whitequark> two CVEs exist for those
<apeiros_> I thought it was being deprecated
<whitequark> in fact ruby-core folks say $SAFE is better removed: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/1887006#1004090
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<seydar> anyone familiar with ruby-llvm?
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<whitequark> seydar: what's your question?
<seydar> whitequark: I keep getting "`write_array_of_pointer': value is not a pointer (ArgumentError)" when trying to do BB#call and a bunch of LLVM::Floats
<seydar> i tried doing #to_ptr on the floats to no avail
<whitequark> sorry, no idea
<seydar> and i have another question on why a function would fail to verify when its dumped output looks totally fine
<drbrain> seydar: looks != is
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<seydar> drbrain: right, which is why i was wondering if anyone knew any reasons why a function would fail to verify
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