<rking>
MarcWeber: No 'do' when you do the for that way
<rking>
MarcWeber: But I'd not use that form anyway.
<MarcWeber>
rking: Which style would you recommend?
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<rking>
(2..tds.length-1).each do |i|
<MarcWeber>
rking: for i in 1..10 do; puts i; end
<rking>
Not a huge difference, but I think the leading-for is a bit unpopular
<MarcWeber>
is fine ..
<MarcWeber>
Its littel bit shorter
<rking>
no, that 'do' is wrong
<rking>
for i in 1..10
<rking>
No 'do'
<MarcWeber>
rking: So why does for i in 1..10 do; puts i; end do what I expect even though I'm wrong?
<rking>
MarcWeber: You're right, it is a little shorter. I might start using it even if it's less common. ☺
<rking>
MarcWeber: Oh, it's optional it seems.
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<rking>
MarcWeber: So maybe that's not your problem
<Servidorv>
hey guys if i have and array and i ned to delete one of the keys and value
<Servidorv>
??
<MarcWeber>
no. because using ..3 works.
<Servidorv>
what will be the best way to do it??
<rking>
MarcWeber: OK, now that I actually read line 78, it's clear
<rking>
headers[2] is neither String nor Array
<rking>
Would be better worded like: raise "Unexpected class for headers[#{i}]: #{h.class}"
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<MarcWeber>
rking: sorry, I haveto find out why the first line telling me that the error occurs at line 80 is joined with the last puts line..
<micsha>
curly braces are *always* used for hashes, right?
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<rking>
MarcWeber: Huh? The thing you pasted before said: import.rb:78:in `block in initialize': unexpected (RuntimeError)
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<MarcWeber>
micsha: m = Hash.new; m["ab"] is a second way
<rking>
That doesn't have to do with the `for 1 in 2…` nor line 80
<rking>
micsha: I don't get your question. Curlies are also used for blocks.
<MarcWeber>
rking: You're right. It just happens that my editor only showed line 70 first missing the point of failer line 80. That was missed because the error was written within a stdout line - thus it didn't start on a new line.
<MarcWeber>
STDOUT.sync = true makes vim point to the the raise "unexpected" line - so I'm not going to fail again.
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<Ryan>
hi
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<seoaqua>
never mind
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<Guest26743>
i'm trying to find a good pattern/solution to a problem you'll see here: http://pastie.org/5131089 where there might be classes A-G and the attribute list might be 5 attributes long. i don't like this solution because the the A-B classes have too much unnecessary knowledge of ReceivingClass and its more of a helper method. I do want to avoid any checks for the class though and keep things as simple as possible. any ideas?
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<ryanf>
it would be much easier to answer your question if I could tell what it's supposed to be doing
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<ryanf>
do you have a version with actual code instead of fake code?
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<RyanV>
its complicated and in rails
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<ryanf>
I think I get it now after reading it a couple more times
<ryanf>
I don't really know what you mean by "the attribute list might be 5 attributes long" though
<ryanf>
specifically, I don't know which ways you're trying to make this general vs specific
<RyanV>
basically, information is passed to a rails controller which creates an instance of class A, or of Class B, depending on the information passed. using that object, i need to create a new object using some of those attribute values
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<RyanV>
so ReceivingClass always has the same attributes, say :message, :title, :caption. the attributes for ReceivingClass need to be populated using the values from other classes, but each of those other classes have different accessors
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<ryanf>
so for each class you need to define a mapping from accessor name to receivingclass name
<ryanf>
I dunno how you can avoid those classes knowing the names of the receiving attributes
<ryanf>
unless you did it positionally, but that's way worse
<RyanV>
so in that example, each class defined a method called 'populate', which did the attribute transfer so that no matter what class it ended up being, i could just call 'populate' on it passing in the ReceivingClass instance
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<ryanf>
yeah but what I mean is
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<ryanf>
I don't see how the A/B classes could have any less knowledge and have it actually work
<ryanf>
because the only knowledge they have in your example is the name of the setter, and they need to know that no matter what
<RyanV>
possibly an adapter module or something. i'm not sure where the mapping belongs, because i feel like it doesn't really belong in any of the classes
<ryanf>
you could pull it out into separate objects if you feel like doing some Architecture, but the knowledge has to exist somewhere
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<ryanf>
and it has to exist in N places where N is the number of a/b/c/d/etc classes
<ryanf>
so it's not very important whether it happens to be in those classes or in some other objects
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<ryanf>
imo
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<RyanV>
yeah, other than having them all in a single place at least might clean up the code so the similar functionality isn't across 5 different classes
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<ryanf>
you could do something like put a method on receivingclass that takes a hash
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<ryanf>
and then pass a hash in from each of the #populate methods
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<ryanf>
but I'm not sure that's really any better
<RyanV>
i might make a module with submodules, then call the module methods from the class A-B, so that at least the logic is all in one place
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<RyanV>
so populate becomes def populate() SomeModule::NameOfClass.populate end
<kalleth>
its highlighting the current cursor line
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<shevy>
lol
<darthdeus>
look at the difference between the colors
<Hanmac>
darthdeus maybe because you use mac?
<shevy>
yeah
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<shevy>
the program is too stupid to colourize "end" the same
<darthdeus>
the config for yellow is F0C674, which is correct in terminal, but in MacVim, it is FDFF00, which is a completely different color
<kalleth>
because...mac
<shevy>
time to use a better editor
<kalleth>
try #vim or try a different scheme
<kalleth>
oooh, shevy
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<kalleth>
YOU DID NOT JUST GO THERE
<shevy>
look at the "end"
<shevy>
the program is too dumb to figure out when to colourize it and when not
<Hanmac>
shevy it seems that both images are colored wrong :P
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<shevy>
yeah, this is a horrible program
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<shevy>
he should just switch to textmate already
<shevy>
or emacs
<shevy>
:>
<kalleth>
i prefer emacs to textmate
<kalleth>
honestly
<kalleth>
anything modal
<noxoc>
vim ftw
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<kalleth>
BUT BUT BUT BUT GUI = PROGRESS
<shevy>
it really is
<shevy>
less need to memorize
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<shevy>
vim forces users to become a cyborg - the commands must be wired into the brain or else they will forever suck at using it
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<noxoc>
shevy: well but it's really easy to get the commands into the brain since they have a strucutre
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<noxoc>
unlike emacs/texmates key bindings
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<noxoc>
I really wonder why people do not like the command mode, but have no problem memorizing a quadrillion of hotkeys that are not only hard to press, but even harder to memorize.
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<JonnieCache>
because each vim commands you have to commit 4 or five movements to muscle memory. hotkeys are just one.
<JonnieCache>
imagine if the piano had been designed by vim hackers. music would suck.
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<noxoc>
JonnieCache: no it wouldn't. It would be highly efficient and a song would be inside of a macro.
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<JonnieCache>
so youre saying all music would sound like the demo track on a casio keyboard circa 1991
<Xeago>
this conversation, hilarious
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<Xeago>
why don't we go back to ed/sed
<noxoc>
JonnieCache: nope. This assumes that musicians don't want to be creative - whereas quite the opposite is their nature ;)
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<codecaster>
Don't you hate when you had some test passing, and then after a bit of cleanup it no longer pass and you don't know which change screwed it?
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<Xeago>
codecaster: I always commit before cleaning up
<Xeago>
when done cleaning and tests pass, I rebase
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<codecaster>
I should have commited
<m4rz>
hi
<codecaster>
then you can squash
<codecaster>
arf
<Xeago>
exactly :)
<Xeago>
atleast your complaints yielded you new insights :)
<Xeago>
also, try committing, and then undoing all your changes by holding undo
<m4rz>
I'm trying to run this "https://github.com/jewilmeer/amazon-s3-usage-report-parser" but when I run it I've some troubles "/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- builder (LoadError)"
<m4rz>
any idea?
<m4rz>
I've installed gem builder
<Xeago>
How relevant is bundler on 1.9?
<sonne>
Xeago, bundler is always good
<Xeago>
m4rz: are you using bundler?
<m4rz>
no
<Xeago>
try
<m4rz>
how?
<JonnieCache>
use bundler its the one
<m4rz>
no Gemfile
<Xeago>
awww.
<m4rz>
any idea?
<m4rz>
I need it no tools alternative
<Xeago>
do you use rvm or something alike?
<codecaster>
well, actually my problem wasn't in the code, but in a gem that I just released and the main app didn't get the update, I guess it wasn't on rubygems index yet
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<m4rz>
nope Xeago
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<shevy>
Xeago do you love bundler
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<m4rz>
any idea please?
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<Xeago>
shevy: no idea
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<shevy>
m4rz never tried builder
<m4rz>
..
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<JonnieCache>
imagine if prolog were used instead of sql. that would be some futuristic shit right there
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<shevy>
m4rtijn hehe I like that comparison
<shevy>
but right now, it all feels totally alien
<shevy>
takeout(X,[1,2,3,4],_), X>3. /* 6. Conjunction of goals */
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<shevy>
wtf!
<m4rtijn>
I used to hardcore program prolog 2 years at uni
<m4rtijn>
and I loved it
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<m4rtijn>
studied at uni amsterdam, where it was created
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<JonnieCache>
i had to do it for a month at uni. it drove me mad. we never had it adequately explained. by the time i actually understood it, the course was over
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<shevy>
m4rtijn cool
<shevy>
JonnieCache lol
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<shevy>
also, when I want to fix a bug or add a feature, and look at code I tell myself "I shall never again write anything complex"
<JonnieCache>
gems.github.com has been dead for 3 years or more, no?
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<shevy>
dunno!
<shevy>
I didnt know that you can add additional gem listing at all
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<tintin>
I read that , mat wanted to have a scripted language better than python and perl,
<tintin>
so is ruby better than PHP ?
<tintin>
Did mat try to make ruby better than PHP too?
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<ohcibi>
tintin: a programming language better than php is not a high goal
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<ohcibi>
tintin: and this is not meant as trolling, the flaws in this language are way to much and big despite the greater popularity of php
<tintin>
Why better than python and perl the high goal?
<tintin>
ohcibi: What do you mean?
<ohcibi>
tintin: i dont know if there was even a goal to be better than X
<tintin>
Yes, there was a goal better that python and perl, read the wiki
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<ohcibi>
tintin: maybe, i just stated that php hast just to many flaws to be in the same position
<tintin>
I wanted a scripting language that was more powerful than Perl, and more object-oriented than Python. That's why I decided to design my own language
<tintin>
Why didn't mat try to make it better than PHP?
<tintin>
Why competing with python and perl ?
<ohcibi>
tintin: it _is_ better than php, without trying
<ohcibi>
thats what i'm saying
<Xeago>
seydar: elasticsearch DSL
<ohcibi>
there is no need to compete against php, because if your language works right, its better already
<tintin>
How is it better than PHP without trying?
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<Xeago>
tintin: tell me something that is worse than php
<weeb1e>
Hi everyone
<weeb1e>
I need some advice with debugging memory leaks, I'm not having much luck here
<weeb1e>
I tried using GCTrack, but it does not even see the leaked instances, ObjectSpace shows them, but I still don't know why they are not being GC'd
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<weeb1e>
I know a lot of model instances are stored as instance variables in an Event object instance for each event, but that event object instance is never stored, so it and everything it stores should be GC'd, yet it is not happening. The code is basically Event.new(...); It does not store any reference that that event instance in a variable, yet there are over 20000 instances of Event showing in ObjectSpace and it continues to rise forever
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<tintin>
Xeago: PHP is flexible and it has many built-in method/functions to make websites
<ohcibi>
lol
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<ohcibi>
tintin: allt he languages you called are flexible and have many built-in method/functions to make websites 8-))
<Xeago>
tintin: it has many built-in method/functions to leak websites
<Xeago>
tintin: but answer my questions
<tintin>
Xeago: What do you mean?
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<ohcibi>
tintin: it has many built-in "features" that are infact misimplementations
<Xeago>
all the c method encapsulations
<ohcibi>
tintin it has broken == and === operators
<tintin>
Xeago: What do you mean by all the c method encapsulations ?
<Xeago>
you cannot implement crypto, only via statically linked libraries, not dynamically linked ones
<m4rtijn>
php is a language for non-programmers - - means its not a programming language
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<Xeago>
tintin: literally c functions directly used in php
<weeb1e>
Does anyone have any idea how I can figure out what is holding references to these instances, that is stopping it from being garbage collected?
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<tintin>
m4rtijn: Do you know facebook.com is writen in PHP? is m-juckerburg programmer or non-programmer?
<Xeago>
facebook.com is no longer written in PHP
<weeb1e>
tintin: ^
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<apeiros_>
oh dear. you guys are easy pray for a troll…
<Xeago>
it is compiled to or either from php, mostly for the availability of c++
<weeb1e>
facebook is mostly python and java
<m4rtijn>
I did not say php users aren't programmers
<tintin>
Xeago: What's wrong using C like functions, this is one of the reason people choose PHP
<barefoot>
lol
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<JonnieCache>
go away
<ohcibi>
guys..... don't feed......
<Xeago>
fine I'll stop
<ohcibi>
the p
<weeb1e>
yeah just ignore, this debate got old in 2001
<apeiros_>
<°»< <-- here, some fish for the troll
<tintin>
Xeago: What do you mean by facebook is no longer with PHP ?
<weeb1e>
Instead use your time wisely, such as helping me solve this huge memory leak :(
<JonnieCache>
ohcibi: tintin is a known troll. he does this every so often. just ignore him
<apeiros_>
meh, the bad things about new laptops - you miss all the logs from your old computer
* tintin
is reading those links
<ohcibi>
didnt know
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<ohcibi>
tintin: dont switch on my fan
<apeiros_>
I think it's the 4th or 5th time I see him start this conversation
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<Xeago>
apeiros_: is this how channels on freenode get run? opless but requested only when needed?
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<apeiros_>
Xeago: there's no common, overarching freenode policy or somesuch
<apeiros_>
each channel gets run by the channel owner as he/she pleases
<apeiros_>
and note: I'm not the owner of #ruby
<Xeago>
I wonder why you don't have op all the time though?
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<apeiros_>
what for?
<Xeago>
toleration, presence
<Xeago>
guess that is a matter of preference
<ohcibi>
Xeago: i recently read it in a freenode faq, that it is recommended to not have op all the time... i also really dont know why 8-))
<apeiros_>
some see it as a provocation
<ohcibi>
yeah.. maybe for the social climate
<Xeago>
I guess it helps all been seen as equal tho
<apeiros_>
people are irrational
<tintin>
I have also some links where you will see the disadvantages of ruby too, but i'm not going to paste those links here, you can google easily
<Xeago>
apeiros_: that statement is rational :)
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<apeiros_>
tintin: I think every serious ruby coder is well aware of rubys short-comings.
<apeiros_>
ah, damn. fish.
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<tintin>
apeiros_: That is true for PHP too, i think.
<ohcibi>
so this means we have someone unserious here
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<apeiros_>
ohcibi: of course
<apeiros_>
there's always the zealots.
<tintin>
So far, i knew PHP is faster than ruby.
<apeiros_>
(by which we're back at: people are irrational)
<ohcibi>
*giggle*
<tintin>
I have debug the ruby C source code today
<tintin>
debugged
<fgro>
shevy: and how determine from which method my current method was called?
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<tintin>
that seems , too many thread call/ stack/head initializations/traps etc..
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<ohcibi>
apeiros_: i personally like the ignore-feature of quassel, it instantly hides all old and all further messages of the person
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<apeiros_>
ohcibi: oooh, the "all old" part sounds neat indeed
<ohcibi>
apeiros_: true
<tintin>
So which languages facebook is moving from PHP?
<apeiros_>
back when limechat was written in ruby, I wanted to add the ability to recognize conversations
<tintin>
converting facebook from PHP to what ??
<apeiros_>
tintin: #php ?
<tintin>
ok
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<Xeago>
tintin: facebook java ruby scala r
<Xeago>
c++ c
<Xeago>
pyton and perl
<ohcibi>
and blockly
<Xeago>
seen the latter two as well
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<Xeago>
and c# for some of their ad related stuff
<weeb1e>
Meh
<weeb1e>
I'm getting absolutely no where with this :(
<Xeago>
oh lets not forget javascript, for timeline computations
<weeb1e>
I really don't know what do to
<apeiros_>
fgro: caller, but you'll only get a textual representation
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<fgro>
apeiros_: that's fine
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<tintin>
Xeago: That looks they are using everything but PHP ?
<Xeago>
kinda
<tintin>
Using everything, then why not PHP?
<weeb1e>
Is there an advanced ruby channel or something? With support for ruby subjects like memory leaks, instead of debating about Personal Home Page?
<tintin>
What's wrong with PHP
<Hanmac>
tintin if you want to make ruby better, than do an bug-ticket, if not shut your mouth ... i can do 3D-Rendering with ruby with very high FPS
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<tintin>
Java,python,perl,c,c++,scala,ruby , what else remaining?
<Xeago>
weeb1e: there is ruby-lang
<Xeago>
tintin: r
<Xeago>
fortron
<weeb1e>
Xeago: No one ever talks there
<tintin>
Xeago: What is r ?
<apeiros_>
tintin: why do you ask about ruby vs. php?
<Xeago>
a statistical language
<tintin>
Hanmac: What is FPS ?
<Xeago>
weeb1e: then I'd suggest posting on a board/mailinglist
<Xeago>
oh geez
<Xeago>
apeiros_: please
<Hanmac>
frames per second
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<weeb1e>
tintin: PHP is an ancient, horrible language made to allow any old person to be able to make simple programatic additions to their plain HTML Personal Home Page (PHP)
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<weeb1e>
PHP is one of the very worst languages in common use today, please stop talking about it
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<ohcibi>
weeb1e: he wont
<apeiros_>
tintin: or rather - give me a reason why I shouldn't ban you…
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<shevy>
weeb1e only the ruby developers on the mailing list
<Hanmac>
yeah he is gone :D
<apeiros_>
wow, I didn't have to swing the mighty ban-hammer
<weeb1e>
I think he finally got the point
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<Hanmac>
weeb1e until he comes back again
<shevy>
that bitch!
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<weeb1e>
I'm starting to think rubys GC is borked
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<Hanmac>
shevy remembers that he has talked with tintin before
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<shevy>
nah
<shevy>
I just wanted to insult him when he was not looking
<Hanmac>
weeb1e i maybe thought that he didnt know how to use the GC currectly ... i managed to make mark the objectes not to be deleted (because i want control when the objects are destoyed)
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<weeb1e>
I don't set any references to new Event instances created yet the instances are never destroyed
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<weeb1e>
So I have to restart my application 3 times a day or it stalls using up all the memory on the server
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<Hanmac>
weeb1e do you use some kind of lib or gem? maybe his is keeping the instances alive (my gems do)
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<weeb1e>
I have loads of gems and libs but nothing that should be doing that...
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<weeb1e>
It is pretty much impossible to trace the references to these instances, so I really don't have any idea how to fix this
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<Paradox>
its not impossible
<shevy>
you just give up too quickly
<Paradox>
you should be able to see whats happening in log files
<Paradox>
and if not
<Paradox>
write more verbose logfiles!
<Paradox>
or use pry and try to trigger it yourself
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<weeb1e>
Paradox: What do I print out?
<ohcibi>
weeb1e: if your "loads of gems" does not belong to your project, then use rvm, create an empty gemset and try it without your other gems
<weeb1e>
The point is, nothing ever references these instances
<Paradox>
weeb1e, well, what type of app is it
<JonnieCache>
weeb1e: are you *sure* nothing references it?
<weeb1e>
It is an EventMachine application
<shevy>
weeb1e how do you know that? external gems can do shitloads of crazy things
<weeb1e>
JonnieCache: Event.new(...)
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<weeb1e>
The instance is never set to a variable
<Paradox>
as far as I know, third party gems dont influence anything unless you include them
<Paradox>
but as someone suggested
<Paradox>
uninstall/make a new gemset
<Paradox>
speaking of gems
<weeb1e>
Bleh
<Paradox>
i need to update my ruby
<Paradox>
fun
<shevy>
if you require something, that can do craziness
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<JonnieCache>
weeb1e: with stuff like ObjectSpace you can never be sure
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<weeb1e>
I can't just remove gems as that would break all sorts of things
<ohcibi>
weeb1e: dont start like tintin 8-)) read what we write... use rvm and create a new gemsets, with this you dont have to uninstall your usual gems
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<weeb1e>
7000 instances have leaked while I have spoken in this channel
<shevy>
something creates them automagically
<weeb1e>
I create them, myself
<Paradox>
shevy, i meant require, silly me
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<shevy>
7000 times?
<Xeago>
I shiver from eventmachine..
<weeb1e>
I am almost sure it is not a gem doing this
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<ohcibi>
weeb1e: "almost"
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<JonnieCache>
isnt there some kind of profiler that can track the references?
<weeb1e>
shevy: UDP logs are parsed, each line that matches certain patterns are turned into events
<ohcibi>
weeb1e: there must not be any "almost" nor "should"
<weeb1e>
events have state, but only while being processed
<weeb1e>
so the event instance is created, but never assigned to anything, it is intended to be GC'd once processing is complete
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<weeb1e>
JonnieCache: I wish there was
<Paradox>
JonnieCache, debugger, pry
<weeb1e>
A piece of code called GCTrack can supposedly do it, but it does not see these instances
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<weeb1e>
Paradox: How can pry be used to trace where references to instances come from?
<Paradox>
stat
<weeb1e>
I will install it now if it can do that
<Paradox>
stat object shows stuff about it
<weeb1e>
Ok, I will try that then
<weeb1e>
Thanks
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<Paradox>
hrm
<Paradox>
what was fixed in p286
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<JonnieCache>
minor stuff
<Paradox>
the changelog is, as usual, wonderfully sparce
<Paradox>
se
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<Paradox>
well 2 is under feature freeze
<Paradox>
so we might see it before 2015
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<shevy>
nah
<shevy>
not before 2019
<Paradox>
damn rbenv install is taking its sweet time
<Paradox>
started the install at 9:50:21
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<Paradox>
and its now 10:01
<ohcibi>
Paradox: you compiling on your android smartphone?
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<Paradox>
no
<Paradox>
my beefy mac pro
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<Paradox>
it just finished
<Paradox>
damn, that was a long compile
<Paradox>
git 1.8 took less time
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<Xeago>
then again git is maintained by speed freaks
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<weeb1e>
Paradox: stat doesn't even work on objects...
<weeb1e>
It says it needs a method
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<weeb1e>
So I really don't know how to use pry for this purpose :/
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<Paradox>
weeb1e, try pry+pry-stack_explorer
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<Androidnewbe>
hi
<Androidnewbe>
any one using capybara, selenium, cucumber ?
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<invisime>
!anyone
<invisime>
oh damn. that bot's not here anymore.
<invisime>
Androidnewbe: ask your question. don't look for someone with particular experience.
<Androidnewbe>
ok anyone
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<Androidnewbe>
is the a way to run multiple browsers for one test in cucumber ?
<Androidnewbe>
using selenium and capybara :)
<invisime>
just have a second instance of selenium.
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<Androidnewbe>
invisime you mean second instacne of selenium server ?
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<invisime>
Androidnewbe: you shouldn't need a second instance of the server, just of the selenium browser. somewhere in your code, you should say something like SeleniumBrowser.new or somesuch. do that again to get a second browser.
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<Androidnewbe>
exactly but with cucumber it seems like is not as simple as that
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<delinquentme>
OK so Im running a make operation ... and I'm getting " no such file to load " ... even though I've verified that the gem is installed by running a $ gem list
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<rubious>
Is it possible to have more than one table in a single CSV document?
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<rubious>
More than one table == 2 tables with different headers and column counts?
<invisime>
rubious: it depends on what you're using to parse it.
<apeiros_>
rubious: csv doesn't even state that a csv consisted of a table
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<invisime>
exactly.
<apeiros_>
you could have every row with a different number of "cells"
<rubious>
Ahh, I see
<rubious>
So I can pretty much jam anything I want in there
<invisime>
although if you need more than one table, you might want to use a "real" database.
<invisime>
rubious: j-j-j-jam it in!
<apeiros_>
most standard tools will assume that csv = table
<rubious>
invisime: I am generating CSVs from our DB for download
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<invisime>
rubious: I might say one file per table then.
<invisime>
and put them in a zip or something.
<rubious>
kk, thanks invisime apeiros_
<apeiros_>
rubious: make a tgz or zip of multiple csv's then
<rubious>
yeah
<apeiros_>
meh, i was too slow
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<invisime>
lol.
<invisime>
this is what /tmp is for.
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<Bdawk>
What are my options for alternatives to having usernames/passwords inside of ruby scripts. Can i import an encrypted file where the user/pass is stored?
<Muz>
Sure, or you could read it i from an environment variable, or use a non-password based auth method (tokens and certs)
<RubyPanther>
Bdawk: you could use PAM :)
<Muz>
What's this a username/password for? That may dictate your options.
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<Bdawk>
the user/pass would be authentication to another server or appliance
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<Muz>
If you're limited in what and how you authenticate via, you could store those credentials elsewhere, and secure them
<Bdawk>
having the data encrypted in some way would be preferrable
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<RubyPanther>
And then you can use any *nix pw backend you want, pretty much. The default is probably encrypted already.
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<Bdawk>
interesting, where is the user/pass stored
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<shevy>
IN MY PANTS
<Bdawk>
well i don't want that many people to have access to them :(
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<davidcelis>
zing
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<Isvara>
I'm trying to use Apache Buildr, which is written in Ruby, and it's messing up the POM files it downloads. The repository HTTP server is serving the files up with 'Content-Encoding: gzip', and Buildr just saves them as-is without decompressing them. It's using Net:HTTP -- shouldn't that be doing the decompressing itself? Does that need to be enabled somehow? (I've also tried passing '' and 'identity' as the 'Accept-Encoding' header, but that has no effect.
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<blazes816>
are there any plans on expanding the &:method syntax to allow parameters in someway?
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<blazes816>
e.g. I can do User.all.each(&:delete), but it'd be nice if there was a way to do something like array_of_hashes.each(&:[], :key)
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<mr-rich>
rking: I'm figuring stuff out now ... one quick Q: How do I parse/extract the response data from savon?
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<rking>
mr-rich: It comes back like r.to_hash[:themethodname_response]
<rking>
Which is an annoying data structure. All I can guess is that it's possible to call several methods in one request, somehow justifying it being a hash with a key like that — but even that doesn't make sense, because what if you call the same method a couple times? I donno.
<mr-rich>
rking: hmmmmm I saw that in the hash ... thanks
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<apeiros_>
bricker: one is a lambda and one is a proc
<vectorshelve>
how to make sure that this rake task either has to pass completely successfully or rollback.. any exceptional handling or rescue way ? https://gist.github.com/3975641
<bricker>
apeiros_: What's with the argument error, though?
<apeiros_>
the difference being that a lambda performs argument count checking
<apeiros_>
whereas a proc accepts just any amount of args
<bricker>
apeiros_: But I'm not passing, nor accepting, any arguments for the lambda
<apeiros_>
->(*) { self.id }
<apeiros_>
bricker: yes, you do
<apeiros_>
you pass it to instance_eval
<apeiros_>
and instance_eval yields 1 argument to the block
<bricker>
apeiros_: ohhhhhh
<bricker>
apeiros_: Thanks!
<bricker>
apeiros_: Better to use a proc or a lambda for instance eval?
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<apeiros_>
I don't think one is better than the other
<apeiros_>
just be aware that lambda checks for arg count
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<bricker>
apeiros_: Thanks for the help!
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<nobitanobi>
If I open an output file in an objects method, and I want to use that same file in another function of that object, how can I store that reference to the file?
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<dmiller>
notbrent: in an instance variable
<dmiller>
oops nobitanobi *
<dmiller>
sorry
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<nobitanobi>
thanks dmiller
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<Banistergalaxy>
Sup
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<Keva161->
Hey guys, I'm trying to create a simple application to try out some stuff (Code is here: https://gist.github.com/3976116) However, it quits unexpectently when it gets to the if statement with the error - test.rb:13:in `initialize': No such file or directory - (Errno::ENOENT)
<Keva161->
from test.rb:13:in `<main>'... any ideas?
<Keva161->
from test.rb:13:in `open'
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<Rya>
what did you type, its just saying whatever path you typed it's unable to find
<Rya>
Just to clarify, the error is on line 13, not the if on line 7 according to the output
<Keva161->
i just pressed the return key to see if the loop worked correctly
<Rya>
ah, well your if condition is wrong then
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<Keva161->
hmm
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<Rya>
length will never be < 0, you should check for an empty string, or even better, a valid filename
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<shevy2>
say I have a file, foo.txt
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<shevy2>
hmm... Is there a way to pass the content of this file, via system() or some other way, from within ruby?
<shevy2>
wc -l < foo.txt
<shevy2>
I'd want to get rid of the "< foo.txt" part
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<shevy2>
and just transfer the data directly to wc -l
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<Rya>
Checkout Process.spawn
<Rya>
it should handle what you're looking for
<x82_nicole>
What is a static variable? Can't seem to find anything in ruby about that.
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<Mon_Ouie>
Because Ruby doesn't have static variables
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<Rya>
x82_nicole: what exactly do you mean by static variable? C or C# style for example? What are you trying to achieve?
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<Mon_Ouie>
It has class variables as well as class instance variables
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<shevy2>
Rya hmm cool
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<x82_nicole>
Rya: just trying to understand what they are. Are they only in other languages?
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<Rya>
depends what you mean by it, if you mean the static keyword in C style, we don't have it (local file only access or same value throughout each function call), but if you mean a class variable, sure it's there
<Rya>
it's probably best to ignore what they are if you don't already know, and focus on what you're trying to achieve with what you think they are?
<Mon_Ouie>
The name "static variable" isn't used in Ruby it all
<Mon_Ouie>
at all*
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<Hanmac>
in ruby NOTHING is static :D
<Mon_Ouie>
The concept of class variables (or alternatively class instance variables) is somehow similar to that of static variables in some other languages
<Rya>
yes, but people accustomed to some other languages throw the term around a lot, and probably mean one of two things, so let's figure out what the ask is! :P
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<shevy2>
Hanmac a symbol is static!
<shevy2>
damn the 2 in my nick
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<shevy>
beeetter
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<shevy>
ohhh
<shevy>
wc, the unix program, requires a file?
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<shevy>
oh well there goes my idea
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<hoelzro>
shevy: it requires a stream
<hoelzro>
you can run it on standard input
<shevy>
hmm
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<BryanWB>
dear rubyists, what is the difference b/w minitest::spec and rspec?
<BryanWB>
pls help me understand
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<shevy>
no idea
<shevy>
both seem to test something
<shevy>
possibly in different ways
<shevy>
one of them surely sucks more than the other
<shevy>
I'd say minitest::spec sucks more because it's longer to type
<havenn>
BryanWB: minitest/spec is faster, less code, newer, included in Ruby
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<havenn>
BryanWB: Rspec is more widely used
<BryanWB>
havenn, that's helpful
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<BryanWB>
i maintain a bunch of Chef code so understanding these details would be helpful
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<BryanWB>
havenn, are minitest::spec and rspec functionally equivalent? are there difference in philosophy?
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<havenn>
BryanWB: Minitest is more minimalist. It has add-ons, like minitest-matchers that extend it ala Rspec or Shoulda
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<BryanWB>
havenn, tks again
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<rubious>
How can I make the last element of an array the first?
<havenn>
rubious: Array#rotate
<rubious>
havenn: thanks
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<havenn>
rubious: Just give #rotate the argument: -1
<havenn>
[:first, :middle, :last].rotate(-1)
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<arietis>
hey, any ideas which expectation is proper to check if "a" and "b" are same string?
<arietis>
must_equal?
<sent-hil>
arietis: in test unit?
<arietis>
minitest
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<arietis>
looks like must_equal is ok
<havenn>
arietis: Yes, if you want to insure the two strings contain the same text. No, if you want to check if both variables point to the same object.
<arietis>
at least test is passed
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<havenn>
arietis: As long as you just wanna test string content matches, that is all good.
<arietis>
kk, thanks
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<rking>
How do you translate this into English?: class << self
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<rking>
Perhaps it can only be translated into Japanese.
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<sent-hil>
rking: open singleton scope?
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<apeiros_>
rking: open the singleton class of self
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<rking>
Is :<< as a method somehow being sent to something? Or is "class <<" parsed all as its own thing?
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<apeiros_>
rking: it's syntax, not a method call
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<rking>
OK, thanks.
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<havenn>
Anyone have Halloween plans in Denver night before RubyConf?