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<pragmatism_> Any idea? I'm banging my head against a well here
<drbrain> pragmatism_: it seems the issue is with the configure script
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<pragmatism_> I'm using latest rbenv and ruby-builder
<drbrain> … or maybe missing/explicit_bzero.c is broken
<pragmatism_> other devs haven't had an issue
<drbrain> it's probably a ruby issue, not a rbenv/ruby-builder issue
<pragmatism_> >.<
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<drbrain> ruby 2.3 isn't released yet, so that could be why
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<drbrain> ↑ makes me think configure script is wrong
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<drbrain> Try pulling 8ea55641830d29d6e1f54803406a5a111c12770b, or drop back to a release version of ruby
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<soulisson> Hi, I'm new to ruby, I would like to know how a block is implicitly passed to a method? Is a reference to the block implicitly passed to the method when the method is called?
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<RainBowww> how to learn ruby
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<baweaver> RainBowww: what have you tried?
<baweaver> including typing that into a search engine
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<drbrain> soulisson: what do you mean by "implicitly"?
<RainBowww> haha
<RainBowww> i think what i need is how to program in object oriented way
<RainBowww> i dont understand it
<drbrain> soulisson: when a block is passed to a method, a reference to it is included as one of the parameters
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<soulisson> drbrain, when there is only yield in the method and no &block in the method declaration
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<RainBowww> i know basics but how to use it
<baweaver> Practical Object Oriented Design in Ruby - Sandi Metz
<RainBowww> baweaver ok
<RainBowww> :P
<soulisson> drbrain, that's what I thought
<baweaver> the more you give us to work with in a question, the better the answer.
<drbrain> soulisson: so for the implicit one where the method yields, there's a hidden block that is forwarded along
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<drbrain> soulisson: you can use block_given? to detect if one is there
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<soulisson> drbrain, ok, but when the method is called, a reference to the block is passed to the method, right?
<drbrain> yes
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<soulisson> drbrain, thanks
<drbrain> you can send blocks to methods that don't yield or have &block in the parameters too
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<soulisson> drbrain, thanks, I just wanted to know the black magic behind the yield statement :)
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<drbrain> pragmatism: try trunk now, the latest commit should have the fix
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<nkwsy__14> thank you jhass, i switched to chruby and I like it a lot.
<jhass> great, yw
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<Radar> EvilDMP: Jpwe
<Radar> Whoops.
<Radar> How did it go*
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<jakemask> anyone know the logic behind `STDOUT.write(x.blue) while (x = STDIN.readline) != ''` not working even though the multi-line version works?
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<mozzarella> x being undefined?
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<jakemask> right, but if you do a multi-line while it works fine
<jakemask> the execution order is the same, but the variable scope is different?
<eam> what's a multi-line while?
<jakemask> as in while blah; dostuff; end
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<eam> add x = nil on the line above
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<jakemask> yeah, i guess. Seems weird that they're not equivalent
<eam> ruby's scoping is odd
<rubyc0da> yo everybody
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<rubyc0da> i got a coding challenge for yall
<rubyc0da> first one to submit a github link wins
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<jakemask> github.com
<jakemask> do i win?
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<rubyc0da> lel
<rubyc0da> you solve this shit
<rubyc0da> then you win
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<zenspider> do your own homework
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<agent_white> Evenin' folks
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<blub> hi agent white
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<agent_white> \o
<ExterminatesweJ> agent_white: 0/ 88 brother!
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<Radar> !ban ExterminatesweJ !T 1d
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<eam> welp
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<eam> how are everyone's rubies this evening
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<jbrhbr> good!
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<RickHull> anyone playing with immutable strings?
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<RickHull> qq: I saw some example code that does e.g. loop(3) { puts 'hi' }
<RickHull> but loop in 2.3.x doesn't take a parameter
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<RickHull> er, 2.2.3
<RickHull> is this in 2.3?
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<RickHull> of course, there is always e.g. 3.times { ... }
<jbrhbr> will strings by immutable by default in 2.3+?
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<RickHull> no -- there will be a pragma available
<jbrhbr> i see
<RickHull> it will be a very slow rollout. i think targeted for default in 3.0
<jbrhbr> cool, thanks
<jbrhbr> do you think string immutability will pave the way for more interchangeability of strings and symbols?
<jbrhbr> i'm new to ruby and surprised that there isn't more interchangeability, and the main reason i could think that they wouldn't be is string mutability
<RickHull> i'm not sure about the future, but I've been using ruby for about 10 years
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<jbrhbr> that's approximately 9.99 years more than me
<RickHull> and here is my take on symbols vs strings -- they have useful distinctions
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<RickHull> symbols are useful for identifiers -- a chunk of data that will never be "operated" upon. we don't need to e.g. #reverse them, or append to them
<RickHull> where you might define a tuple or indexed array, where the index is meaningful -- for example the standard graphite metric format
<RickHull> (metric_name, metric_value, timestamp)
<RickHull> you could use an array and just know that index 0 is always the metric_name
<RickHull> or you could use a hash, e.g. { metric_name: foo, metric_value: 100, timestamp: now }
<jbrhbr> i don't see how these are points for strings vs symbols though
<jbrhbr> either would work
<RickHull> symbols are less flexible than strings
<RickHull> you'd rather use symbols here -- it indicates that we aren't going to operate upon the keys directly
<jbrhbr> my issue is that some hash-like structures use symbols and others like strings
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<RickHull> it's just a handy identifier that is better than e.g. graphite[0]
<RickHull> i'd rather use graphite[:metric_name]
<jbrhbr> and since they're not interchangeable, you have to know which to use, or .to_s or .to_sym :/
<RickHull> jbrhbr: true, but you should always "know"
<RickHull> and if you don't, that's a code smell that should be chased down
<RickHull> there are some libraries and and 3rd party code that make this tough
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<RickHull> and i tend to avoid those
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<jbrhbr> do you think that kind of knowing should be consistent across all gems or would you consider it fair game if it's consistent only within each gem?
<RickHull> it would be nice if everyone thought and wrote code the same way i do ;)
<jbrhbr> ;)
<RickHull> but I'll have to settle for consistency within gems
<jbrhbr> which manifests as inconsistency in the way your code has to talk to them :/
<jbrhbr> i don't know
<RickHull> yeah, there will always be gems that go against your grain
<RickHull> try to avoid them
<RickHull> or wrap them / modify them to make them behave
<jbrhbr> mongoid lets me do result.field, result[:field] and result['field']
<RickHull> yeah, reminds me of Hashie::Mash
<RickHull> which is an antipattern imho
<jbrhbr> it seems like people *want* interchangeability in these kinds of cases so they kind of fake it
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<jbrhbr> i see
<RickHull> for example, I'd like to do Hash#delete, but that means i can't use 'delete' or :delete as a key
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<RickHull> major orthogonality violation
<jbrhbr> i don't follow that one
<RickHull> things which are orthogonal don't affect each other
<jbrhbr> you mean the attribute access style?
<RickHull> yes
<RickHull> methods are methods, hash keys are hash keys
<blub> do people normally pronounce the # in method names
<jbrhbr> heh i got the orthogonality part
<RickHull> hashes have methods like delete
<jbrhbr> i think foo.x is the oddball
<RickHull> so if you want to have a pseudo-method for hash key access, you are forbidden from ever using 'delete' or :delete as a key
<jbrhbr> easily assailed, but supporting both foo[:x] and foo['x'] seems intuitive to me as a ruby noob
<RickHull> that is more palatable
<RickHull> because it's a code smell to mix symbol and string keys
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<RickHull> but even so, that makes the runtime do a lot of extra work
<RickHull> and i'd rather just be consistent. hashes can take any serializable object as a key
<jbrhbr> i think that's solvable
<jbrhbr> but not when you have mutable keys :)
<RickHull> that means symbols and strings are distince
<RickHull> distinct
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<jbrhbr> yeah
<jbrhbr> thanks for the discussion though
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<jbrhbr> i think my other reasoning is something like this: aside from the nice concise looking code, isn't the main justification of symbols one of performance? ie, you only have to allocate them once and there are probably some checks that can be avoided etc
<RickHull> basically, if you need to identify an internal component, i'd use a symbol. if you're taking outside input, then use a string. e.g. person[:arm] versus tags['some_user_input']
<jbrhbr> and then if that's correct, it once again points at mutability vs immutability. ie immutable strings have many of the same benefits as symbols, thereby weakening the case to have symbols at all
<RickHull> yes, since they are much more limited, they have better performance
<RickHull> in the world of mutable strings, at least, when someone chooses to use a string, I'm assuming they intend to do string operations on it
<RickHull> if someone uses a symbol instead, that communicates to me, as a reader, that this is a permanent sort of identifier
<jbrhbr> and… you feel like that communication is useful? :)
<RickHull> they're not going to e.g. reverse or append to it. match it against a regex, etc
<RickHull> 100%
<RickHull> the person writing the code should be communicating primarily to the reader (not the computer)
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<jbrhbr> being used to immutable strings, fiddling with them in weird ways seems like a smell to me
<RickHull> i look at code as recipes of a sort, codifying human knowledge of methodologies
<RickHull> jbrhbr: you're probably on the right track then. try using ruby 2.3 with the immutable pragma
<RickHull> it will be painful when using 3rd party libs and gems that aren't compliant though
<jbrhbr> like if i saw `d = {'foo' => 3}`, i would *extremely* surprised if someone decided to modify that key
<jbrhbr> [sometime later]
<jbrhbr> cool
<jbrhbr> i gotta get ready to head out
<jbrhbr> i appreciate these kinds of chats. hopefully we can ramble together again sometime! :D
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<diegoviola> when doing something like
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<diegoviola> if average(:time).round(2) >= 0
<diegoviola> is there a way to just get the value from that line and add it to a string?
<diegoviola> without having to say:
<diegoviola> "#{average(:time).round(2)}s"
<diegoviola> all over again
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<diegoviola> in the if block I mean
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<blub> bind it ?
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<diegoviola> blub: to a variable you mean?
<blub> ya
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<timothio> hello all
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<diegoviola> good idea
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<blub> diegoviola: there isnt really any way around it there because the part you care about is only part of the expression you're testing. if you were saying 'if expr.that.might.return.a.truthy.object' and then operating on that object, there are shortcuts
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<diegoviola> dealing with time in coding can be confusing
<diegoviola> time alone already confuses me
<blub> time existing makes for a lot of ugly code
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<diegoviola> does that makes sense?
<diegoviola> just trying to get the average seconds
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<diegoviola> and display it as 0.2s or similar
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<blub> unless its negative, in which case you want to just round it and return the number ?
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<diegoviola> blub: it won't be negative
<diegoviola> but yes
<blub> then why are you testing that it isn't
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<blub> the else part should just throw an error if anything, or just leave out the if and have the method just be "#{sum(:time).round}s" if you're sure
<diegoviola> sum would actually sum all the numbers in that field
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<diegoviola> I need average
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<diegoviola> blub: I actually added the if check because .round results in error when average(:time) returns nil
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<blub> what..
<diegoviola> blub: the unless I mean
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<blub> but the if doesn't guard against that
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<diegoviola> I know, I meant the unless line
<diegoviola> sorry
<diegoviola> average(:time) ? "#{average(:time).round(2)}s" : average(:time)
<diegoviola> this also works for me
<diegoviola> it gets around the nil issue
<diegoviola> but I'm not sure about this
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<danielpclark> Hey all! I'm trying to get a padded Array of bytes for int16 but it's not padding. [-32222].pack("v").bytes #=> [34, 130] .... I need to to be [34, 130, 0]
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<diegoviola> blub: does that looks fine to you?
<blub> diegoviola: avg = average(:time); "#{avg.round(2)}s" if avg
<blub> use variables so you don't recompute things for no reason
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<blub> if you don't write an else and the condition is false, the whole if evaluates to nil anyway
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<diegoviola> thanks
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<bougyman> my mom just got a message on her mac: "Warning: OS CRASH REPORT - Due to a third-party application your computer has crashed, please call <18665377060> for an immediate fix"
<bougyman> valid or bunk?
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<bougyman> it's a modal in the middle of her screen.
<Radar> lol
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<diegoviola> that's scary
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<Radar> Probably bunk.
<Radar> Srsly, just google it
<Radar> bougyman: ^
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<bougyman> I told her to take it to the apple store.
<al2o3-cr> danielpclark: [-32222].pack('sx').bytes
<bougyman> I don't do apple support.
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<danielpclark> @al2o3-cr: Thanks!
<mallu> Can you please tell me how I can get this value? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1b3f7cebbd6a84f1b2ef
<al2o3-cr> danielpclark: np
<Radar> mallu: What have you tried?
<Radar> mallu: response.methods.sort - Object.methods might give some clues.
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<mallu> Radar: response.each_varbind do |vb|; vb.value; end
<mallu> I was hoping not to use each_varbind
<Radar> why not
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<mallu> Radar: I have to get value for multiple OIDs and hoping there is an easier way
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<bigmac> Thread.start{while true; puts s.recv(500); end }
<bigmac> s.puts("hi server")
<bigmac> i would expect the thread to print to screen?
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<baweaver> what's s?
<bigmac> a socket
<baweaver> put the rest of the code into a gist
<baweaver> not enough context
<baweaver> which socket, what library, what's the rest of the code, etc etc
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<bigmac> i know there is already gems doing, what im working on... but its only a example... this thing has puzzled me for a long time, how to read and write to a socket simultaneously.
<bigmac> ill post a server and a client example
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<bigmac> i dont see the option for sytax highlights
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<bigmac> what im looking to do is run this example server on multiple ports...
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<bigmac> multiple machines... (i know this already exist)
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<bigmac> the client can ask the server to do 3 things... build a hash, retrieve a key or retrieve a value from the hash table
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<edj> what languages do i need to know to make an app with ruby motion?
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<havenwood> edj: Ruby
<edj> does anyone know ruby motion or where i can talk to someone who does?
<edj> the irc is empty
<edj> dont i need html and css and javascript ?
<edj> and a javascript framework?
<edj> i want to be full stack
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<edj> I'm sort of lost
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<havenwood> edj: "You will need to learn how to interpret Apple's and Google's interfaces and how to call them from Ruby."
<mallu> can someone please tell me why I am getting "CheckSNMP WARNING: Check did not exit! You should call an exit code method" https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7358f7b4476ca8b971bb
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<edj> so i dont need html/css or javascript?
<havenwood> edj: No HTML, CSS or JavaScript.
<baweaver> it would be to your benefit to do more legwork
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<baweaver> read up on that tutorial
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<mallu> anyone?
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<mallu> "CheckSNMP WARNING: Check did not exit! You should call an exit code method" https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7358f7b4476ca8b971bb
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<edj> do you know where i can find a rubymotion irc thats active?
<baweaver> your ruby code is pretty garbled
<baweaver> why are you defining methods inside a method?
<baweaver> Really there are several issues just in the base code, disregarding the SNMP
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<baweaver> >> [1,2,3].each { |v| a = v + a }; a
<ruboto> baweaver # => nil can't be coerced into Fixnum (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478710)
<mallu> baweaver: I had it def used_memory outside def run but was getting same error
<baweaver> blocks have their own context
<baweaver> first step is fixing your code.
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<baweaver> more than likely you're calling something that doesn't exist
<baweaver> make sure those nodes are actually correct
<mallu> baweaver: This is how I had it https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1ec2236e79c074fd64f3
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<mallu> baweaver: do you see anything that is obvious causing this error?
<baweaver> patience is a virtue
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<baweaver> see the comment
<baweaver> first issue is that that value won't get out of the block
<baweaver> second is that you're using integers when dividing, that truncates
<baweaver> >> 1/2
<ruboto> baweaver # => 0 (https://eval.in/478714)
<baweaver> >> 1/2.0
<ruboto> baweaver # => 0.5 (https://eval.in/478715)
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<baweaver> At least the Debian SNMP OIDs appear correct
<mallu> baweaver: I can use return in used_memory to get the value out correct?
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<baweaver> how much ruby do you know?
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<mallu> baweaver: not a lot :(
<baweaver> as an aside, you want to use snake case
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<baweaver> like_this instead of likeThis
<mallu> baweaver: ok
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<baweaver> more consistent with any library you might use.
<baweaver> in ruby, the last statement in a method is returned
<baweaver> >> def foo; 1 end; foo
<ruboto> baweaver # => 1 (https://eval.in/478716)
<baweaver> >> def foo; 1; 2 end; foo
<ruboto> baweaver # => 2 (https://eval.in/478717)
<baweaver> in this case, those warnings are going to obscure your data
<baweaver> so you'd want to put memUsedPercentage at the end of used_memory
<mallu> baweaver: I only need the warnings to return from the method. I am not looking for the value
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<baweaver> then calling it used_memory is not a good name
<baweaver> be intention revealing in how you name things
<mallu> baweaver: Ok.. I will call it me_warning
<mallu> mem_warning
<mallu> or mem_alert
<baweaver> What I would do instead
<baweaver> leave used_memory as is, have it return a value
<baweaver> you might want it later for something
<baweaver> BUT take the warnings out of there
<baweaver> put it elsewhere.
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<baweaver> like in run
<mallu> ok
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<baweaver> you could probably cheat the varbind a bit by using: each_varbind.map(&:value)
<baweaver> which would get a list of the values, assuming they haven't done something silly in the source like pass the block instead of yielding
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<baweaver> are you using ruby-snmp or net-snmp?
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<mallu> baweaver: I'm using ruby snap.. here is the whole script https://gist.github.com/anonymous/009aae8bf7452e6e6c43
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<baweaver> you do realize that in run all of your code is in a rescue block right?
<baweaver> you want it above that first rescue
<baweaver> indentation won't affect it at all
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<mallu> I'm going to comment out rescue and see if it works
<baweaver> just move that logic above it
<baweaver> no need for that
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<baweaver> lines 52 and 56 in that gist are still broken
<mallu> getting some error .. which is much better.. "Check failed to run: undefined local variable or method `totalMemory' for #<CheckSNMP:0x0000000282b408>, ["./check-snmp-mem.rb:58:in `used_memory'", "./check-snmp-mem.rb:76:in `run'"
<baweaver> blocks have a scope
<baweaver> they don't like sharing
<baweaver> [1].each do |v| a = v end
<baweaver> what's a?
<baweaver> guess what value it'll have if I ran that
<mallu> 1?
<baweaver> nope
<baweaver> >> [1].each do |v| a = v end; a
<ruboto> baweaver # => undefined local variable or method `a' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478721)
<baweaver> inside that block, things are trapped. They don't get out
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<baweaver> Now if you did something like this though:
<baweaver> >> a = 0; [1].each do |v| a = v end; a
<ruboto> baweaver # => 1 (https://eval.in/478722)
<baweaver> a is now something from an outer scope instead of something only defined inside that block
<mallu> ok
<baweaver> now what you want to do is actually this: manager.get(OID).each_varbind.first.value
<baweaver> well....
<baweaver> value = manager.get(OID).each_varbind.first.value
<baweaver> each_varbind is a method that passes its block to an each
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<baweaver> something like: def each_varbind(&block) @varbind_list.each(&block) end
<baweaver> what happens when you pass no block to each?
<baweaver> >> [1,2,3].each
<ruboto> baweaver # => #<Enumerator: [1, 2, 3]:each> (https://eval.in/478723)
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<baweaver> it returns an enumerator that you can do something like call first on
<baweaver> >> [1,2,3].each.first
<ruboto> baweaver # => 1 (https://eval.in/478724)
<baweaver> of course that's a silly thing to do in the case of a standard each, you'd just do: [1,2,3].first
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<baweaver> but in that case where it's throwing things to another list you want to get at, it's valid.
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<mallu> baweaver: ok..
<baweaver> Anyways, blocks are anonymous functions much like Javascript. They have scope
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<baweaver> They can see outside, but they don't talk outside unless they have something to bind to
<baweaver> seeing outside is called a closure, which is a good bit of fun
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<baweaver> >> def adder(x) -> y { x + y } end; add_5 = adder(5); (1..5).map(&add_5)
<ruboto> baweaver # => [6, 7, 8, 9, 10] (https://eval.in/478725)
<mallu> baweaver: so this is what I have so far... https://gist.github.com/anonymous/05b9399ae761bf51b330
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<baweaver> mallu: http://collabedit.com/rrkfy - let's work through this some
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<strehi> hi guys.. I've got ruby source from my team mate
<strehi> With bundle install i got required packets
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<baweaver> gems
<strehi> now i got an error undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<strehi> what could cause the problem? :(
<baweaver> >> nil[]
<ruboto> baweaver # => undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478749)
<baweaver> that
<baweaver> though if you want a better answer we need more context to work with, such as the code that's giving you the error and the stack trace that results
<baweaver> strehi: ?gist
* baweaver sighs
<baweaver> every time
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<ruboto> strehi, we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/0bfbaf86a9480d8b3102
<ruboto> pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
<strehi> that's log
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<baweaver> and the error?
<strehi> undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<baweaver> I know this
<RickHull> lol
<baweaver> the stack trace, the full error
<strehi> Completed 500 Internal Server Error in 615ms (ActiveRecord: 405.3ms)
<baweaver> in a gist
<baweaver> all of that error
<baweaver> _all_ of it
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<RickHull> relevance is that quintessential property of information that is nearly impossible to communicate
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<RickHull> to those lacking context
<RickHull> good paste ^
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<RickHull> now, what is L14 rtm_year_plan.rb
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<RickHull> oh, is the problem `month.to_i` ?
<RickHull> you could add guard clauses like `raise "no year" unless year` and likewise for month
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<RickHull> er, hm, no, i'm barking up the wrong tree
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<RickHull> heading home, later yalls
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<strehi> baweaver: Are you still here?
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<shevy> I am wondering how much material one should add to any given gem of larger size
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<shevy> right now I am playing around with one large gem, and I have a way to autogenerate a .pdf from a local .cgi (via wkhtmltopdf)
<shevy> that .pdf then has about 25 pages or so... now I wonder if that is not too much info
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<strehi> anyone?
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<blub> whats your question
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<strehi> hi guys.. I've got ruby source from my team mate
<strehi> <strehi> With bundle install i got required packets
<strehi> now i got an error undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
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<strehi> what could cause the problem? :(
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<strehi> I am working like 30 hours on this and can't find a solution
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<strehi> I am starting to give up
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<Sam0163141155> In some screencasts and examples in books, it's common to find places where the author uses "# =>" notation to insert return values into the code as a comment. Are there text editor tools to do this automatically? If so anyone know what the tools or the general name for this process is?
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<edj> ja: you there?
<mozzarella> Sam0163141155: I think emacs org mode can do that
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<Sam0163141155> mozzarella: thanks, I'll google that
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<blub> is there a concise way to match 'ab', 'ba', 'a', 'b', or '' with a regex
<blub> but not 'aa' or 'bb'
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<arup_r> When you will create a google account but don't upload image, google will set a default avatar for you. I will pull google user information from their API, and I would like to check if the image url I fetched is the default one that set by the google or not. I thought of to use checksum of the default photo. So everytime, I will pull data from google, before saving the image I will compare the checksum of the default one and newly fetched one, i
<arup_r> f it doesn't match I will save the new one or skip it. Is my approach to this problem correct ?
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<shevy> Sam0163141155 I usually just copy/paste it manually myself :)))
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<yardenbar> Hi all, I'm trying to install ruby2.2.3 on scientific linux 6.1, getting "./tool/rbinstall.rb:728:in `chmod': Operation not permitted @ chmod_internal - /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.2.1/ (Errno::EPERM)
<yardenbar> "
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<shevy> weird path
<shevy> does rvm not install into home dir by default?
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<yardenbar> Seems not, on my other server, where 2.2.3 was install successfully, its the same path but for 2.2.3
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<shevy> OpenURI.open # NoMethodError: private method `open' called for OpenURI:Module
<shevy> hmm is there another way to call it without .send, in the event that you already have a topnamespace method called open() defined that does something else?
<shevy> ok found another one ... to call .open() on the object itself uri = URI.parse("http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/"); uri.open
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<strehi> hi guys
<strehi> I've migrated ruby app on new server
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<strehi> Now I get an error (see link) ... ANYONE?
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<shevy> how is anyone supposed to know what is going on strehi
<shevy> only error that is easily visible is: NoMethodError (undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass):
<shevy> so you got a nil there
<shevy> try to find out why you got a nil
<strehi> shevy: the problem is that it worked before
<strehi> now I use the same version of gem ruby and rails
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<strehi> dependent packages are all the same
<strehi> what else can have affect on it
<shevy> I doubt it ever worked
<strehi> shevy: Your calling me lier now lol... I have an application on the production server
<strehi> I am just migrating it
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<strehi> shevy: Why you doubt it?
<shevy> don't put words that were not used into the mouth of others
<strehi> shevy: I gave a fact... You doubted into the fact...
<strehi> Can you tell me what's the reason for your doubt?
<shevy> strehi that is what you claim it *would* be, a fact
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<shevy> >> nil[]
<ruboto> shevy # => undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478828)
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<strehi> shevy: When I excecute SQL directly on the database I get the value
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<shevy> so change the code to handle nils; and find out why the layer you use there does not work properly. besides, if it works directly anyway, you could even hack-fix it with that nil check, that's like ... 3 lines of more code
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<strehi> shevy: the problem is that I have like 1000 of MSQL selects hehe
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<strehi> I will have to correct each if I don't find the reason
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<norc> Okay.. this is getting interesting.
<norc> >> RubyVM::InstructionSequence.compile("puts(&lambda{})").disasm
<ruboto> norc # => "== disasm: <RubyVM::InstructionSequence:<compiled>@<compiled>>==========\n== catch table\n| catch t ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478849)
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<norc> Apparently there is not so much of a difference between proc/lambda and blocks after all.
<norc> Or no... I think I have to look into how method calls are implemented.
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<xybre> norc: arity checks
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<norc> xybre: Im actually looking deeper. Blocks are about the only thing in Ruby that are not first objects. They are rather species when it comes to how methods are implemented in Ruby
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<norc> *special
<norc> Interestingly until the VM it accepts procs/lambdas as blocks though.
<norc> (Without calling some method to convert it into a block explicitely)
<norc> Well okay, methods are not first class objects either.
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<ddv> blocks are just closures, nothing special about them
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<xybre> norc: a lot of things aren't objects on the VM level, the OO happens at the compiler level.
<norc> ddv: Blocks set up catch points for break, redo, next. They are special when it comes to how they are passed to functions.
<ddv> norc: do you have a specific question?
<norc> xybre: Difference is that methods and blocks are directly exposed to you. :)
<norc> ddv: Nah.
<apeiros> norc's business card: explorer of ruby internals ;-)
<norc> :)
<apeiros> I wish I had the time for such stuff :(
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<xybre> norc: so are numbers, which are not objects in the VM
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<norc> xybre: Sure they are.
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<xybre> Addition and basic math isn't.
<norc> xybre: for the fixnum 1 the INS putobject_OP_INT2FIX_O_1_C_ is used to push it onto the stack
<norc> xybre: Addition is too.
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<norc> >> puts RubyVM::InstructionSequence.compile("1 + 2").disasm
<ruboto> norc # => == disasm: <RubyVM::InstructionSequence:<compiled>@<compiled>>========== ...check link for more (https://eval.in/478850)
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<xybre> Interesting, that's not the same VM code I was looking at a couple of days ago.
<norc> The only thing in Ruby that is not an object is blocks.
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<xybre> The stuff I was looking at was from pre-2.x I think though. I'll post it if I find it again, the interpretation of the bytecodes might just have been misleading.
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<xybre> Yeah almost everything I said above is wrong, my memory sucks. :D
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<xybre> Also the blog post lies about the opcodes and I took them at their word.
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<norc> This is no longer possible since 2.0 though. ;-)
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<norc> xybre: And no it does not lie about the opcodes
<norc> The putobject_OP_INT2FIX_O_1_C_ instruction is just an optimized form
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<norc> For all intents and purposes its equivalent to putobject 1
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<norc> And considering how Ruby has even syntax changes across minor versions, you get different bytecode output depending on your version.
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<xybre> I haven't slept really in like 36 hours, I should really look into this again after I've slept >.<
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<ddv> sleep is for pussies
<xybre> I've been worse things
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<adaedra> Hello
<adaedra> apeiros: let me look at that, it's not the same code as before running
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<adaedra> apeiros: nope, that was never implemented.
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<strehi> why I don't get result from mssql database?
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<strehi> Connection was established OK
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<strehi> When I print select result I get nil warning :/
<strehi> any idea?
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<jhass> use postgresql? :P
<jhass> ?code
<ruboto> We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
<strehi> I also hate Microsoft hehe.... But cooperation sticks to it :P
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<jhass> ?rails
<ruboto> Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<jhass> and show the error message as well as the code causing the error message there too
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<Ox0dea> acdefghijklmopqrstuvwxyz
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<Ox0dea> I took all the way to tryig to mout a live system to realize that I could't log i ecause my ad keys died.
<Ox0dea> *It
<Ox0dea> est morig ever?
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<pontiki> something stuck between them?
<Ox0dea> ope. :(
<apeiros> lol
<Ox0dea> I checked, of course. Clea as a whistle. :<
<apeiros> get an external keyboard
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<Ox0dea> Myeah.
<Ox0dea> Seems it's aout that time.
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<Ox0dea> I've ever ee so thakful for ta completio.
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<shevy> control your cat Ox0dea
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<Ox0dea> :'(
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<batu> Hello, can someone tell me where I can paste my ruby code for sharing with this channel ?
<Ox0dea> ?gist
<ruboto> https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
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<batu> can someone help me with this simple problem please? https://gist.github.com/thebatu/60c58662890a95f17d8f
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<eam> batu: gsub(a, b) vs gsub(a b) ?
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<Ox0dea> Is comma the ew semicolo?
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<eam> everyone loves the colon, hates the semicolon
<Ox0dea> "Don't use semi-colons! They are transvestite hermaphrodites, representing exactly nothing."
<batu> shit
<batu> I totaly missed that
<batu> thanks guys
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<eam> batu: when it says "undefined method 'term'" probably look for each instance you use 'term' :)
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<Ox0dea> Lie umers are also quite helpful.
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<Ox0dea> I've also lost the use of my right Alt key; how could this day get worse?
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<batu> I am trying to make a script that will parser several JS files, and it will substitute certain words (Lexicon). the script should take as an argument file name to be modified and outout the result on a file called filename+Modified
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<batu> any advices on what method to use for IO in rub? line reading from a file ?
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<Ox0dea> batu: File.read('foo').gsub Regexp.union(LEXICON.keys), LEXICON
<Ox0dea> No particularly good reason to do it a line at a time.
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<Ox0dea> Line breaks are liable to cause some trouble, but maybe you don't have any between the multi-word terms?
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<batu> the input file will look like jQuery code. and I need to replace some deprecated method names with others. In order to speed up a conversion process from AS3 to HTML5 and createJS
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<mrgrieves> any suggestions on vim plugins to look at to help with writing in ruby? I know google can help me with that but wanted to hear first hand from ruby savvi people that are also vim users
<Ox0dea> batu: https://eval.in/479113
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<Ox0dea> mrgrieves: Have you come to Vim from an IDE?
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<rethi> mrgrieves: I just use a syntax highlighter and vim-ruby
<rethi> I have heard good things about the vim-rails plugin. but I don't do much rails dev at all so never needed it
<mrgrieves> yes, I've been looking at what vim-ruby gives me but it's very limited ... on mac for example if look for string methods I couldn't find an easy way to jump the long list of methos faster
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<mrgrieves> it would be nice to paginate the list
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<mrgrieves> vim-ruby-doc seems useful as well ...
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<mrgrieves> but it doesn't seem to be maintained
<rethi> yeah would be nice to have the docs to hand in vim. I should adopt that into my workflow!
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<rethi> hmm no open issues, last commit 3 yrs ago. seems pretty dead
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<adaedra> Under OS X you can look for the Dash app – not only Ruby-related, but it's a nice thing to have
<rethi> Yeah Was just about to suggest that adaedra:
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<mrgrieves> Thanks!
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<arup_r> Can you guys give me some hints on this https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/8c133c78912166ff4a19 ? I want to calculate the checksum using MiniMagick .. but not getting any reference ..
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<argoneus> could someone walk me through some code if it's not too much trouble?
<argoneus> it's fairly basic >_>
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<Ox0dea> argoneus: How much code?
<argoneus> about 5 lines
<argoneus> it's a block, essentially
<argoneus> I thought I already understood how blocks worked, but I have no idea how this works
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<Ox0dea> Shoot.
<argoneus> I don't even understand how come this can be used as a block
<argoneus> info doesn't yield anything
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<Ox0dea> argoneus: Every method receives an implicit block.
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<argoneus> I just don't even understand what "info" even is, if it's an object or what
<Ox0dea> It's a method.
<argoneus> and why you have to put values in it so awkwardly
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<Ox0dea> Unless there's some magic hidden elsewhere (not particularly unlikely), that `info do` is superfluous.
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<argoneus> superfluous?
<Ox0dea> Unnecessary.
<argoneus> so the method "info" returns -some object-, and then I call that weird inject on it?
<Ox0dea> No.
<ddv> anyone know how I can generate a date range, reject some days for example sundays and extend the range with a next available day? Obviously I can do something like (Date.today..Date.today+5.days).reject{|day| day.sunday?} but this would remove sunday and make the range smaller
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<Ox0dea> argoneus: Given the two snippets to which you've linked, that block doesn't even get executed.
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<arup_r> Is my question so hard.. ? :)
<argoneus> are you sure?
<Ox0dea> `info` does receive it, but it's not invoking it, thus my suspicion that there must be some spooky action at a distance going on.
<argoneus> and I had no idea what it was trying to tell me, so I went snooping in the code instead
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<argoneus> I couldn't even find on google what a DSL method is
<Ox0dea> >> def foo; end; foo { this is not going to be executed so we can say whatever } # argoneus
<ruboto> Ox0dea # => /tmp/execpad-7ebf5c323d8d/source-7ebf5c323d8d:2: syntax error, unexpected tIDENTIFIER, expecting '(' ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479177)
<Ox0dea> Dammit.
<Ox0dea> >> def foo; end; foo { smaller test case } # argoneus
<argoneus> yeah it just seems to be a random block in a class
<ruboto> Ox0dea # => /tmp/execpad-62994ee608dd/source-62994ee608dd:2: syntax error, unexpected '}', expecting keyword_whe ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479178)
<Ox0dea> Omigod.
<argoneus> but according to the tutorial it should work
<argoneus> this is 2blackbox4me
<Ox0dea> argoneus: I kept accidentally using keywords, but maybe you still caught the gist?
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<Ox0dea> It is just a random block in a method call.
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<Ox0dea> Blocks can *only* occur as the last argument of a method call.
<argoneus> I still have no idea how this works
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<argoneus> like options.fields.inject({}), is this a property of an object returned by info?
<argoneus> options.fields that is
<Ox0dea> It's not the return value of `info` which is receiving the block; it's the call to `info` itself.
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<Ox0dea> I wonder if it might be the case that you've unearthed the wrong `info` method.
<argoneus> so the argument to "info" is a block?
<Ox0dea> Yes.
<Ox0dea> Blocks are arguments.
<argoneus> ehhh
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<argoneus> any idea how you'd figure out how to put something in 'extra' or 'credentials'?
<argoneus> there doesn't seem to be a pattern
<Ox0dea> Aha!
<Ox0dea> As usual, metaprogramming is to blame for the confusion.
<argoneus> oh yeah
<argoneus> I saw this piece of code and just noped out
<Ox0dea> Heh.
<Ox0dea> That's the "real" definition of `info`.
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<Ox0dea> The one that
<Ox0dea> is being invoked with that block, at any rate.
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<Ox0dea> (I'm having to use Numpad 1 and 2 for B and N. It's the worst thing ever.)
<argoneus> is the first line, %w etc
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<Ox0dea> >> %w[foo bar baz]
<argoneus> does that basically say "for each item in this array do"
<argoneus> ?
<ruboto> Ox0dea # => ["foo", "bar", "baz"] (https://eval.in/479181)
<Ox0dea> Yeah.
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<Ox0dea> It's just convenient shorthand for an Array of
<Ox0dea> "words".
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<argoneus> yeah I have no idea how this works
<argoneus> the block's inside that is
<Ox0dea> Hm?
<argoneus> l97 and 98 are lost on me
<argoneus> does that translate to like uid_stack(context)?
<Ox0dea> Yep.
<argoneus> etc
<argoneus> this is a lot of reflection
<Ox0dea> It's the #compile_stack method that should be giving you pause.
<Ox0dea> Yes, it is.
<Ox0dea> Hardly the worst it can get, though.
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<argoneus> I don't even know where the compile_stack and merge_stack etc come from
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<argoneus> I tried googling but didn't fin anything
<argoneus> find*
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<ddubs> compile_stack is defined on 103
<Ox0dea> The #compile_stack method is just a regular method defined right there underneath the part I highlighted...
<argoneus> oh
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<Ox0dea> It's a little gnarly.
<argoneus> hm, but in that case
<argoneus> info do options.fields.inject({})...
<argoneus> where does the options.fields thing come from?
<Ox0dea> Elsewhere. :P
<argoneus> ...
<argoneus> uid just uses request.params
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<argoneus> but info suddenly uses options.fields
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<Ox0dea> argoneus: `options` is an attribute defined right there underneath #compile_stack...
<argoneus> how am I supposed to know what to use for credentials/extra, etc.?
<Ox0dea> How indeed?
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<norc> Hi folks.
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<apeiros> moin norc
<norc> Ox0dea: So I successfully used your Object#thaw today for the first time by the way, seg faulting Ruby over and over again. Fun stuff
<norc> apeiros: Hey. :)
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<norc> Turns out you really cannot have instance variables on Fixnums anymore. :(
<argoneus> Ox0dea: is that a rhetorical question? or is it really a mystery
<Ox0dea> argoneus: You seem plenty literate.
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<Neon> Hello, I have a problem installing the wdm gem on Windows 7 64 Bit using Ruby 2.2.0. I'd be very thankful for any help. See the mkmf.log and the console output on https://gist.github.com/Neosublimation/d39d9267bc563460b550 .
<Ox0dea> norc: Noice!
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<Ox0dea> norc: Are segfaults bad for the computer in any way?
<argoneus> Ox0dea: not sure what you mean by that :<
<norc> Ox0dea: Not since the invention of memory protection. :-)
<Ox0dea> norc: Wait, you thawed a Fixnum?!
<norc> Sure.
<Ox0dea> >> 42.frozen?
<ruboto> Ox0dea # => true (https://eval.in/479184)
<norc> Frozen since 2.0
<norc> Before you could add instance variables and everything.
<norc> 19 >> 42.frozen?
<norc> 19>> 42.frozen?
<ruboto> norc # => false (https://eval.in/479185)
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<argoneus> oh, I figured it out
<argoneus> the tutorial uses fancy writing for simple things
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<Ox0dea> Might be of some interest.
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<Ox0dea> Nobu borked it at some point. :<
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<norc> He's such a kill joy that way.
<Ox0dea> Ja.
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<Ox0dea> I suspect you're plenty aware of the fact that objects are carrying around all sorts of hidden state in
<Ox0dea> "inaccessible" ivars?
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<norc> Oh yeah. :-)
<batu> :Ox0dea ty
<norc> Ox0dea: I was quite amused when I figured out that the only way that they are hidden is that they don't have a leading @ in their name.
<apeiros> norc: iirc in older rubies you could set those yourself from ruby using ivar_set/_get
<norc> From the looks you just provided an interface for them.
<norc> apeiros: Interesting.
<apeiros> nowadays ruby insists they must be "proper" ivars :D
<apeiros> but from C (iirc) you still can
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<Ox0dea> Just so.
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<Ox0dea> I still don't really get it.
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<argoneus> thanks Ox0dea it werks now :D
<apeiros> the idea behind it?
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<Ox0dea> No, why nobu goes out of his way to make it hard/impossible to have our fun in this area.
<apeiros> what did he make hard?
<Ox0dea> FrozenCore, for starters.
<apeiros> (missed that obv)
<apeiros> ah
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<apeiros> yeah, frozencore confused me a bit. it goes against rubys earlier stance to not handhold devs.
<Ox0dea> That it does. :<
<apeiros> "if you want to shoot your foot - here, take this rocket launcher. but know that I warned you."
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<Ox0dea> "Ruby: it gives you footnukes."
<apeiros> that sounds like a terrible kind of infection
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<isjaylee> i'm using nethttp to connect to a self signed cert server. how do i open up the connection to get the public ca before making my request?
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<ddubs> why not just add a verify_ssl = false style flag?
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<isjaylee> ddubs: well, that defeats the purpose of ssl
<ddubs> so does trusting the cert chain from the server you are connecting too
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<socialjackie> Net::HTTP.start("yoursite", use_ssl: true, cert_file: "yoursite.pem")
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<ddubs> the question was worded as if he wanted to read the cert from the connection and then *trust* from there
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<apeiros> that would make little sense then, though. essentially the same as verify=none
<ddubs> yea
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<pyoor> hi all. Is there a recommended gem for monitoring a process's cpu usage on windows?
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<ponzi> In IRB Array#take gives me all methods for Array and also renders Ctrl+D, Ctrl+C pretty useless. What am I doing wrong (OS X 10.9/rbenv/ruby 2.2.3)?
<ponzi> Sorry that should have been: help Array#take
<jhass> press q
<ponzi> jhass: How do I get the help for just the one method?
<jhass> use pry
<jhass> ?pry
<jhass> ah, bot is on the other side of the netsplit
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<havenwood> ponzi: If you'd like to disable paging (where long results stop at the first page) in Pry add this to your .pryrc: Pry.pager = false
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<ponzi> jhass: PRY gives me: Error: No help found for 'Array#take'
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<jhass> ponzi: install pry-doc
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<havenwood> ponzi: From inside Pry that'd be: gem-install pry-doc
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<havenwood> ponzi: Then: show-doc Array#take
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<havenwood> ponzi: Or: show-source Array#take
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<dorei> $ and ? are shortcuts for show-doc and show-source
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<Balzrael> hello everyone
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<gregf_> hey Balzrael. hows it going?
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<jhass> ugh, when gets pry finally ported to slop 4 -.-
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<sarkis> whats the best way to set a hash[:key] if it doesn't exist ?
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<sarkis> good place to use ||=?
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<sarkis> seems to work - answered my own question lol
<gregf_> >> a = {};a[:foo] ||= 1; a
<ruboto> gregf_ # => {:foo=>1} (https://eval.in/479335)
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<jhass> sarkis: depends on your definition of "not existing". hash[:foo] ||= bar will overwrite an existing key that's set to nil or false
<finisherr> For some reason the getaddrinfo method is missing from my Socket class
<finisherr> but I see it right here in the docs
<jhass> ?code
<ruboto> We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
<jhass> also ruby -v?
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<finisherr> ruby 2.0.0p643 (2015-02-25 revision 49749) [x86_64-linux]
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<al2o3-cr> finisherr: Socket.singleton_methods.include? :getaddrinfo :)
<al2o3-cr> or just .methods
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<finisherr> Oh weird, it's got to be a symbol
<finisherr> Ok
<al2o3-cr> yep, cos that is what Socket.methods returns
<jhass> finisherr: respond_to? actually takes both, a symbol and a string
<jhass> don't do .methods.include?
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<finisherr> Ok cool
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<Synthead> I see a lot of gems with an x.y.z version. Is there a particular reason why they generally follow this pattern?
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<Synthead> Also, I'm developing a gem. Should I be concerned about following this?
<jhass> Synthead: semver.org
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<shevy> like the linux kernel!
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<hxegon> hey all
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<jmonreal> Why could I be getting undefined method `new' for Limits:Module (NoMethodError) when the method name developed is initialize
<jmonreal> shouldn't new call that method?
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<eam> jmonreal: did you type it with a single colon, just like that?
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<eam> >> Foo:Bar.new
<ruboto> eam # => undefined method `new' for :Bar:Symbol (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479337)
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<pontiki> jmonreal: .new applies to Class, not Module, i think
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<pontiki> >> module X; end; X.new
<ruboto> pontiki # => undefined method `new' for X:Module (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479338)
<jmonreal> eam pontiki like this: https://bpaste.net/show/17e64ce1d263
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<eam> jmonreal: gist code where you call new
<pontiki> that doesn't create a .new method on the module
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<jmonreal> mmm and what does?
<pontiki> the .new method is def'd in Class
<jmonreal> because I've watching examples and they do have inside a class an initialize method
<jmonreal> which is called when called with new
<jhass> jmonreal: inside a class is the key here
<apeiros> eam: the message is inspect:class
<apeiros> so Limits is the value inspect returned
<apeiros> i.e. they called it on the Limits module
<jmonreal> jhass: so inside the class if I call a className.new that would work?
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<eam> apeiros: ah
<apeiros> (and then we'd be at pontiki's answer)
<jmonreal> eam: I call new from outside
<jhass> jmonreal: let's try something different: Please try to answer the question, don't just say "i don't know": What is the difference between "class" and "module"?
<pontiki> class << self turns Limits into a singleton; you can only have *one* instance of a singleton, thus you can't create new instances of it
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<pontiki> tho my understanding of that is shakey. these other folks can tell more about it
<jmonreal> jhass: modules provide methods that can be shared or used across multiple classes
<hxegon> pontiki: not exactly, but as I understand it ruby has trouble with implementing an actual singleton cleanly
<apeiros> pontiki: class << self doesn't turn it into a singleton
<jmonreal> a library
<pontiki> see?
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<apeiros> it opens the singleton class of `self` (could put another object there too)
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<jmonreal> and classes are objects
<jhass> jmonreal: okay, so that's what modules can do what classes cannot. Why would we use classes? What can they do what modules cannot?
<jmonreal> an object is an instance of a class
<apeiros> and (almost) every object has a singleton_class, and that singleton_class belongs precisely only to that object
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<apeiros> and it's the place where methods which are only for that object are stored. like "class" methods.
<apeiros> hope that explanation was helpful :)
* apeiros gotta run for the train now…
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<jmonreal> jhass: Classes to encapsulate certain behaviours of our object.
<jmonreal> Modules can not be instanciated? only classes can create objects?
<hxegon> Kind of a long shot, but does anyone have experience with :force_quotes option in CSV
<jmonreal> jhass: so what I would need here is a Class instead of a Module
<jmonreal> right?
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<hxegon> jmonreal: AFAIK, no.
<jmonreal> kinda lost here
<jhass> jmonreal: you would need a class
<jhass> jmonreal: and drop the class << self stuff
<jhass> jmonreal: now scroll up, you were told that like four or five times by now
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<jhass> ?anyone hxegon
<ruboto> hxegon, Just ask your question, if anyone has or can, they will respond.
<idjet> how come you have to wear a seatbelt in a car but not in a motorcycle? motorcycles are more dangerous then car
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<hxegon> idjet: because you don't want to be attached to a motorcycle when it crashes
<jhass> ?offtopic idjet
<ruboto> idjet, this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
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<jmonreal> jhass: thanks, and is it possible to require 'ClassName' ?
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<jhass> jmonreal: require loads files
<idjet> hexagon you don't want to be attached to a car either with that logic
<jhass> jmonreal: you give it filenames
<jmonreal> ok, thanks
<jhass> that files may or may not happen to define a class, module or whatever
<hxegon> idjet: no, a car is all around you, while you are very exposed during a crash on a motorcycle, but I'm moving this to offtopic
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<argoneus> tbh if you crash a bike at high speed you are probably dead anyway
<hxegon> argoneus: very true.
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<argoneus> and if you aren't dead you will wish you were
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<hxegon> Does anyone have enough experience with the :force_quotes option in CSV to show me a working example of it?
<hxegon> jhass: that better? :)
<jhass> hxegon: a little bit. Even better would be to show what you tried and what your issue with your attempt is
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<jhass> argoneus: #ruby-offtopic, for you too ;)
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<argoneus> what the fuck
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<argoneus> is freenode being ddos'd again?
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<shevy> LET'S COUNTERBOMB
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<blub> hi shevy
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<idjet> is terrorism allowed in this chat room?
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<sjums> how do I get the sum of an array of ints?
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<adaedra> &ri Array#inject
<`derpy> method `Enumerable#inject`: Combines all elements of enum by applying a binary operation, specified by a blo… • http://rubydoc.info/stdlib/core/Enumerable#inject-instance_method
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<adaedra> Use this with Integer#+
<adaedra> Ah, the sample already shows it
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* sjums bows to adaedra
<sjums> thanks :)
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<sjums> comes from C#, where there would be a .Sum() method :P
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<adaedra> Ruby does a lot of things with blocs/procs, like this
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<baweaver> >> (1..10).reduce(:+, 0)
<ruboto> baweaver # => 0 is not a symbol nor a string (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479341)
<baweaver> >> (1..10).reduce(0, :+)
<ruboto> baweaver # => 55 (https://eval.in/479342)
<baweaver> every time
<baweaver> anyways, longhand of that is:
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<baweaver> >> (1..10).reduce(0) { |accumulator, i| accumulator + i }
<ruboto> baweaver # => 55 (https://eval.in/479343)
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<baweaver> where 0 is the initial value of accumulator (otherwise it's the first value of the collection) and each return of the block is the next accumulator
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<baweaver> so the first run it'd be acc = 0, i = 1, new_acc = 1
<adaedra> You don't need the 0 in this case, as `+ 0` is never modifying the result.
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<baweaver> what if it's empty?
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<baweaver> more of a safety thing
<adaedra> Ah, yes.
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<baweaver> it costs 3 characters so I just do it regardless as I don't trust users / code very much.
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<sjums> ah, probably best practice ;)
<sjums> but for now I know my source :P
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<JoshL> Does ruby core have a site somewhere to see the pass/fail status of tests and/or nightly compiles? Like a Jenkins setup or something?
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<JoshL> Nevermind it was right in front of my face and I'm stupid. http://rubyci.org/, for the curious
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<hxegon> Really can't find out why this doesn't work https://eval.in/479350
<adaedra> Define "doesn't work"
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<hxegon> output should be quoted, as is noted in the example, but it isn't. quoted as in:
<hxegon> >> %("quoted")
<ruboto> hxegon # => "\"quoted\"" (https://eval.in/479351)
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<hxegon> or rather, individual fields should all be quoted
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<adaedra> ah
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<machinewar> anyone have experience sending file in a post request, need to post a PDF, but not sure how to serialize it
<adaedra> machinewar: depends on your HTTP library.
<machinewar> could I just open the file then send that object as request body?
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<machinewar> adaedra: was thinking net/http
<adaedra> depends on the service you're sending to, but usually files are sent throught multipart.
<adaedra> through*
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<machinewar> that's what i was thinking, but not sure if its as easy as setting content-type to 'multipart/form-data' and giving path to file
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<machinewar> from docs "At this time Net::HTTP does not support multipart/form-data. To send multipart/form-data use Net::HTTPGenericRequest#body= and Net::HTTPHeader#content_type=:" *damn* lol
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<jhass> hxegon: https://eval.in/479359
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<hxegon> jhass: thanks so much. been banging my head against it for a while
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<revengeofbigd> whois revengeofbigd & whois alexblom
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<adaedra> ?
<revengeofbigd> sry, forgot /
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<blub> ruby rocks 007
<shevy> whois revengeofbigd/ & whois alexblom/
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<shevy> blub are you blubjr
<blub> yes..
<blub> im a big girl now
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<Sou|cutter> is there a way to travel up the namespace hierarchy? e.g. Object.const_get("Foo::..::Bar") # => ::Bar
<Sou|cutter> random, I know
<Sou|cutter> I suspect not
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<apeiros> Sou|cutter: I don't get what you want
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<revengeofbigd> how about `foo.split(::).last`
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<revengeofbigd> err `foo.split('::').last`
<Sou|cutter> I know a library loads constants within a given namespace, e.g. const_get("Foo::#{arg}") and I was wondering if I could escape "Foo"
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<Sou|cutter> by escape, I mean load something outside of Foo
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<Sou|cutter> in the same was you can move up a directory in a path with .. -- foo/bar/../baz == foo/baz
<apeiros> >> module Bar; def self.x(v); const_get("Bar::#{v}"); end; Bar.x("Object::Array")
<ruboto> apeiros # => /tmp/execpad-dbe854ff7bf2/source-dbe854ff7bf2:7: syntax error, unexpected end-of-input, expecting ke ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479361)
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<apeiros> >> module Bar; def self.x(v); const_get("Bar::#{v}"); end; end; Bar.x("Object::Array")
<ruboto> apeiros # => Array (https://eval.in/479362)
<apeiros> Sou|cutter: ^
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<apeiros> with warnings on, I think this generates a warning.
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<bougyman> oh wild
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<bougyman> big split
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<Sou|cutter> ahh - that does work, doesn't it
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<apeiros> bougyman: and there I thought you meant my mad skills
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<Sou|cutter> I feel like that shouldn't generate a warning because const_get has a second arg to force inherited-only
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<apeiros> you misunderstand that arg ;-)
<Sou|cutter> do I?
<apeiros> yes. that one's just to disable "deep" const get
<Sou|cutter> well I said it the opposite way right?
<apeiros> and what I do is unrelated to that.
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<apeiros> or maybe I misunderstand it :D
<apeiros> lets see
<Sou|cutter> >> module Bar; def self.x(v); const_get("Bar::#{v}", false); end; end; Bar.x("Object::Array")
<ruboto> Sou|cutter # => uninitialized constant Bar::Bar (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479363)
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<Sou|cutter> woops
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<Sou|cutter> >> module Bar; def self.x(v); const_get(v, false); end; end; Bar.x("Object::Array")
<ruboto> Sou|cutter # => uninitialized constant Bar::Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/479364)
<apeiros> Sou|cutter: ok, you understood it correctly.
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<apeiros> Sou|cutter: and in that case, I think I agree with you on "should not generate a warning"
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<Sou|cutter> cool, thanks for the idea
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<apeiros> with ", false", you'd have to do const_get("::Bar::#{v}")
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<MTeck> I'm sure this is simple, but I'm a ruby novice. How can I do a check like this? if somestring.include? "cde" or "abc" or "xyz" do ... end
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<adaedra> if %w[cde abc xyz].any? { |e| somestring.include? e }
<adaedra> MTeck: ^
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<MTeck> heh...
<MTeck> I could copy/paste... I'm trying to comprehend what's actually going on there...
<apeiros> MTeck: somestring.include?(a) || somestring.include?(b) || …
<Sou|cutter> Regexp.union(%w(cde abc xyz)).match somestring
<apeiros> that's the straight translation of yours to correct ruby
<adaedra> MTeck: then go on, split the expression, and ask about parts you don't understand
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<MTeck> adaedra: Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I didn't think it was right. I 100% believe what you wrote is exactly what I need. I just prefer wrapping my head fully around anything I use just for the sake of learning.
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<Sou|cutter> that's a good attitude to have!
<adaedra> MTeck: you didn't get me. I was telling you to tell me/us what you don't understand in the expression, so I/we can explain it.
<MTeck> ah :)
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<adaedra> Unfortunately, it's time for me to get away from the keyboard, but other people here will surely be happy to explain you what's happening above if you ask about it.
<MTeck> To be honest, I don't know what %w is, or how the whole thing expands in ruby logic. I think I just need to read and look at it for a while. I'll ask questions after that. I want to understand the regex one too.
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<adaedra> >> %w[array of strings]
<ruboto> adaedra # => ["array", "of", "strings"] (https://eval.in/479365)
<mordocai> Hey, i'm getting this when installing ruby 2.2.2/2.2.3 with ruby-build on debian testing. Is this a library version issue? Anyone know? Worked fine a few months ago http://paste.lisp.org/display/163730.
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<mordocai> Debian testing is also using gcc 5 which could cause issues I imagine. Trying to narrow down the issue.
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<socialjackie> What's your `dpkg -s openssl`?
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