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<kfogel> Anyone know how to patch a gem for native build, during a bundle install process? https://hastebin.com/iwugarahar.txt
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<kfogel> (line 43 at above URL has my question, fwiw)
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<franklinyu> Anyone?
<havenwood> franklinyu: hi
<franklinyu> Is https://ruby-doc.org the official documentation site, like https://docs.python.org for Python?
<franklinyu> Or is there any official one?
<elomatreb> I don't think it's actually official, but it's pretty much the standard
<havenwood> franklinyu: There is also: https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.4.0/
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<franklinyu> All right. That site is pretty helpful.
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<franklinyu> Yeah, what's the difference between these two?
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<franklinyu> havenwood: Are they both generated from comments, just generated with different documentation generator?
<franklinyu> Oh thank you, the link you provided explains it.
<franklinyu> havenwood: Never mind.
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<kfogel> Anyone know how to patch a gem for native build, during a bundle install process? https://hastebin.com/iwugarahar.txt
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Why don't you just unpack the gem and modify it in your project?
<kfogel> jaegerca: I've tried that, I think. I put "gem 'json', '1.6.1', :path => 'vendor/bundle/ruby/2.3.0/gems/json-1.6.1'" into the Gemfile (replacing the original line).
<kfogel> jaegerca: then I applied my patch
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<jaegerca> Hrm
<kfogel> jaegerca: I think it may have worked; at least, I have now encountered a different build error.
<jaegerca> That's really the best way I can think of.
<kfogel> jaegerca: (because I'm not very experienced in Ruby, I might be misinterpreting errors)
<jaegerca> What's the new error?
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<kfogel> jaegerca: Oh, I think it worked. Well, here's what happened:
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<kfogel> jaegerca: (it's a bit surprising to me) I replaced the "gem 'json', '1.6.1'" line with "gem 'json', '1.6.1', :path => 'vendor/bundle/ruby/2.3.0/gems/json-1.6.1'". Then I ran 'bundle install --path vendor/bundle' again.
<kfogel> jaegerca: and I got a *different* compilation error (which I'll paste in a moment), but the weird thing is, I get that same new error *whether or not I apply the patch that should allow json 1.6.1 to build locally*.
<jaegerca> kfogel: I would `gem unpack json` and move it into your project in (I am assuming rails) vendor/gems/json, then point your gem path there in the gemfile - just to make sure you are applying the patch you think you are (plus you'll need the source of the gem anyway from here on out)
<kfogel> jaegerca: thank you; I'll try that now. But it has to be json 1.6.1, b/c of the legacy nature of this old fork. I'll read docs on 'gem unpack' and learn how to do that.
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<kfogel> jaegerca: 'gem unpack -v 1.6.1 json'
<jaegerca> Yeah, that should do it
<jaegerca> Put that in your project, apply your patch, point to it with path and see if you get the same error as you did in your last paste
<kfogel> jaegerca: trying that now
<kfogel> jaegerca: ("gem 'json', '1.6.1', :path => 'foo/json-1.6.1'" in Gemfile now, btw)
<jaegerca> Im not sure at that point that you need to keep the version specified but that should do it
<jaegerca> At least now bundler isn't going to throw any surprises and you have everything you need to work with in your project
<kfogel> jaegerca: cool. I get the same error as starting on line 99 of https://hastebin.com/atavukakon.txt -- which I guess is progress of sorts
<kfogel> jaegerca: (thanks for your help, btw)
<jaegerca> That looks like eventmachine causing issues
<jaegerca> There are a few github issues related to that so you are in luck - I think you're past your json troubles
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<kfogel> jaegerca: yeah. I wish I had some way of knowing how many more of these there will be :-), but this is at least one step closer down the... Cantorian... road to getting this built ;-).
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<jaegerca> I would guess you are fairly close at this point -
<jaegerca> What ruby version are you using?
<kfogel> jaegerca: I'm trying to find out who's even bringing eventmachine in. It's not in the top-level Gemfile, nor is it in the json-1.6.1 Gemfile
<kfogel> jaegerca: ruby 2.3
<jaegerca> Do you have a Gemfile.lock?
<kfogel> jaegerca: yes
<jaegerca> You should be able to see what is requiring it in there, open it up and search for eventmachone
<kfogel> jaegerca: oh! it shows dep tree
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<jaegerca> Based on the github issues you might be able to fix that by downgrading to ruby 2.1 - but if you don't need it better to keep the more recent ruby and get rid of the gem
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, what's weird is Gemfile.lock just says "GEM
<kfogel> remote: http://rubygems.org/
<kfogel> "
<kfogel> specs:
<kfogel> jaegerca: and then eventmachine is in the top level of that subtree
<jaegerca> Hm, interesting
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<kfogel> jaegerca: I.e., it's not clear who's pulling it in, yet it's not listed by name in the Gemfile either, if I'm interpreting Gemfile.lock correctly.
<jaegerca> kfogel: Can you paste your lock file
<jaegerca> I think it's thin requiring it
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<kfogel> jaegerca: (the overall context here: this old fork of snorby I'm working with wants to import a more recent patch; the patch applies cleanly to upstream, but needs to be adjusted to apply to this old fork. So my first task is to get the old fork up and running -- that's what all of this is about.)
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<kfogel> jaegerca: interesting
<kfogel> jaegerca: I see 'eventmachine (>= 0.12.6)' yes
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<jaegerca> You might try to update thin, it looks like there is a 1.7.0 version out.
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<kfogel> jaegerca: that's just what I was starting to think... will try!
<jaegerca> Although I would hope it's getting the most recent version since it's looking for anything > that 0.12
<kfogel> jaegerca: current Gemfile says "gem 'thin', '~> 1.3.1'" -- kind of worrying what happens if I go to 1.7.0, but worth a try.
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<kfogel> jaegerca: of eventmachine, right. Yeah, that was puzzling. Well, I'll try thin first.
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<RichardFeynman> Hi peeps
<jaegerca> I would think upgrading thin would have a very minimal impact, nothing to worry about
<kfogel> jaegerca: if no APIs changed
<jaegerca> kfogel: Hope not!
<RichardFeynman> Hi jaegerca
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, new error! at bottom of https://hastebin.com/axeyexolel.txt
<jaegerca> Nice!
<kfogel> jaegerca: yeah!
<jaegerca> kfogel: Looks like you just need to install imagemagik now
<kfogel> jaegerca: I did install imagemagick, as per README.md in https://github.com/onShoreSecurity/snorby, but looking now to see what this error is about
<jaegerca> Ah
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, maybe I need to do 'apt-get install imagemagick-dev' or something like that, you know?
<jaegerca> kfogel: I always do apt-get for that and have never had an issue with the gems finding the files they need
<jaegerca> It's definitely worth a try -
<jaegerca> Though you might just need to update your path to find the Magick-config it's looking for if you know where it is
<kfogel> jaegerca: I just installed libmagick-dev and libmagic++-dev; trying now
<jaegerca> I would think that should do it
<kfogel> jaegerca: (delay b/c I'm also making notes of what we did that worked, so the record-keeping slows me down a bit but is def worth it)
<jaegerca> No worries
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<kfogel> jaegerca: nope, same error about not findin Magick-config -- I'll Google and see if that's a separate package or something.
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<jaegerca> I suppose try libmagik9 ?
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, I tried libmagickwand-dev first (b/c am on Debian, but maybe I should try treating Debian like Ubuntu first, since libmagickwand-dev didn't fix it -- trying libmagick9 now.
<kfogel> )
<kfogel> jaegerca: graphicsmagick-libmagick-dev-compat is the Debian name, it turns out
<jaegerca> I hope that works - if it doesn't then I would imagine it's a path issue - but there really shouldn't be one
<kfogel> jaegerca: and... that gets me to a new one: https://hastebin.com/jugicacake.txt (line 100)
<jaegerca> Oh great!
<kfogel> jaegerca: progress :-)
<kfogel> jaegerca: it's all still part of the imagemagick problems, but this is a new problem
<jaegerca> You have all the -devel libraries?
<jaegerca> Imagemagick-devel as well?
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<kfogel> jaegerca: well, I thought I did, but double-checking
<jaegerca> I have never needed to install anything beyond imagemagick and imagemagick-devel, I wasn't aware so many other packages existed!
<kfogel> jaegerca: "Imagemagick-devel" isn't a Debian package name, and I thought I'd installed all the ones that are Debian-flavored that I might need (libmagick-dev, libmagick++-dev, libmagickwand-dev, graphicsmagick-libmagick-dev-compat, and of course imagemagick itself)
<kfogel> jaegerca: for you 'imagemagick-devel' exists? Are you on Mac, or Ubuntu, or something other than Debian, I guess/
<kfogel> ?
<jaegerca> I develop on a mac, and run amazon linux in the cloud
<jaegerca> You have this as well right? graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat
<jaegerca> Not just the dev-compat
<kfogel> jaegerca: oh, no; will get thaht now
<jaegerca> I bet that's it!
<kfogel> jaegerca: that's not a package here, it turns out
<jaegerca> hm
<kfogel> jaegerca: oh wait
<kfogel> jaegerca: my bad, I did "apt-get install graphicsmagick-libmagick-compat" ... which is not *exactly* what you said :-)
<kfogel> jaegerca: hmm, this is going to remove other packages like 'cups' etc
<kfogel> jaegerca: I'm okay with that for now, but want to record the damage just in case
<kfogel> jaegerca: hunh, even that didn't do it -- same error. still reading
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<jaegerca> kfogel: I am not seeing much other than just having the right libraries installed - I feel like you have all the right ones though
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<kfogel> jaegerca: agreed. but so far, libmagickcore-dev doesn't do it either; gonna try some more
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<kfogel> jaegerca: oh, you know what, I think I'm being too narrow-minded. I fixed the Magick-config issue (it's in /usr/bin/ now). But really, I should just try a more recent version of rmagick.
<kfogel> jaegerca: the line in Gemfile right now is "gem 'rmagick', '~> 2.13.1'"
<kfogel> jaegerca: I should play with that a bit.
<jaegerca> kfogel: That could definitely be it
<kfogel> jaegerca: worth a shot
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<kfogel> jaegerca: went to 2.16.0 -- will see if that does it
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<kfogel> jaegerca: yes; at least, the build made it further! now problem with do_mysql (line 139 or so in https://hastebin.com/gunutomoba.txt)
<kfogel> jaegerca: (aha, that really is coming from gem 'delayed_job_data_mapper', '~> 1.0.0.rc', :git => 'https://github.com/Snorby/delayed_job_data_mapper.git')
<jaegerca> Yeah - I am betting you need some header files for that too
<jaegerca> libmysqlclient-dev
<jaegerca> Something like that?
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<jaegerca> kfogel: ^
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, first trying to not build delayed_job_data_mapper from source, and see if that fixes it
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<kfogel> jaegerca: whew. Well, the result is https://hastebin.com/yaqenaxupi.txt
<kfogel> jaegerca: that is, "gem 'delayed_job_data_mapper', '1.0.0.rc'" versus "gem 'delayed_job_data_mapper', '1.0.0'"
<kfogel> jaegerca: (You're very generous to come along on this odyssey as far as you have; I continue to keep you updated because you've been generous enough to respond, but there's no implication that you are obligated to continue to help of course.)
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Haha, don't worry about it - I am just looking at these two messages - amusing is right.
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Did you attempt a bundle update?
<kfogel> jaegerca: not yet
<jaegerca> I am wary of doing that myself -
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<kfogel> jaegerca: trying it
<jaegerca> Be careful
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<kfogel> jaegerca: one sec; installing https://github.com/seejohnrun/haste-client so as to send these regions to hastebin.com faster :-)
<jaegerca> do_mysql isn't coming from the delayed job gem is it?
<jaegerca> Oh yes it is
<kfogel> jaegerca: I think it is, yes
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<jaegerca> kfogel: I really think your best bet there is to install the client libraries
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<kfogel> jaegerca: you're probably right. https://hastebin.com/anuwepicav btw
<kfogel> jaegerca: going the mysql client lib route now
<jaegerca> Yeah - bundle update is often a path to more headache - in my experience!
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<kfogel> jaegerca: 'default-libmysqlclient-dev' in Debian 'testing' only (every other release line it's 'libmysqlclient-dev', go figure)
<jaegerca> haha
<kfogel> jaegerca: your advice worked! https://hastebin.com/qoxurokanu.txt
<jaegerca> Excellent!
<jaegerca> Looks like you're all set!
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<kfogel> jaegerca: oh, no, not at all -- now I'm just on the next step ('rake') of https://github.com/onShoreSecurity/snorby/blob/master/README.md
<kfogel> jaegerca: I do not anticipate that this will Just Work, but who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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<kfogel> jaegerca: heh -- https://hastebin.com/fulirarawe.txt
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Looks like that was dropped a while back, you might need a more up to date do_mysql - but that seems locked in the delayed gem job
<kfogel> jaegerca: right
<kfogel> jaegerca: (the heck of it is, this is all a pro bono gig too :-) )
<jaegerca> If that's correct you might have to unpack that one too and change the gemspec to require a more up to date version of do_mysql
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Ha - those are always the most complicated
<kfogel> jaegerca: So. True.
<kfogel> jaegerca: oh, you mean use the same :path => trick we used with json-1.6.1
<jaegerca> You might be able to just update the do_mysql version in the gemfile first
<kfogel> jaegerca: but in this case, the "patch" would be updating the module's Gemfile
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Yeah - I would be curious to to know what is requiring the do_mysql (I *think* thats the culprit here) - I think it's a dependency of a dependency in the delayed job gem.
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, they are really using it.
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<kfogel> jaegerca: there's a big SQL dump of sample data accompanying this, from the client
<jaegerca> That delayed job gem is really really old, I have no doubt it's outdated!
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<kfogel> jaegerca: yeah. I told them when we first looked at this that they're so far out of date that it's really a huge tech debt, and they should pay down the principle ASAP
<jaegerca> kfogel: For sure
<kfogel> jaegerca: s/principle/principal/, and sorry for perpetuating that error ;-)
<jaegerca> haha
<RichardFeynman> kfogel: It's IRC. No worries.
<kfogel> RichardFeynman: heh
<kfogel> jaegerca: https://github.com/OpenTechStrategies/onShoreSecurity-snorby/commit/82b15105959f1c4546118f6834c7eea8d3e9e035 (saving all this work on branch 'ots-dev-deploy' in that repos)
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<jaegerca> kfogel: If you remove the delayed job gem from the gemfile does that error go away?
<kfogel> jaegerca: let me try
<kfogel> jaegerca: just "gem 'delayed_job', '~> 3.0.1'"
<kfogel> jaegerca: not "gem 'delayed_job_data_mapper', '~> 1.0.0.rc', :git => 'https://github.com/Snorby/delayed_job_data_mapper.git'"
<kfogel> jaegerca: ?
<jaegerca> kfogel: The datamapper one
<jaegerca> And then if it still fails might try the other one too
<kfogel> jaegerca: nope. but remember, the error is now happening on "rake snorby:setup", as we're past "bundle install --path vendor/bundle"
<kfogel> jaegerca: i'm rerunning "bundle install --path vendor/bundle" before doing "rake snorby:setup" here each time, but the bundle command just succeds each time now, ending with this:
<kfogel> jaegerca: Bundle complete! 70 Gemfile dependencies, 140 gems now installed.
<kfogel> Bundled gems are installed into ./vendor/bundle.
<jaegerca> I wonder if you explicitly require the DATAMAPPER_VESION of dm_mysql, if your other gem isn't depending on a lesser veriosn that will likely work
<jaegerca> gem 'do_mysql', '1.2.0'
<kfogel> jaegerca: trying
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<kfogel> jaegerca: https://hastebin.com/igokopupal.txt -- so now I'm about to do 'bundle update do_mysql' I guess?
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Yeah, that should be sage
<jaegerca> dafe*
<jaegerca> safe*
<kfogel> jaegerca: nope :-). https://hastebin.com/ejezurokar.txt
<kfogel> jaegerca: well, it was safe, just not effective
<jaegerca> Oops, try this version: 0.10.17
<jaegerca> I thought it was in step with the rest of the datamapper gems
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<kfogel> jaegerca: "The bundle currently has do_mysql locked at 0.10.12."
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<kfogel> jaegerca: looking hard at dm-mysql-adapter-1.2.0 as culprist
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<kfogel> jaegerca: heh. DM_VERSION is 1.2.0 in the Gemfile, and... http://datamapper.org/ says that's still the latest version, as of 2011.
<jaegerca> kfogel: Can you try downgrading to ruby 2.1 and see if it works?
<kfogel> jaegerca: that's an interesting idea. let me se.
<kfogel> jaegerca: hunh. 'ruby2.1' not available in Debian testing, so this won't be as simple as I thought.
<jaegerca> I think that the error you are getting is from that being deprecated in 2.2 - if I am right there is a lot of updating that would need to be done -
<kfogel> jaegerca: I suspect you are right, and I think they are probably running 2.1 in production for this (I can ask them on Monday).
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<jaegerca> I hate to say it but datamapper is going to continue to be a huge issue as it's been DOA for almost 4 years now.
<kfogel> jaegerca: btw, any objection to my keeping a transcript of our IRC conversation in my branch on GitHub?
<jaegerca> Yeah - I really think you need 2.1
<jaegerca> No not at all
<kfogel> jaegerca: Strongly suspect you are right.
<kfogel> jaegerca: Fastest route might be for me to spin up a VM somewhere with an older Debian on it, rather than build ruby from source here or something.
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<jaegerca> From what I can tell, it's go with ruby 2.1 and datamapper, or keep ruby > 2.1 and probably need to replace datamapper with activerecord (which really needs to be done anyway if there is going to be any amount of ongoing work with this, in my opinion)
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<jaegerca> kfogel: I would definitely test on a vm if you can though - that's a lot of hoops to go through, I really think I am right but better to know for sure!
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<kfogel> jaegerca: yup. Well, bedtime. I've learned that pushing through till 3am on this kind of task is never wise. Thank you so much for your help; I really appreciate it. If you ever have a Subversion question (they're getting rarer, but you never know), look me up.
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<jaegerca> kfogel: Sounds good! I am here often enough, feel free to ping me! Have a good night, and I am glad you were able to get through the gem installation part!
<kfogel> jaegerca: me too; was definitely progress! Okay, good night.
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<yottanami> I am trying to install Ruby 2.2.3 using rbenv but I got this error http://dpaste.com/1TFSR7S
<yottanami> My libssl-dev version is 1.0.2k-1
<yottanami> I also tried older versions and I got that error. how should I fix it?
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<foxmask> bonjello
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<havenwood> In 2.5: 42.yield_self.count #=> 1
<havenwood> But: 42.yield_self.size #=> nil
<havenwood> Think it's worth implementing the lazy #size for the #yield_self Enumerator?
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<havenwood> 42.yield_self.size #=> 1
<havenwood> It seemed nice for parity. Unsure if it's worth it.
<havenwood> Also unsure if my implementation is sane. ;-P
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<silverdust> What's the best way to inject on a property of a hash like {a: 50, b: 20, c: 30}
<ljarvis> silverdust: could you be more specific?
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<silverdust> Is it best to convert to 2D array and use inject like myHash.to_a.inject{ |a, b| a[1] + b[1] }
<silverdust> ljarvis: I'm trying to add up all the values in the hash
<ljarvis> so from {a: 50, b: 20, c: 30} you want 100?
<silverdust> yes
<ljarvis> >> {a: 50, b: 20, c: 30}.values.reduce(:+)
<ruby[bot]> ljarvis: # => 100 (https://eval.in/794662)
<ljarvis> reduce == inject (i just prefer reduce)
<silverdust> oh .values is what I needed
<silverdust> I also do. Just thought more people here prefer inject so I try to adapt. Thanks
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<ljarvis> I think inject is more popular, but i use reduce in other languages and i'm just more used to it. It doesn't matter too much either way, use whichever you prefer
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<silverdust> yeah
<darix> calling ljarvis inkjet was also popular a while ago
<ljarvis> :D
<judofyr> he will always be inkjet for me
<ljarvis> i will never live it down
<ljarvis> judofyr: <3
<ljarvis> judofry*
<judofyr> heh, judofry highlights in my IRC clinet
<judofyr> client*
<ljarvis> injekt and inkjet still do for me :/
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<hanmac> silverdust: also checkout the default value of inject, because if you got an empty hash/array it does return nil
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<Jakaria> what's the defference between self.method_name vs self.class.method_name?
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<apeiros> one invokes a method on self, one on self.class
<apeiros> >> class X; def self.example; "class method!"; end; def example; "instance method!"; end; def a; self.example; end; def b; self.class.example; end; end; {a: X.new.a, b: X.new.b}
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => {:a=>"instance method!", :b=>"class method!"} (https://eval.in/794678)
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* hanmac wispers instance method of eigenclass and hides in the corner
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<apeiros> indeed. I wonder when I gave up on explaining that.
<xco> why am i getting “nokogiri-1.7.1 requires ruby version >= 2.1.0, which is incompatible with the current version, ruby 2.0.0p648” when rvm says i’m on 2.2.4?
<xco> any ideas?
<apeiros> whatever you use to install nokogiri does't use your rvm ruby
<hanmac> xco seems your "gem" command does not point to the right ruby you use probably the system one
<apeiros> that'd be one potential reason. there's a couple other reasons.
<xco> apeiros: i’m doing “bundle install”
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<matthewd> Start by comparing `ruby -v`, `gem env`, `bundle env`
<xco> how else can i get it to see my ruby 2.2.4?
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<hanmac> apeiros: about gave up, probably the same time you didn't tell others that eigenclasses can have constants too (but thats dirty)
<apeiros> xco: you run `rvm list` and `bundle install` in the same shell?
<xco> apeiros: that’s what i did :)
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<gentleman> should i install ubuntu on arch if i dont need it? just install it for aesthetics purposes? hmmm..
<xco> rvm list says i’m on 2.2.4
<apeiros> then check what bundler you're using, see matthewd's recommendation
<gentleman> like wtf am i doing with life if a cool lang is not installed huh?
<gentleman> ruby* not ubuutu...sorrryy
<apeiros> gentleman: sounds pointless if you don't use it?
<gentleman> apeiros: yeahh..but theres some gut feeling which tells me to install it..not even kidding
<hanmac> apeiros: where i hide my constants
<hanmac> >> x = Object.new; class << x; XYZ = "hihi"; end; x.singleton_class::XYZ
<ruby[bot]> hanmac: # => "hihi" (https://eval.in/794682)
<apeiros> gentleman: then just install it?
<gentleman> lol ok. :)
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<xco> aaaa
<apeiros> hanmac: you should hide them in removed constants in local variables trapped in closures
<xco> gem evn = ruby 2.2
<xco> bundler env = ruby 2.0
<xco> :P
<matthewd> xco: You probably just need to 'gem install bundler' then
<apeiros> xco: yeah, so you probably have a system wide bundler installed
<apeiros> and no bundler for your ruby 2.2.4
<apeiros> in other words:
<apeiros> 13:52 apeiros: whatever you use to install nokogiri does't use your rvm ruby
<hanmac> lets hope the problems are not that big anymore after rubygems did absorb bundler
<xco> apeiros: how do i make my bundler use my rvm ruby?
<apeiros> xco: you install it
<apeiros> for the given rvm ruby, that is
<xco> :( but i did already
<matthewd> ...
<apeiros> not with/for the given rvm ruby, no
<apeiros> or you have your $PATH messed up
<apeiros> (former is more likely)
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<matthewd> `gem list bundler`; `which -a bundle`
<matthewd> Though I'm not sure why I'm continuing as you seem to be ignoring me
<xco> matthewd: i’m not ignoring you :)
<xco> i think my path is messed up. this is what i have: https://gist.github.com/siaw23/61c6ab99872f63cb41b906e2d58de798 on line 20
<xco> but problem is, if i don’t have line 20, i can’t install capybara-webkit
<xco> if i put line 20, gem env and bundler env change
<xco> but the capybara-webkit installs
<apeiros> a) change the order, or b) remove your local/bin ruby install, or c) matthewd might have c, I don't :D
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<apeiros> asking for a friend - any recommendations for GUI toolkits with ruby on mac? I told him to try Qt, but I don't really know/use GUI toolkits…
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<iloveitaly> apeiros: he should use the native toolkit (cocoa/UIKit)
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<apeiros> hm, that immediate quit is unfortunate, wanted to ask how to use that with ruby… I'll google.
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<adaedra> a long time ago, there was macruby with cocoa bindings
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<apeiros> yeah, sadly long time ago…
<adaedra> last time I tried, GUI applications and Ruby did not go together that well
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<apeiros> hey hanmac, you surely know this - flonums are immediates, right?
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<apeiros> also, y u no #ruby-offtopic? :-D
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<gizmore> flawless.... thingy
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<hanmac> apeiros you mean if they can be changed? hm just ask the bot:
<hanmac> >> (3.4).frozen?
<ruby[bot]> hanmac: # => true (https://eval.in/794822)
<hanmac> bot says no
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<somiaj> I'm looking into using rvm to install ruby on centos6.9. I like the single user install that doesn't require root, but was wondering if I could specifiy which directory it was installed to and if other users who could read that directory could run ruby without having to do a system install with root.
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<apeiros> hanmac: no, I mean the value is stored in the object id
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<hanmac> apeiros: ah that is what you mean. FLONUM is fixed means 3.4.object_id is always the same ... BUT you need 64bit for that to work
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<alex88> hi there, someone still using aws sdk v1? I've the latest 1.x version and I with this config, https://gist.github.com/alex88/dc4a94a996a0a44f4d574a3767b68dd9 connection still waits 120 second before saying there has been a timeout in the request, any idea why?
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<alex88> oh nvm
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<excph> Hello I heard in Ruby it's possible to write bug free apps ?? is that true ??
<Papierkorb> excph: indeed, and here I present you one: `exit`
<Papierkorb> Save that as "orly.rb" and run it
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<Radar> excph: yes, I can show you a bug free app
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<Radar> I wrote one
<Radar> Are you ready for it?
<Radar> I admit the code might be hard for some people to understand
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