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<morfin> ok, i am going to try this gem again...
<morfin> i remember that somehow managed to install gem manually
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<user3> hi everyone
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<user3> i need of little help
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<user3> i have read that when statement in ruby is an equivalent of ===() but when i try to use it with an if-else and comparing an Net::HTTPResponse object with Net::HTTPSuccess work only with when statement, so in what they differs ? (im sorry for my bad english)
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<handicraftsman> Merry ruby 2.5.0!
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<matthewd> user3: The order of the comparison is significant; you probably need it the other way around
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<matthewd> user3: `case x when y` is equivalent to `if y === x`
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<dminuoso> o/ matthewd
<dminuoso> You were assumed to have died in a horrible accident.
<matthewd> o/
<dminuoso> Your absence was noted!
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<matthewd> Nothing quite that exciting.. been busy getting up to speed at new job
<dminuoso> What do you do at your new job?
<matthewd> Currently, a Rails upgrade; 3.2 to .. something newer
<dminuoso> :(
<dminuoso> Sounds.. exciting...
<matthewd> It's a good way to get a handle on the codebase while doing something I'm already familiar with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<user3> matthewd no, i have make the comparison in the same order, but dosn't matter anymore
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<nofxx> 2.5.0 today? reverse order backtrace finally?
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<nofxx> Trying to convert this snippet, missing something =/, -> https://gist.github.com/nofxx/9b2ea3f3a0629fd7012cd4610ddd335d
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<dminuoso> nofxx: Yeah its missing Rubyism.
<dminuoso> You dont have to handcraft HTTP frames in Ruby. ;o
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<nofxx> dminuoso, just found out: was #hexdigest vs #digest. But what do you mean?
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<nofxx> that's just one header, I'm using Net::HTTP::Post
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<nofxx> it's a crazy auth thing, I'm not creating the http frame
<dminuoso> Oh. Just looked as if you were kind of reimplementing that PHP Script line by line..
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<nofxx> dminuoso, sorry made you look (PHP) but it's good sometimes, you can't know happiness if you don't know sadness said the poet
<dminuoso> nofxx: I have no issues with PHP really.
<dminuoso> As long as languages like PHP or Go exist, those braindead monkeys asking really stupid questions have their own channel, sub-reddit and SO tags.
<nofxx> dminuoso, I prefer $ before my numbers, is my common answer. But the dollar thing was nasty, this -> everywwhere thing is absurd
<dminuoso> nofxx: Honestly the visuals is the smallest thing. Ruby has some horrid things on its own, but its not really a meaningful factor in the quality of a language.
<nofxx> disagree... visuals is great, at a glance you get a lot from (well written) ruby code
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<nofxx> also read it out loud™
<nofxx> remember Why? heh
<dminuoso> Yeah no..
<dminuoso> `unless` is one of the worst perversions in Ruby.
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<dminuoso> When your code is designed to read like a natural language, it leads to poorer abstractions.
<nofxx> dminuoso, got an example of horrid ruby structure?
<dminuoso> nofxx: Mostly everything revolving around method calls, optional/non-optional parens, blocks/hash
<dminuoso> Its nothing I get worked up over, but its not clean
<dminuoso> nofxx: and then there's small things that Ive began to hate like how Ruby has poor support for real first-class functions.
<dminuoso> But that I've addressed in a library. Now I can actually do arr.map(f) :=)
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<nofxx> yeah, singletons are ugly... parens could be consensus in your team, but w/o args kinda urgly. And blocks are nice, dunno a better way heh
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<nofxx> what's that library?
<dminuoso> Not published yet
<dminuoso> Its basically a better version of https://github.com/lazebny/ramda-ruby
<dminuoso> One that offers core extensions to patch.. basically anything that takes a block.
<dminuoso> (anything that takes a block but not a lambda/proc)
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<dminuoso> That library suffers from multiple problems (which also arise from Ruby issues)
<dminuoso> l.() is an annoyance
<dminuoso> and when you have to do l.(a).(b).. well lets just say I curry "the right way™"
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<dminuoso> So you can do l.(a, b) regardless of l's arity (and being a lambda)
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<mohamed> hello
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<dminuoso> o/
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<dionysus69> hey all
<eragon> hi
<dionysus69> does anyone know how does p2p file transfer work technically? I am most interested in how can parts of file be downloaded from multiple sources at once and then combined
<dminuoso> dionysus69: The mechanisms differ.
<Papierkorb> dionysus69: the Torrent protocol is publicly documented
<dionysus69> how complex would it be to build something like that in ruby, say one pc is downloading 1 file from 2 other pc-s should I start from there? :S
<Papierkorb> Nothing to do much with Ruby
<dionysus69> after that, tracker lists and stuff like that is piece of cake
<dminuoso> Do you want to implement an existing algorithm or roll your own?
<dionysus69> just roll my own from ground up
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<dminuoso> dionysus69: I recommend implementing some existing ones first.
<dminuoso> Just to give you an idea of how some of the problems are implemented.
<dionysus69> thing is I want to create such tool so I can build stuff on top of it, crypto world influence here hehe
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<dminuoso> This should give you an idea of how BT works.
<dionysus69> thanks allot, cause I was looking for implementing from scratch articles/tutorials and results werent that helpful
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<dionysus69> there's divmod but it doesnt show how many times the divisor fits in the the number it is dividing
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<dionysus69> ok nvm I am just sleepy
<dminuoso> >> 10.divmod 3
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso: # => [3, 1] (https://eval.in/924812)
<dionysus69> yep, just realized, I am just unable to clearly think atm xD
<dionysus69> its a handy method, just found out about it ^.^
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<dionysus69> dminuoso: sorry for ping but this is cool :D https://gist.github.com/webzorg/0723e58ddce6b99bf6f711cbcd6387cc
<dionysus69> I just created a download accelerator, and an important part of p2p file transfer :)
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<gizmore> self.tap{|o|o.no}
<gizmore> looking forward to ruby5
<gizmore> merry xmas too
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