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<hays> is there a built-in way to make .each work on a class where I just want it to refer to an internal hash implementation?
<hays> im trying to avoid subclassing Hash
<phaul> delegation
<dminuoso> hays: def each
<dminuoso> hays: alias_method
<dminuoso> hays: SimpleDelegator
<seydar> hays: `include Enumerable`
<seydar> define each and then you get everything else
<dminuoso> hays: method_missing, set_trace_func
<seydar> although in retrospect maybe that wasn't what you were asking
<dminuoso> So many funky ways to hook into your methods!
<hays> here's sample code
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<hays> which will hopefully make it clearer what I am aming for
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<phaul> you probably don't want to subclass Hash. There was an interesting JimW presentation where the moral of the story was why you almost never want to subclass stuff like Array/Hash
<phaul> he ended up delegating for FileLists instead of subclassing Array.
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<phaul> I think it was this
<dminuoso> 1 hour to tell that subtying is bad?
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<phaul> there are other examples in there too, like the fight he had with BlankSlate
<phaul> this is prior BasicObject times...
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<hays> hmm.
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<hays> so I guess just def_delegators :@values, :each
<hays> using Forwardable
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<devpolish> Hi guys
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<mr-robert> hey devpolish
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<Londino> Hello everybody
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<Londino> While this line `from_date = from_date.gsub("/","-")` works flawlessly when inside irb, it gives me a `NoMethodError: undefined method `gsub' for nil:NilClass` when run from within a watir/rspec script.
<Londino> What could be the possible culprit here?
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<Londino> Judging from the error, from_date seems to have a nil value but why does this not happen in irb??
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<phaul> al2o3-cr: it's mostly over my head, but I tracked down when it got into ruby and what issue was it associated with. Have a read of this https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11278, maybe you can make more sense of it than I can.
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<al2o3-cr> oooh, taking a look now
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<phaul> the code clearly makes an explicit distinction here https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/proc.c#L1951 but I dont pretend to understand why :)
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<al2o3-cr> i just copied RBasic flags from module to class and it works
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<al2o3-cr> so yeah it's something to do with this
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<dminuoso> al2o3-cr: Regarding your earlier question
<phaul> al2o3-cr: I kept diggin, this feature / matz' comment is more relevant https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4254#note-10
<dminuoso> al2o3-cr: Subtyping sucks.
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<dminuoso> And transplanting methods is even worse. :|
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<phaul> dminuoso: yeah, I just learnt the suprising ways super worked in modules. principal of "least surprise", right :)
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<dminuoso> phaul: What interesting bits did you discover?
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<phaul> modules without superclass support super in their methods.
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<dminuoso> phaul: What effect?
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<phaul> the including class will take over
<dminuoso> Ah to no surprise.
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<dminuoso> >> 1.class.ancestors
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso: # => [Fixnum, Integer, Numeric, Comparable, Object, Kernel, BasicObject] (https://eval.in/983004)
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<dminuoso> phaul: super just continues lookup in the ancestory chain. :)
<dminuoso> (not the strict super chain)
<dminuoso> phaul: Which is actually the principle of least surprise, yes.
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<phaul> right. i guess. now when you explain it that way :)
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<al2o3-cr> thanks.
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<phaul> the only thing is that the module where super is has no idea what super refers to :)
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<dminuoso> phaul: Ive come to the conclusion that mixins on their own are bad design/
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<dminuoso> phaul: The main thing you have to remember, is that everything in ruby is dynamic.
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<dminuoso> phaul: the _real_ confusing thing is, the difference between super and super()
<dminuoso> ;)
<dminuoso> that has cost me the better part of a day of debugging once..
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<Guest14032> How can search rubygems for ruby-version compatability?
<Guest14032> ie: install rubocop for ruby2.0, without walking the the versions back one by one?
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<Zarthus> typically it specifies a required ruby version >= $version; then just go back to whichever tag supports your version
<Zarthus> https://rubygems.org/gems/rubocop/versions/0.29.0 (just a random version)
<dminuoso> Oh my. It's a Zarthus! :o
<Zarthus> what up
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<mistertim> Hey there folks. an ultra basic question but my google-fu is proving weak for some reason. I’ve installed ruby from source on a centos box (i need a specific version) - and the header files have been installed into /usr/local/include - however when i go to install any gems which build native extensions, mkmf.rb fails because its looking for the headers in /usr/share. Any idea how to set the location for these? thank you!
<darix> mistertim: are you using the gem from that custom ruby install?
<mistertim> ooooh now that’s a good question
<mistertim> which gem suggests so
<mistertim> aha no!
<mistertim> you’re absolutely righ
<mistertim> sudo gem uses /bin/gem not /usr/local/bin/gem. That’s the problem. thank you!
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<Guest14032> Zarthus: Is there any way to see that from the command line?
<Guest14032> Like, without hopping out to the webpage/
<Zarthus> proably
<Guest14032> s/\//?/
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<Zarthus> i can't imagine rubygems not offering an api
<Guest14032> Zarthus: I can't imagine it not EVENTUALLY offering that in an api or the cli command, but I can easily imagine that being overlooked for a long time ;)
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<Zarthus> Guest14032: i think it's open source
<Zarthus> and in the end, everything is in the Gemfile (although rubygems probably loops through all dependencies too)
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<the_f0ster> What is a good pattern to access a child member var from a parent method?
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<dminuoso> the_f0ster: There is none.
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<phaul> does this mean parent method being the caller and child method being the callee ?
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<dminuoso> phaul: I read this as "access some propery that a descendant has introduced from an ancestor"
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<phaul> I agree it makes more sense to interpret it that way. but it's still pretty unclear
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<phaul> actually ignore me, reading it again, i just simply misunderstood the question ...
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<apeiros> >> class A; def b2; @b ** 2; end; end; class B < A; def initialize(b); @b = b; end; end; B.new.b2 # the_f0ster
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => wrong number of arguments (given 0, expected 1) (ArgumentError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/983060)
<the_f0ster> dminuoso: well I could do it reflexively on the instance from teh parent method right ?
<apeiros> >> class A; def b2; @b ** 2; end; end; class B < A; def initialize(b); @b = b; end; end; B.new(4).b2 # the_f0ster
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => 16 (https://eval.in/983061)
<dminuoso> the_f0ster: Dont.
<dminuoso> the_f0ster: There's just so many things _WRONG_ with that.
<the_f0ster> thats why im looking for suggestsions cause i know there are many ways to do it
<the_f0ster> ty apeiros
<apeiros> it doesn't matter where a method is defined
<dminuoso> Sighs. I refused to give you that answer because you are breaking design contracts and making this horrible.
<apeiros> it only matters in what context it is invoked.
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<apeiros> dminuoso: abstract class patterns work that way. there are IMO legitimate use cases.
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<the_f0ster> this is super simple apeiros, so just using instance vars
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<apeiros> but the_f0ster, dminuoso does have a point. chances are that you're using a bad pattern. maybe explain a bit more and we can show you a more elegant solution?
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<the_f0ster> apeiros dminuoso, a coworker was asking me basically how to accomplish this.. I've used abstract classes and interfaces in other languges but wasnt sure how to do this in ruby. our codebase has lots of instance vars and inheritance it is hard to test TBH
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<dminuoso> the_f0ster: It's a smell your design is wrong if you want to do this in the first place.
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<dminuoso> the_f0ster: Perhaps you means to use mixins rather than inheritance?
<the_f0ster> dminuoso: yeah perhaps, something like the concern pattern? I wouldnt deny that our code has many design problems and is hard to test/read/edit:D
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<dminuoso> But perhaps this is just a casual "subtyping is bad" rage of mine.
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<masterasia> what on earth is a gemrc?
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<the_f0ster> dminuoso: in general a lot the inheritance I encounter is messy and not necessary and could be done better with composition IMO, but just growing pains
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<apeiros> masterasia: iirc it's read by rubygems and can provide options/config.
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<masterasia> is it only used when building a gem?
<masterasia> or do applications use it as well
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<apeiros> masterasia: I think all invocations of the gem command use it
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<mikhael_k33hl> How do I exit the application along with all the threads it may have created? I tried using Thread.list.each do |thread| thread.kill end, but upon checking, I still have the process running along with a subprocess {ruby-timer-thr}
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