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<stephenmac7> Hey, I was wondering if it is possible to create a class with a single instance?
<Zarthus> Singletons are generally considered an antipattern
<Zarthus> but yes, you can google for the ruby docs for singletons.
<Zarthus> (though I think it still permits more than one instance? not sure if that's the case in ruby or if it'll raise)
<stephenmac7> Well, if you can think of a better way to do this, I would be happy.
<stephenmac7> I'm trying to simulate an algebraic data type, and the best way I can think of is singletons
<stephenmac7> Until now I have done Name = Struct.new('Name').new, but I feel like that's kind of messy
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<fredlinhares> stephenmac7: I would create a instance of Object and then add singleton methods to it.
<stephenmac7> fredlinhares: I don't need it to have any methods. I just want to be able to match against it in an if/case statement
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Singleton!
<havenwood> &ri Singleton
<havenwood> stephenmac7: If there's no state, module. One instance of state, singleton. Multiple instances of state, class.
<stephenmac7> I need absolutely no state, but if I have a module, it won't match in a case statement, right?
<stephenmac7> If I have `module Test; end`, then `Test === Test` is not true
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<stephenmac7> havenwood: Looks like Singleton is made for something else
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Say more about what you're trying to do/
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Ah, I kinda see what you're saying.
<stephenmac7> I'm trying to simulate a sum type. I have a class that outputs a list of actions for some other piece of code to do and sometimes more information has to be provided than just what action needs to be performed
<havenwood> stephenmac7: I don't quite follow.
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Show the code you have so far? That might give context.
<havenwood> >> module Test; class << self; alias === == end end; Test === Test
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
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<havenwood> #=> true
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<havenwood> stephenmac7: You can define threequals yourself, but I suspect there's a better way.
<havenwood> I just don't quite grasp why you're doing what you're doing to know what to recommend.
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<stephenmac7> havenwood: This is what I have. It does what I want but I feel like it's bad: https://gist.github.com/stephenmac7/b23d29f4730d05fcfe75aadcba74aea2
<havenwood> stephenmac7: It's nicer to do structs like: Action = Struct.new :to
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Often nicer yet, with Ruby 2.5: Action. = Struct.new :to, keyword_init: true
<Zarthus> what about just using symbols for this?
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Then you can Action.new(to: 'Reduce')
<Zarthus> Isn't essentially what you want just a constant?
<stephenmac7> Zarthus: That's exactly what I was doing originally. But then I needed to have one that has a value associated with it.
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<stephenmac7> But yes, all I want is a named constant that is its own type
<havenwood> stephenmac7: All types are Object.
<havenwood> There is one type.
<stephenmac7> havenwood: The Action is just meant to be a super-class so that Action === Reduce, Action === Increase, Action === Switch.new('something)
<havenwood> stephenmac7: Ahhh
<stephenmac7> Sorry, class.
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<stephenmac7> (and then also Reduce === Reduce, Increase === Increase, Switch === Switch.new("Something") )
<havenwood> I like how influences from other languages lead to different ways of trying to do things.
<havenwood> We live in the frontier of code.
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<Zarthus> I would still prefer a method with text in ruby
<stephenmac7> Yeah, it is interesting. Ruby kind of lets you do everything.
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<stephenmac7> Zarthus: What do you mean?
<Zarthus> .identical? over ===, but that's just me bikeshedding
<stephenmac7> The text shows which method is doing the comparison
<al2o3-cr> === is case equality
<stephenmac7> === was always confusing to me since it looks like it should be symmetric, but isn't. It's not always the case that X === Y <=> Y === X
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<Zarthus> oh, === is an actual operator
<Zarthus> I... was unaware.
<havenwood> stephenmac7: threequals in ruby is just meant as a match operator - it's used by case, etc
<havenwood> stephenmac7: It's not meant to be used directly
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<havenwood> it's kinda inverted from expectation
<stephenmac7> havenwood: Yeah, I'm using it for case. Looks like someone wrote a gem doing what I'm looking for, but I feel like adding a gem is overkill: https://github.com/txus/adts
<havenwood> stephenmac7: another take: http://dry-rb.org/gems/dry-types/
<havenwood> stephenmac7: I don't like using it for case like your example, just because it has an assumed, existing assumed meaning.
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<havenwood> Long day, I'm sounding like a broken markov chain.
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<havenwood> Happy Freyja's day!!
* havenwood rides off on a chariot pulled by cats ...
<al2o3-cr> i don't blame ya!
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<Zarthus> havenwood: Shit I'm only a third into this article and I feel like something going seriously wrong here.
<havenwood> stephenmac7: This is a little-known project that actually has a chance of making it into Ruby: https://github.com/soutaro/steep#steep---gradual-typing-for-ruby
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<stephenmac7> dry-types is pretty cool. Too bad my boss probably wouldn't go for it
<havenwood> (You declare gradual types in a .rbi file, parallel to your code.)
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<havenwood> The future is steeping!
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<stephenmac7> Really? I really hope it does. contracts is kind of similar, but this can be done statically
<al2o3-cr> 5 wayz
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<al2o3-cr> >> %i[[] () === call yield].map { |m| -> {"whoa"}.send m rescue "fuck" }
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: OpenURI::HTTPError:500 Internal Server Error
<al2o3-cr> >> %i[[] () === call yield].map { |m| -> {"whoa"}.send m rescue "fuck" }
<havenwood> #=> ["whoa", "bleep", "whoa", "whoa", "whoa"]
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<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: OpenURI::HTTPError:500 Internal Server Error
<al2o3-cr> hehe havenwood =P
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<havenwood> al2o3-cr: Human interpreters have quirks.
<al2o3-cr> haha ;)
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<stephenmac7> Seems Matz doesn't like types
<al2o3-cr> stephenmac7: your right there.
<stephenmac7> Well, guess I'm going to have to stick with what I have for now, or redefine ===. Thank you all for your help.
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<al2o3-cr> why have types in a dynamic language, ffs.
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: the lines between dynamic and static and interpreted and compiled are blurring
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<al2o3-cr> ruby is dynamic
<al2o3-cr> and interpreted.
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<havenwood> ruby will be dynamic and static, interpreted and compiled
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: it comes from a dynamic heritage, but what will it become?
<al2o3-cr> havenwood: it will always be a dynamic language. same as python, javashit, lua etc...
<Zarthus> which of the two javas is javashit
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: maybe there will be a new name, gradual langs
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: maybe
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: statically, dynamically or gradually typed - it gets fuzzy
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: it's a spectrum
<havenwood> or at least it's becoming one
<al2o3-cr> not in that sense.
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: Compiled languages can now be interpreted. Interpreted languages can be compiled. It's getting very fuzzy.
<al2o3-cr> say C needs types for compiling.
<havenwood> I think sulong is one good example of compiled langs becoming interpreted: https://github.com/graalvm/sulong
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<al2o3-cr> ruby doesn't need it.
<havenwood> And SVM is an example of compiling a binary from dynamic languages with closed-world analysis: https://github.com/oracle/graal/tree/master/substratevm
<al2o3-cr> crystal language and all that. bullshit.
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: Have you seen Ruby Packer?: https://github.com/pmq20/ruby-packer
<al2o3-cr> no, but i'll take a look
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: It shockingly works. ;-)
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<havenwood> I guess I should say it squashingly works.
<al2o3-cr> seems legit.
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<havenwood> al2o3-cr: Sulong can interpret Fortran. We live in a crazy age.
<al2o3-cr> lua is fast, and luajit is even faster (mike pall is a legend)
<havenwood> mruby was born of lua envy, after all
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<al2o3-cr> sure ;)
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<havenwood> public service reminder: use monotonic time when measuring duration!
<al2o3-cr> the simplest language of them all. mighty as fuck!
<havenwood> Process.clock_gettime Process::CLOCK_MONOTONIC, :nanosecond #=> 154271769675000
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: always use monotonic
<havenwood> Or in JRuby: java.lang.System.nanoTime()
<al2o3-cr> never used jruby ;(
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<headius> havenwood: we impl monotonic with nanotime
<havenwood> headius: oooh, interesting
<havenwood> headius: awesome, that's great
<headius> I think I traced it down into the guts of JVM and that's basically what it's doing
<havenwood> nice
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<havenwood> al2o3-cr: I haven't had much of a chance to benchmark it, but checkout JRuby on Graal! https://i.imgur.com/VL9WoCf.png
<al2o3-cr> yeah will do
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<headius> huh, there's no clock_gettime specs
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: https://eval.in/1030023
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: what do you get? ;)
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<al2o3-cr> headius: what os?
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<al2o3-cr> >> [115, 105, 103, 110, 105, 110, 103, 32, 111, 102, 102].inject("", :<<)
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<headius> al2o3-cr: I'm on macOS but I was referring to ruby/spec
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<headius> >> RUBY_ENGINE
<ruby[bot]> headius: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<al2o3-cr> ah, i see now.
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<headius> ruby[bot]: help
<al2o3-cr> headius: no worries :)
<headius> guess not
<al2o3-cr> the bots got the flu
<al2o3-cr> >> [115, 105, 103, 110, 105, 110, 103, 32, 111, 102, 102].inject("", :<<)
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: OpenURI::HTTPError:500 Internal Server Error
<al2o3-cr> >> [115, 105, 103, 110, 105, 110, 103, 32, 111, 102, 102].inject("", :<<)
<ruby[bot]> al2o3-cr: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: OpenURI::HTTPError:500 Internal Server Error
<al2o3-cr> it needs to rest
<al2o3-cr> o/
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<thelounge88> .
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<gizmore> i wonder if havenwood is awake
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<gizmore> havenwood: https://github.com/gizmore/gdo/blob/master/spec/gdo_spec.rb#L214 (wrote my own session manager with rack)
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<myndzi> anyone familiar with the parallel gem?
<myndzi> i'm not familiar with threading, and i'm trying to process a big bunch of data by streaming gzipped files from s3 to a tempfile on disk and then reuploading them. i'm concerned that if i try to speed it up with parallel processes i might wind up corrupting stuff
<myndzi> it seems likely to be well-behaved, but i don't know how to be sure... any advice?
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<gizmore> myndzi: only hint i can give is that Thread.current[hash] can be used to store thread specific data
<gizmore> like Thread.current[:gizmore_foo] = Haha.new
<gizmore> for thread variables
<gizmore> :)
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<apeiros_> myndzi: sounds like an IO bound problem, not CPU bound. how do you intend to parallelize it?
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<gizmore> I wonder what nickname Matz would choose
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<cout> is there a name for the idiom "if __FILE__ == $0" ?
<cout> I know what it does, but in conversation, it's a mouthful
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<Zarthus> the executable/binary?
<ellcs1> binary sounds wrong to me.
<Zarthus> sure but it doesn't stop us from putting it in the bin/ folder
<ellcs1> hahah
<ellcs1> can't argue that
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<cout> perhaps it's time to invent a bacronym for bin
<Zarthus> what's a bacronym?
<Zarthus> is that an acronym bweaver came up with?
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<cout> you might spell it "backronym"
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<cout> it's where you take an existing word and turn it into an acronym, rather than inventing an acronym from scratch
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<gizmore> i wrote an own event lib with docs in 70 lines Oo
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* sidntrivedi012 says Hello to evryone
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* Zarthus gets greeted.
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<pvsukale> hii anybody here
<pvsukale> ??
<elomatreb> About 667 other people, yes
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<elomatreb> hi
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<pvsukale> I have been working through Bob Nystorm's booking crafting interpreters. http://craftinginterpreters.com/ In the first part of book he develops a tree walk interpreter for small language using Java.
<pvsukale> I wanted to write that interpreter in ruby. Just to learn more about ruby
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<pvsukale> Which parts of Ruby I should practice/ learn about before going through this book?
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<Zarthus> if you're new to ruby, don't port a java program to ruby
<Zarthus> Ruby has different conventions, shortcuts, libraries etc. that don't translate to java, or from java to ruby.
<Zarthus> Get a ruby book. Learn Ruby, not Ruby as a Java developer
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<konsolebox> left too soon
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<Zarthus> Naturally.
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<clemens3_> Actually as a Java programmer interested in Ruby you can start with JRuby and use all the Java librariers you are familiar with, and over time learn more of the ruby side..
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<samosaphile> hey anyone around?
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<FernandoBasso> Listen to the silence.
<FernandoBasso> The silence of the lambs.
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<myndzi> apeiros_: the cpu is pegged on gunzip and processing the lines
<myndzi> i intend to just run one file per thread/process/whatever
<myndzi> it's already structured in a way that should make it easy to, say, bundle up the context needed to know what to do and with what file; the only writing/updating of data needed is writing to the temp file after processing
<myndzi> but the libraries in use (zlib, aws-sdk) are black boxes to me so i don't know how to hedge my bets against problems
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<myndzi> each file takes about 2.5 minutes so i'm okay with a little overhead in exchange for "being sure"; like, if i use "in_processes" and turn on isolation, which forks a new worker for each iteration, is there any chance of a problem?
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<lupine> ahhhhhh. brakeman got borged
<lupine> suddenly it all makes sense
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<konsolebox> lupine: ?
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<lupine> konsolebox: they changed to a CC-NC license recently
<lupine> turns out that's because they were bought out
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<konsolebox> lupine: who?
<lupine> it's what you get for having an MIT ecosystem, I guess
<konsolebox> lupine: i see..
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<cjfn> if I have a directory of plugin classes, plugins/*.rb
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<cjfn> is there a way to programatically get all the classes in those files?
<cjfn> they'll have the same name space, X::Y::Z::Plugin1, X::Y::Z::Plugin2, etc
<cjfn> should I just grab all the constants from X::Y::Z?
<cjfn> but that grabs other constants that aren't plugins
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<konsolebox> cjfn: afaik, there's no way to selectively load classes in a file
<cjfn> hm okay
<konsolebox> cjfn: however if classes were defined in files that match their filename, a concept called autoloading can be applied, just like guides.rubyonrails.org/autoloading_and_reloading_constants.htm
<cjfn> neat
<cjfn> I'll take a look, thanks konsolebox!
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<konsolebox> cjfn: there may be other libraries besides rails that can allow you to do this
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<bjpenn> is there a way to get rvm to install current ruby specified in .ruby-version?
<bjpenn> right now im just manually seeing whats specified in the file and then running the standard rvm install <version> here
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