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<apeiros_>
not strictly limited to ruby - anybody here with experience with building and maintaining integration layers? any recommendations on what to read the topic? pitfalls you experienced? things you'd do differently today than you did before?
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<apeiros>
*lolsob*, ---of course--- %p is *lowercase* am/pm while %P is *uppercase*. seriously, that decision, wtf?
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<tbuehlmann>
apeiros: you mean the other way around?
<apeiros>
lol. yes, indeed I do.
<apeiros>
%p -> AM/PM, %P -> am/pm.
<tbuehlmann>
heh, that's unexpected
<apeiros>
so unexpected that I even messed it up in my rant 😂
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<kasot>
hi, are there any guidelines for how to work with namespaces when creating frameworks in ruby?
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<kasot>
my framework will need to "autoload" _controller, for example
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<kasot>
that is: PostController, while my ApplicationController is defined in the module FrameworkName
<apeiros>
not sure what you're looking for. the most important guideline re namespaces is: have the smallest possible footprint in the toplevel namespace.
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<apeiros>
apart from that, the only other guideline is the name/file mapping: Foo::BarBaz should be loadable via require "foo/bar_baz"
<kasot>
so, are the conventions for how FrameworkName::App to register PostController < FrameworkName::ApplicationController
<apeiros>
no
<kasot>
yeah, I know guidelines for namespaces generally
<apeiros>
there are patterns, but no guidelines.
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<apeiros>
also IMO you shouldn't enforce a parent class
<kasot>
yeah, makes sense
<kasot>
use include/extend instead?
<apeiros>
for example, yes
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<kasot>
ok, generally, do you think application code using a framework should not be namespaced in a module?
<kasot>
that is, the framework can look for *Controller in the global namespace?
<kasot>
I guess that is how rails does it
<apeiros>
see top guideline. I think it absolutely should be namespaced.
<apeiros>
and since your application usually has a name, it makes sense to use that name as toplevel namespace.
<apeiros>
you IMO absolutely should NOT put stuff in the toplevel namespace.
<kasot>
right, so then... somehow... that module/application name should be sent to the framework, and the framework will look for classes/constants in that namespace
<apeiros>
(apart from that single namespace your project/app/gem/engine/plugin/whatever defines)
<kasot>
yeah, I can agree with that :)
<apeiros>
"and the framework will look for" that's where we are in the patterns world. there are multiple ways for how to do that.
<apeiros>
* implicit via hooks (class YourApp::SomeController < YourFramework::AbstractController --> def YourFramework::AbstractController.inherited(by_controller); …register by_controller… -- same can be done via Module#included, #extended, #prepended)
<apeiros>
* implicit via scanning: YourApp::Controllers.constants.map { |c| YourApp::Controllers.const_get(c) }.select(&:controller?)
<apeiros>
there are probably more. maybe even some I'd know about but forgot right now :D
<kasot>
yeah, too many options for this in ruby :)
<kasot>
Im guessing something explicit makes sense as a start
<apeiros>
personally I've used the first two. if I did the 2nd, it was usually by actually having 1st implemented and invoking that explicit registration callback as a convenience if you followed a set pattern (e.g. used "extend AbstractThingy")
<apeiros>
brb
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<kasot>
does this problem have a name?
<kasot>
I find it hard to google
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<apeiros>
it's a kind of registry system
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<kapil___>
`010 > help String.gsub` not working
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<havenwood>
kapil___: In IRB?
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<kapil___>
yes
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<apeiros>
kapil___: what?
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<kapil___>
i need help for the String.gsub function
<apeiros>
ok.
<apeiros>
but you will have to elaborate if you want help.
<kapil___>
how to get help of function inside irb?
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<apeiros>
help "String.gsub"
<apeiros>
or open another window and type `ri String#gsub`
<apeiros>
without the ``
<apeiros>
and actually it should have been String#gsub instead of String.gsub up there too (. will work, but # to denote instance methods is better)
<kapil___>
apeiros: thanks
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<alex``>
What is the most recommended between array.flatten and array.reduce(:+)?
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<alex``>
numbers = lines.map do |line|
<alex``>
line.agents.map(&:number)
<alex``>
end.flatten.sort
<alex``>
s/sort/uniq/
<havenwood>
alex``: In modern Ruby, #sum.
<havenwood>
alex``: Also, #flat_map is like a #map followed by a #flatten(1).
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<alex``>
havenwood: Wow thanks
<alex``>
#sum is like #reduce(:+) ?
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<alex``>
which version of Ruby has #sum?
<alex``>
2.5.1 here
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<havenwood>
alex``: Ruby 2.4.+
<havenwood>
alex``: It's more like a more efficient version of: reduce(0, :+)
<Eiam>
apeiros_: could you elaborate a bit on what you mean by integration layers?
<havenwood>
alex``: Ah, then flat_map
<alex``>
Thanks :')
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<apeiros_>
Eiam: I wish I could 😓. basically we (for a rather stretched definition of "we") have decided that we need an integration layer in order to attach 3rd party applications and legacy applications in our infrastructure. the scale is ~20 applications/services (where the number of services is supposed to go up by ~20 if we extract all the stuff from our beautiful monolith)
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<apeiros>
but as to what that IL should be capable of - we're not really sure. we're still very early in the discovery phase of what we actually need.
<Eiam>
and this is to look for regressions in 3rd party and legacy products as you are integrating forward changes?
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<alex``>
havenwood: did you write your article / CLI gem?
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<havenwood>
alex``: Not yet! I was at Rails Camp last week and now I'm at Droidcon NY. I betcha I'll have time this weekend though.
<havenwood>
P.S. - Go to a Rails Camp! Summer camp for Rubyists. :-)
<apeiros>
Eiam: it's more to connect 3rd party apps, not for regression testing
<apeiros>
and yes, it's in order to enable a switch towards a more service/microservice oriented architecture
<apeiros>
i.e. enable forward changes
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<Eiam>
hm. Okay. My day job involves this but not for web apps or micro services, its for actual native apps and the host platform
<Eiam>
so I'm not sure my experiences would directly map
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<apeiros>
I'm not sure there'll ever be experiences which map directly :D
<apeiros>
pm?
<Eiam>
yup lets do it, I never see anyone stumbling into my domain =)
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<z64>
within the ruby stdlib, is there a more efficient way (performance) of `JSON.parse #=> Hash` -> `MyObject.new(hash)`?
<apeiros>
z64: afaik you can pass JSON an option what to use for Array and Hashes
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<z64>
oh, how didn't i see that option. alright. i'm not sure what my types needs to implement but i'll try that
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<z64>
`#[]=` it looks like
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<z64>
hmm yeah i don't think https://carc.in/#/r/4txe will work for us.. what i really want is to drive the parser myself (a pull parser), but `JSON::Ext::Parser` only exposes `#parse`
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<knight33>
I've got a small ruby app that runs on Windows. Anyone know of a gem I can use to monitor it? I don't know the terminology, but I'm trying to get the program to send requests out, and a service monitors that (versus the service sending requests to the app). This is cause the IP will always be changing.
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<baweaver>
Don't remember all the potential services for it, but I wouldn't go reinventing it either if there's a good one for Windows that already exists.
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<href>
baweaver: yeah there's a shitton of dyndns services out there :)
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<baweaver>
iirc there were routers that'd allow you to hook up to one too.
<href>
a reverse dns is something to ”link” an IP to an hostname; and goes in two part, a PTR entry in the arpa zone to point the ip back to the hostname; & the hostname to the ip
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<LACampbell>
I have a bunch of strings like this "\"hello\r\n\"". IE, it's double quoted. how can I flatten them out?
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<apeiros>
LACampbell: to clarify, if you'd use the string as an argument to `puts`, would you want to see "hello" (with a CRLF at the end), or \"hello\r\n\"?
<LACampbell>
Just hello. i suppose I won't break anything if I just chain a bunch of gsubs on them actually
<apeiros>
then how did you end up with "\"hello\r\n\"" in the first place?
<LACampbell>
it's from an http response
<apeiros>
I think there's still some crucial information missing
<LACampbell>
what's missing? I have a large collection of strings that are double formatted
<LACampbell>
I think I overcomplicated it, ".gsub("\"", "").gsub("\r", "").gsub("\n", "") will work
<apeiros>
I think fixing the code procuring the data would be better. at least it very much seems like that's where something is off.
<LACampbell>
I can't fix the API end point (:
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<miah>
i think you could just .strip it to remove that trailing \r\n as well
<al2o3-cr>
"\"hello\r\n\"".undump.strip probably.
<apeiros>
LACampbell: are you sure you're not getting something like JSON from that API back and "forgot" to parse it?
<LACampbell>
apeiros: no, I'm parsing the raw body of it
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<apeiros>
care to paste the full raw body of a genuine response?
<LACampbell>
Http.request(r).body
<apeiros>
or even the full response so we can see the headers
<LACampbell>
"\"The 'HerdType' element is invalid - The value '' is invalid according to its datatype 'HerdType' - The Enumeration constraint failed.\""
<al2o3-cr>
LACampbell: i'd use str.undump.rstrip
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<al2o3-cr>
for that anyway.
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<apeiros>
definitively more sane than the gsubs. an end-point which seems to return the inspect value of a string (or similar). what a weird API.
<LACampbell>
undump must be a new method, I don't have it