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<riceandbeans> Hey, stupid question, forgive me
<riceandbeans> I'm trying to port a gem that works on other OSes to make sure it works on my OS
<riceandbeans> I cloned the git repo and I'm doing work with it, but I want to make the code using the gem default to my git repo to validate it's actually working as intended
<riceandbeans> It's a component sucked into Rails so I just want the ONE gem to be subbed out
<riceandbeans> What's the best way to go about doing that
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<edwardthefma> Sup all
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<baweaver_away> riceandbeans: If you read up on gemfiles you'll see there's an option for specifying git, specific branches, tags, or even local files.
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<baweaver> It's quite useful for testing things locally.
<baweaver> _Especially_ if you happen to sub it out with your environment (if Rails.env.development use these mocks instead of the real framework)
<baweaver> edwardthefma: alo
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<edwardthefma> Hi
<baweaver> Where's Al?
<edwardthefma> He is stuck on the other side
<baweaver> It'll probably cost an arm and a leg to get him back
<edwardthefma> Just my whole body now im stuck in a world with no alchemy
<edwardthefma> :)
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<edwardthefma> baweaver have you seen the anime overlord
<baweaver> Join #ruby-offtopic
<baweaver> edwardthefma: bit more appropriate if we're getting too into anime
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<bambanx> edwardthefma, is good? last anime i saw was naruto :d
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<asphyxia> I'm having trouble calling the length of a class that I made... Class.length isn't working?
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<apeiros> ?code asphyxia
<ruby[bot]> asphyxia: We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
<baweaver> coooode
<baweaver> ohai apeiros
<apeiros> ohai bawy
* apeiros yawns
<apeiros> sorry, lazy. just woke up :)
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<baweaver> that's a new one
<baweaver> shevy still calls me beaver on reddit
<apeiros> they're still alive? nice. despite them being sometimes a bit annoying, I somehow miss them :D
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<baweaver> they're trolling reddit nowadays
<asphyxia> it tells me 'undefined method length for Class'
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<ruby[bot]> asphyxia: We can't help you without your code, please post it to https://gist.github.com
<apeiros> ?code asphyxia
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<apeiros> line 66 is the one which raises the exception?
<asphyxia> haha yes that was me trying to test
<baweaver> ?ts=2 fixes the tab oddities
<apeiros> asphyxia: ok, and on what line do you define the length class method?
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<apeiros> baweaver: oh! nice! 👍🏻
<apeiros> TIL
<asphyxia> baweaver: wait what?
<asphyxia> oh cool
<apeiros> asphyxia: yeah, that only fixes it for displaying. you still should fix it on your end :-p
<asphyxia> apeiros: no I thought it was a built in ruby function
<baweaver> use 2 spaces for indentation, it'll help readability later.
<apeiros> asphyxia: it isn't. why would it be? what would it do?
<asphyxia> I thought it counted the length of an array ^^;
<apeiros> is Car an array?
<asphyxia> ...no
<apeiros> great. so yes, Array#length exists, but since Car isn't an array, why would it respond to length?
* baweaver resists urge to do bad things to make it do so
<baweaver> y'sure you don't mean cars.length?
<baweaver> So what's the code for asphyxia?
<asphyxia> I'm trying to learn ruby
<baweaver> Mmm.
<baweaver> Gimme a few minutes
<baweaver> asphyxia: got a few minutes to play?
<asphyxia> definitely ^^
<baweaver> Lemme brew some tea right quick
<asphyxia> :D
<baweaver> We can play here
<baweaver> apeiros: feel free to join to call me on any bs :P
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<apeiros> I doubt there'll be bs to call you out on :D
<baweaver> asphyxia: you can type on the pad too if you ever have a question
<baweaver> Making sense so far?
<asphyxia> baweaver: I think so...
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<baweaver> asphyxia: Should cover the basics
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<asphyxia> baweaver: it's so neat and simplified now I could cry ahha
<baweaver> apeiros: smell check? :D
<baweaver> I'd almost consider using keyword params too
<asphyxia> baweaver: that was awesome I've never used coderpad.io before
<apeiros> baweaver: I started using kwargs with almost everything >1 param. sometimes even for 1 if the param is non-obvious.
<baweaver> Car.new(id: x, manufacturer: y, model: z, kilometers: k)
<baweaver> so initialize would... actually, lemme type that out right quick
<baweaver> See point 36 and on
<baweaver> The tea is good, by the way
<baweaver> quite pleasant
<asphyxia> you're a legend
<baweaver> Any of that not make sense to you?
<baweaver> and feel free to say so
<asphyxia> a lot of it was new syntax actually
<baweaver> because I still have a lot to learn on teaching myself :)
<asphyxia> It almost seemed as if the way I was being taught is... more bloaty and old fashioned
<asphyxia> are there any good online courses that you'd recommend, or just time and perusing the net?
<baweaver> Oh? Where are you learning?
<asphyxia> at a university
<baweaver> I typically recommend Eloquent Ruby
<apeiros> read_cars smells a little bit IMO
<baweaver> I tend to write a lot here: https://medium.com/@baweaver
<asphyxia> haha that's for dopey first years like me XD
<baweaver> though to be fair some of that is really advanced stuff, so be warned (my blog)
<apeiros> asphyxia: btw., IMO try to get used to $stdin.gets over plain gets. people almost universally get confused when gets does "weird" things the moment they have values in ARGV (it's not weird though, it's working as intended, just that this intent usually comes as a surprise)
<asphyxia> apeiros: sorry what's argv?
<apeiros> ARGV contains all arguments passed to your script.
<apeiros> `ruby foo.rb --some flag -x some values` will give you ARGV == ["--some", "flag", "-x", "some", "values"]
<apeiros> and gets will now try to read a file "--some", then "flag", then "-x", then "some", then "values" and only *then* start reading from $stdin. put in different words, gets is ARGF.gets, not $stdin.gets.
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<apeiros> this *can* be nice behavior, but IME is more often NOT what's wanted. personally I'd love if ruby changed Kernel#gets to become $stdin.gets.
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<asphyxia> apeiros: oh I see so it all happens pre-compile
<apeiros> compile? :)
<asphyxia> I mean those funny things with gets happen while the compiler is compiling the code?
<apeiros> while the distinction is IMO largely meaningless, ruby's main runtime is an interpreter.
<asphyxia> ^^;
<phaul> TIL what Kernel.gets does.. Would have never guessed
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<apeiros> baweaver: IMO unsmelled the read_cars.
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<asphyxia> baweaver: apeiros: you know how we initialise a new array like [], then can initialising a class be done like this? Car[param:1, param:2, param:3]
<apeiros> no
<baweaver> :D
<asphyxia> too creative huh
<baweaver> Don't do it, but you _could_
<apeiros> but you can write a method to allow that, though
<baweaver> Well, I say that, but I do it.
<asphyxia> ^^ I'll read eloquent ruby I think
<apeiros> class Car; alias [] new; end
<apeiros> then you can. but you'll just confuse readers of your code for no good reason :)
<baweaver> class Something; def self.[](params) new(params) end; end; Something['foo']
* baweaver whistles innocently and hides Qo
<asphyxia> apeiros: 'but you'll confuse readers of your code' <- yes! my fav kind of programmer
<apeiros> you know this includes you?
<apeiros> the you one month from now :)
<asphyxia> My code is shit, but I do try and think about another dev in the future who might have to look at it
<asphyxia> aka I'm trying to develop good habbits
<baweaver> It takes time
<apeiros> 👍🏻
<baweaver> we've been at this for more years than we care to count
<apeiros> coding is like 80% habits. so developing good habits is an excellent idea.
<asphyxia> cue therapy sesh
<asphyxia> XD
<apeiros> and just like the other 76% of all stats, I pulled that 80% number out of thin air.
<asphyxia> by the way, hey. (: I'm new to the ruby community but I think I'm gonna hang around or at least frequent this channel alot in the future. (: My semester is ending in two weeks but ruby is the first language I've really learnt so I wanna see what I can build with it
<baweaver> We'll be around
<baweaver> Welcome aboard
<baweaver> Also note that frequently I won't be up this late
<asphyxia> I saw that there is a ruby.social masto instance...
<baweaver> 2am here
<asphyxia> do you know if that community is any good?
<asphyxia> baweaver: oh wow
<apeiros> it's morning, though
<asphyxia> for me it's evening... Au
<apeiros> I'm on ruby.social
<baweaver> @baweaver@ruby.social
<baweaver> Australia?
<asphyxia> oh deadly
<asphyxia> yeah (:
<apeiros> but I still have to set up a desktop client. I just don't use webclients.
<asphyxia> apeiros: I smell a linux user
<baweaver> or Twitter: https://twitter.com/keystonelemur
<apeiros> osx
<apeiros> I actually downloaded an app (whale, I think?), but still haven't set it up
<asphyxia> @kogumanomisha@freeradical.zone for myself
<asphyxia> apeiros: the amaroq iOS app seems pretty neat
<apeiros> ok. don't want it on iOS, tho
<apeiros> but keeping that in mind should I change my opinion :)
<asphyxia> apeiros: meh I get bored during commuting
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<phaul> >> [1, 1].sum
<ruby[bot]> phaul: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<phaul> &ri Array
<phaul> derpy is not even with us anymore?
<phaul> is voluntering to do some maintenance on these bots a good idea? Ie is it welcome?
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<apeiros> phaul: it is welcome, but at the moment a bit difficult to organize :-( also the issue with that error above is not with ruby[bot] but eval.in. eval.in crashes (and subsequently ruby[bot] has an error dealing with that error)
<apeiros> eval.in being http://eval.in
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<al2o3-cr> apeiros: could you not use jhass's carc.in?
<apeiros> ah, seems he added ruby now. yes, probably.
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<apeiros> the idea was to just have a container which is rebuilt every hour or so. but I won't get to that anytime soon.
<phaul> apeiros: how about derpy?
<al2o3-cr> no worries, other things come first.
<apeiros> derpy is adeadra's bot
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<phaul> yeah I don't want to step on anybodys toes, it's just that I have some free time, I am happy to help out
<phaul> if I can
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<phaul> it's a shame eval.in is broken.
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<phaul> I assume you call out into an external service for security reasons
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<phaul> I had a quick look around rubyinfo.org. Replacing derpy with something that points there is not trivial. If possible at all. :(
<apeiros> "I assume you call out into an external service for security reasons"
<apeiros> correct
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<apeiros> I think adeadra provided me access to the bots source
<apeiros> might even be public
<apeiros> I'm currently a bit busy, tho
<phaul> apeiros: np, when you have time I'll ask again
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<krautcat> Hi everyone. I'm looking for proper configuration of my enivornment for rbenv and system ruby. All I want is to have separate gem configuration only for system ruby that won't affect rbenv-maintained rubies. So all I want is to install gems for system ruby in custom directory (not in $HOME/.gem) but not for rbenv-maintained rubies. Is there any recepies or information I can read to? For now I know that I can specify gem install directory by environment
<krautcat> variables (which aren't ignored by rbenv) and by passing flag to gem executable. Is there any things more I can tweak to achieve my goal?
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<krautcat> So, summarize, I want to deeply customize gem layout for system ruby but not for rbenv-maintained rubies
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