<leftylink>
note that as that has so kindly explained
<havenwood>
Intelo: I know various solutions. I was hoping to guide you to one.
<leftylink>
If the size of any argument is less than enum#size, nil values are supplied. If a block is given, it is invoked for each output array, otherwise an array of arrays is returned.
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<leftylink>
er, I am sorry, that is not what I m eant to paste
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<leftylink>
`The length of the resulting sequence will be enum#size. If the size of any argument is less than enum#size, nil values are supplied.`
<Intelo>
havenwood, can you paste the shortest working one?
<havenwood>
Intelo: If you define the function, the test will pass.
<havenwood>
Intelo: You can add additional assertions for additional testcases if you want comprehensive ansers.
<havenwood>
Intelo: In my experience, writing test cases defines the problem and assists in quick solutions that pass all tests.
<havenwood>
Intelo: It also makes it super easy for us to confirm our solutions without a ton of duplicate work.
<Intelo>
hm
<leftylink>
wasn't there some episode where they had some tearful reunion with jisoo or someshit like that?
<havenwood>
Intelo: If you save that file as `intelo.rb` you can run the tests with: ruby intelo.rb
<leftylink>
whoops, sorry
<havenwood>
Intelo: Note, there's just one failing.
<havenwood>
Intelo: Typically, you want at least several assertions, to cover the bases.
<Intelo>
hm
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<havenwood>
Intelo: This also lets you spot regressions when you refactor. :)
<havenwood>
Which gives you license to refactor liberally.
<havenwood>
And to try various solutions.
<Intelo>
hm..
<Intelo>
you are a fond of TDD?
<Intelo>
havenwood, you do everything with TDD?
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<cagomez>
what are some examples of needing to define a class due to it being stateful vs not needing to?
<havenwood>
Intelo: I vary my approach. I certainly don't always write tests first. I'd say I usually don't write tests first. But that's different than not writing tests. :P
<havenwood>
cagomez: A class isn't necessary if there's no state.
<havenwood>
cagomez: You can use a module in that case.
<Intelo>
hm
<cagomez>
havenwood: right, looking for examples though
<Intelo>
leftylink, havenwood tell me how to achieve this. I am still very curious.
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<havenwood>
cagomez: Look at whether they're methods (where the receiver of the method call matters for the result) or functions (where the receiver is irrelevant and the output depends only on arguments).
<havenwood>
Intelo: I'm getting on a plane right now, but if you write failing tests I'd be happy to write a passing solution.
<leftylink>
you have already been adivsed by me that Enumerable#zip walks two enumerables in lockstep. if you have any questions about this advisement, you are free to ask those follow-up questions.
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<Intelo>
havenwood, I have zero experience with tdd
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<havenwood>
Intelo: I wrote a test. Add an assertion. :)
<Intelo>
absolutely no clue untill I get classes on that
<cagomez>
havenwood: what's an example of the former case? I almost get it haha
<leftylink>
if you instead ignore this advisement and/or you decide that someone else's advisement is superior to mine, I accept your judgment
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<cagomez>
the latter case makes a ton of sense, btw
<havenwood>
cagomez: If the same arguments always result in the same return value, then it's a function.
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<havenwood>
cagomez: If the thing that you're calling the method on might change, and then that changes the return value, then it's a method.
<havenwood>
cagomez: Folk can quibble about function/method exact definition, which vary by community, but that
<havenwood>
gotta board >.> brb maybe
<cagomez>
the context of my question is a service object. If a class has one method, and operating on an instance variable , which always returns the same thing, could it just as easily be a class with a single class method (requiring no instantiation?)
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<Intelo>
havenwood, have a safe flight
<leftylink>
I remember that once someone wrote an instance method that did something with an instance variable. then that person realised that the code would work better if it were just a bare function that took its input as a parameter, since it was easier to be able to pass various things as input to the function and it is not always easy or obvious to change the instance variable
<Intelo>
leftylink, you there to hint me with code?
<leftylink>
perhaps that is in the similar vein as the current discussion
<cagomez>
yeah, very similar leftylink
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<cagomez>
in my case, rather than change the instance variable, you could just init a whole new instance
<havenwood>
Intelo: It got delayed half hour so I'm still here!
<havenwood>
cagomez: Are you passing the instance variable to the method?
<Intelo>
oh ok. so result = survey.zip(payload.each_slice(2)).flatten(1).compact
<Intelo>
=> [{1=>1}, [{"a"=>"a"}, {"b"=>"b"}]]
<cagomez>
no, the method takes no params. it just operates on the ivar
<havenwood>
cagomez: Where does the ivar come from?
<havenwood>
cagomez: Could you pass it to the method rather than instantiating with it?
<havenwood>
Intelo: I'm still not sure on your various scenarios. We really need at least examples with expected output for each.
<havenwood>
Intelo: You may be overestimating how much we understand about what you want.
<Intelo>
ok. one sec
<havenwood>
Maybe someone else gets it? I'm tired and may be daft.
<leftylink>
sorry I was a little vague with the exact circumstance where the instance method was replaced with a plain function, I have to figure out exactly how much I can share about it. since I realise you asked for concrete examples I know I am not being very helpful :)
<havenwood>
leftylink: It totally depends on where the ivar came from! If you're instantiating with that ivar as an argument for that sole purpose, better to simply use a module and pass the argument to the method directly. That saves overhead and is simpler.
<havenwood>
That's a good case for a module function.
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<havenwood>
If you that function is called repeatedly and the argument doesn't change, that's a good case for a singleton class.
<havenwood>
Intelo: That's way better! I'd suggest moving it towards tests but that's soooo much better than logic. Folk here can solve for that. :)
<cagomez>
err, actually, module + module_function can be `included` in classes. with classes, you'd need to use the static methods
<havenwood>
cagomez: Yes, it's a very similar alternative and sometimes a better one when you don't want to use it as a mixin ever or need private module functions.
<havenwood>
cagomez: The key is, either way you have no internal state.
<havenwood>
cagomez: There's a single instance.
<havenwood>
cagomez: Actually, that's wrong, no instance whatsover.
<havenwood>
cagomez: A singleton class is a single instance, when you have a single instance of state.
<havenwood>
cagomez: You can have constants with a module.
<havenwood>
cagomez: State is something that isn't, then you create it an it's a thing.
<Intelo>
havenwood, tell me function before boarding
<havenwood>
Intelo: hrm?
<Intelo>
tdd is not my thing for now
<Intelo>
how to get wanted
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<leftylink>
oh, hmm, I was about to react badly because that sounded selfish, but I may have misinterpreted, my apologies
<leftylink>
like, the selfish way of interpreting that would have been "hey let's completely ignore the fact that you have other shit to do in your life, let's make it all about me me me me me I want you to give me the code now"
<leftylink>
I shouldn't misinterpret like that though
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<Intelo>
leftylink, sorry if you felt that way. i was just curious
<leftylink>
it is unfortunate, indeed. since English is not my first language, sometimes I misinterpret things like that, sorry
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<Intelo>
whats the solution here?
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<leftylink>
I'm not sure there's a solution other than "leftylink should get better at English and remember to assume good faith"
<Intelo>
good solution!
<leftylink>
great
<havenwood>
Intelo: Hint: flatten
<havenwood>
Intelo: I got you two methods from the solution.
<havenwood>
.this.that
<havenwood>
Intelo: The first method is #flatten, and takes one argument.
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<havenwood>
Intelo: The second method makes it a Hash.
<havenwood>
If anyone wants to reveal, please do!
<havenwood>
But my lips are sealed.
<havenwood>
Intelo: Read up on #flatten and try some args! :)
<Intelo>
already tried (1,2
<Intelo>
and 3
<havenwood>
colder
<havenwood>
Intelo: What does the argument do?
<Intelo>
flaterns with interval of 2/3/4 whatever args
<havenwood>
Intelo: What's the default value for the argument?
<Intelo>
it assumes (1(
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<havenwood>
Intelo: Which seems to flatten one too much here.
<leftylink>
hold on.
<leftylink>
00:52:30 < Intelo> flaterns with interval of 2/3/4 whatever args
<havenwood>
Intelo: What would flatten less, but still just a bit?
<havenwood>
Intelo: Keep in mind, the default argument is: 1
<havenwood>
Intelo: It's 1 level too deep.
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<leftylink>
hmm, I would rather think of the default argument as infinity
<leftylink>
but shrug
<havenwood>
leftylink: It's not, though!
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<havenwood>
leftylink: Oh, I kinda get what you're saying. But what's Infinity minus 1? :P
<leftylink>
I must have misunderstood again. I'll just say that the reason I said "oh, I didn't think the default argument is 1" is because there are counterexamples to the statement `forall a, a.flatten == a.flatten(1)`
<havenwood>
Intelo: What would flatten 1 level less than 1?
<leftylink>
if I misunderstood what you were saying, I apologise again for that
<havenwood>
leftylink: I'm probably the one misunderstanding. :)
<havenwood>
leftylink: Long week!
<Intelo>
havenwood, no flatten at all.
<leftylink>
the counterexample I had in mind was [[[1]]]. try [[[1]]].flatten(1) vs [[[1]]].flatten
<Intelo>
havenwood, or a string
<havenwood>
leftylink: -1 is default, yeah?
<havenwood>
leftylink: I get confused on flatten and flat_map and often have to reference docs.
<havenwood>
Actually, flat_map I don't forget, just flatten.
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<havenwood>
Intelo: Try a lower number...
<havenwood>
Intelo: It's worth experimenting a bit with #flatten so you know when to re-reference the docs.
<havenwood>
cagomez: A module_function can be included into a class. It will be private within the class, so it can be called freely within the class but doesn't expose a public instance method.
<Intelo>
cagomez, interval of two pockets is pattern
<havenwood>
cagomez: That's exactly why you use a module_function rather than a class method, since it'll be private.
<havenwood>
(When included.)
<leftylink>
hmm. IMO I would like it more if a negative level would raise an exception, but perhaps there may be good reasons why these things are happening
<leftylink>
okay, looking at the source code I think it is kind of... for practicality
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<leftylink>
I do not want to know what happens if someone makes -1 wrap around to 0 though
<leftylink>
you'd have to have an array nested 2**32 deep for that though, so hopefully it's fine and doesn't happen :)
<leftylink>
not to say that someone is copying homework or anything, just saying that I try to make it so that people can learn something. if they learn nothing then I have not helped the world
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<Intelo>
o.O
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<leftylink>
may I give a reminder that given there is a pipeline of functions, it is useful to examine the results at each step. if `flatten` is not receiving inputs that would allow it to produce the desired output, then changing `flatten` and anything beyond it makes no progress.
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<leftylink>
It has often been said that a person does not really understand something until he teaches it to someone else. Actually a person does not _really_ understand something until he can teach it to a _computer_.
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<chakan>
Hi
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<havenwood>
chakan: hi
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<dr_mdma_md>
Anyone here offer freelance development/freelance tutoring? I have this app I need fixed. Thanks.
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<Intelo>
leftylink, cant solv it
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<hoijui>
does anyone here have experience with gollum (the git backed wiki written in ruby)?
<hoijui>
it is used by github for their per-project wiki's aswell
<hoijui>
I am interested to know whether it is compatible wiht gitlab and gitea aswell
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<al2o3-cr>
&>> ((1..10) % 0).to_a
<rubydoc>
stderr: playpen: application terminated abnormally with signal 31 (Bad system call) (https://carc.in/#/r/7iqi)
<al2o3-cr>
ah, it's just does a shit load of mremap sys calls.
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<al2o3-cr>
wow, that consumes memory fast
<leftylink>
well, I guess since it's not doing division, no need for division by zero, but I was also not prepared for what would happen there
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<al2o3-cr>
oh right yeah, i should of check that first.
<al2o3-cr>
i just took it as it did modulo.
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<chakan>
What's the best framework available for ruby (besides rails)
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<leftylink>
(fake answer) I am the best bambaratatata dadadadada
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<otaznik[m]>
chakan: best for what?
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<otaznik[m]>
leftylink: (thread on fake answer) nope, you are the humBlEST
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<havenwood>
chakan: Rails is one Rack framework but there are many. Roda is my favorite. Hanami and Sinatra are also very nice and there are a variety of other options.
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<IndoRuby>
Can I say hello here?
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<havenwood>
Intelo: I only accounted for the test cases where you showed corresponding input and desired output.
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<havenwood>
Intelo: You'll get *MUCH* faster answers if you just show runnable examples and then what you want the return value to be for each.
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<havenwood>
Intelo: I know you don't want to write tests, but you'd sure get your answer faster and be able to communicate what's not working better if you bothered.
<havenwood>
Intelo: you can clone that gist, and run: ruby intelo.rb
<havenwood>
Intelo: If you change it to be your data and multiple assertions, you have a test.
<havenwood>
Intelo: You don't even need to use a testing framework, but what I'm saying is make it runnable with examples.
<havenwood>
Intelo: You're just showing two examples. I don't see where it's failing. It's really hard to tell what you're wanting. You're showing literally TWO test cases and both pass for the code. I think you want more than two cases.
<Intelo>
my issue: last 2 hashes are trimmed
<Intelo>
if survey only has one has
<Intelo>
h
<Intelo>
last 2 hashes of payload
<havenwood>
Intelo: Sec, I'll show you what I mean.
<Intelo>
so I guess I need to change code or result
<Intelo>
but I choose to change code
<Intelo>
and not result needed
<Intelo>
so my question is
<Intelo>
what part of code to change?
<Intelo>
I believe it has 1 liner answer
<havenwood>
Intelo: I don't want to just write your code. I'll solve a similar problem to help you with the principles but I don't want to just write your software if you won't write tests.
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<Intelo>
I know. you are teaching me to fish and not give fish
<Intelo>
but I learn seeing you catch fish
<havenwood>
Intelo: For example, I'd be happy to help you get the tests I wrote above passing. That should be a solution to your problem.
<havenwood>
I'll do a similar problem, like the one I wrote tests for. You may find it's the same problem.
<Intelo>
havenwood, I am not at that level yet...
<havenwood>
Intelo: Someone else may be willing to just give you a one-liner if you want to hold out for that. :)
<Intelo>
I have my own learning way. I want to adapt but.. can't righ tnow
<Intelo>
I understand and agree with you but I have my ..
<havenwood>
I have my own way of teaching. Someone else might be more your style!
<Intelo>
I respect your style
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<havenwood>
Intelo: This code is meant to be similar to your problem and also similar to your partial solution. Instead of using an Enumerator and rescuing I switched it to an index-based system since I think you'll have more luck with that. https://gist.github.com/havenwood/fea05da5c6b9be112d47d6c896dd8ad6
<havenwood>
Intelo: Can you tell how that's ^ the same problem domain as what you're working on?
<Intelo>
hm
<Intelo>
let me be back
<havenwood>
Intelo: Note, you can try other solutions and just run that file to test if it works for all cases with: ruby intelo.rb
<Intelo>
I wonder why survey.zip(payload.each_slice(2)).flatten.compact dont work
<havenwood>
Intelo: It just doesn't have the behavior you want. It does a similar thing, but you added a test case it doesn't pass for so that approach won't work.
<Intelo>
havenwood, we spent many hours on it.
<havenwood>
Intelo: Huh?
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<Intelo>
on the strategy but not exact .methods that can do it
<havenwood>
Intelo: I'm not writing your one-liner. I can, just wont! :P
<havenwood>
Intelo: This is as far as I go.
<havenwood>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Intelo>
I know.
<Intelo>
:))
<havenwood>
Happy to work through solutions or help understand any part you don't quite grok.
<havenwood>
Intelo: Did the gist above give you any ideas for a solution? Any parts of it you don't get?
<Intelo>
will be back
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<leftylink>
for some reason I didn't know that minitest had `describe` as well. I looked at its changelog and it is not new, so this reveals I must have never read the docs
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<leftylink>
has existed for about a decade or something
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<chakan>
Basically when you are looking for project to Support, they ask you to know ruby on rails
<chakan>
Most of them
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<chakan>
Seems like mandatory to learn it
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<greengriminal>
Hey all
<phaul>
hi greengriminal
<greengriminal>
As rubyist we know that multiple conditions with `unless` does not work for example: `puts 'test' unless false && true` <- won't work because "not" does apply to all conditionals. However take these snippets into consideration. But take this snippet for example.
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<greengriminal>
you'll find that the only `truthy` expression is when both or conditions are false. Which brings me to my question it appears like you "can" use multiple expression with unless.
<greengriminal>
Assuming that both left and right or conditions are false.
<jhass>
just mentally rewrite unless expr to if !(expr)
<jhass>
it's the same
<jhass>
so of course puts "test" unless false && true "works", it's the same as puts "test" if !(false && true)