<nakilon>
nevermind, the object needs attributes and making a method/lambda returning a Struct does not look like something more simple than actually defining a class
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<naftilos76>
Hi everyone, i am building a simple messaging system with tcp connections based on the concept of mqtt messages where there are topics, publishers and subscribers. I am at the very beginning and i am wondering if a publisher has to keep a connection on indefinately during the period it publishes messages. This makes things really faster instead of opening & closing sockets. However if i choose the first where a tcp connection stays always on then my
<naftilos76>
understanding says that i have to keep a separate thread of execution with a client.gets in order to capture messages from individual clients. That brings me to the conclusion that 10k clients require 10k threads which is absurd. Can you pls tell me if my thinking is correct?
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<naftilos76>
Hi everyone, i am building a simple messaging system with tcp connections based on the concept of mqtt messages where there are topics, publishers and subscribers. I am at the very beginning and i am wondering if a publisher has to keep a connection on indefinately during the period it publishes messages. This makes things really faster instead of opening & closing sockets. However if i choose the first where a tcp connection stays always on then my
<naftilos76>
understanding says that i have to keep a separate thread of execution with a client.gets in order to capture messages from individual clients. That brings me to the conclusion that 10k clients require 10k threads which is absurd. Can you pls tell me if my thinking is correct?
<ua_>
are there any libs you could use? also elixir(erlang vm) is great fit for 10k threads/connections
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<adam12>
naftilos76: Probably want some sort of poll mechanism like IO.select, and not 10k threads.
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<naftilos76>
adam12: not sure how to do that. canyou give me some hints?
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<ChewyB>
Hey, what was the operating system of the 1st ruby version ever? I've read it was in 1993 or 1995 i wonder if it was Dos/Windows or Unix like OS?
<apotheon>
good question
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<ChewyB>
I just download version 0.49 there is no WIN/WINDOWS things, but some UNIX and little linux too. But maybe it could build on DOS or Windows? i wonder. But it looks like the creator was on an Unix like system.
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<ChewyB>
But it does not build on linux here because gcc has changed things :)
<ChewyB>
HOwever its fun.
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<leah2>
the code looks amazingly like the current ones :p
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<adam12>
grummund: Why GEM_PATH? Unexpected for a ruby noob.
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<adam12>
grummund: IMHO, forget about system ruby dependencies (anything through apt), forget about GEM_PATH. Run `jekyll` with `--skip-bundle`. Once inside your new project directory, `bundle install --path vendor/bundle`. Then always use `bundle exec jekyll` (not just naked `jekyll`).
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<adam12>
grummund: This moves dependencies directly to bundler, which will install them wherever you like (ie. vendor/bundle) and lock them to the versions you need for jekyll.
<grummund>
adam12: thanks. is --skip-bundle a ruby thing or a jekyll thing?
* grummund
found the offending line in /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/addressable/uri.rb - require "public_suffix"
<al2o3-cr>
yeah, ruby 3 isn't even in testing yet (Arch Linux)
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<grummund>
So maybe i can narrow this down, is there a command line that would effect the same as 'require "public_suffix"' ?
<al2o3-cr>
grummund: debian apt-package is out of date (3.0.3) `Make sure that `gem install public_suffix -v '4.0.6' --source 'https://rubygems.org/'` succeeds before bundling.
<al2o3-cr>
gem i public_suffix:4.0.6
<al2o3-cr>
do you rely on package manager or rubygems.
<al2o3-cr>
which is shit really.
* grummund
was hoping it could be done through apt.
<grummund>
if it can't then OK, but that was the expectation.
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<al2o3-cr>
grummund: just apt-remove ruby-public-suffix or however you do it, then gem i public_suffix:4.0.6 both are in your PATH
<grummund>
interesting, i added a 'require "i18n"' to the same file and it can't find that either.
<AndreYuhai>
Where should I initialize Sentry for Sidekiq so that when I require my worker in some other script to insert a job, it doesn't initialize sentry as well?
<AndreYuhai>
When I also require this worker in one of my scripts, then Sentry gets initialized as well, but I only want that for when I am actually using the script with the Sidekiq
<grummund>
al2o3-cr: then i may as well just install everything wholesale outside of debian's package manager (like has been suggested).
<AndreYuhai>
I don't know whether that makes sense though
<al2o3-cr>
grummund: i do.
<al2o3-cr>
even though it's not recommended.
<al2o3-cr>
because the package manager as no way of keeping track and it's entirely up to you to keep track.
<al2o3-cr>
debian is notorious for out-dated packages.
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<grummund>
yeah, that's okay so long as what is offered works together. ;)
<grummund>
i may come back to this, but for now thanks vm.
<AndreYuhai>
Or another way to ask is I think, how can I check whether a file is being required
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<al2o3-cr>
AndreYuhai: is it auto-loading somewhere?
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<AndreYuhai>
al2o3-cr, do you mean Sentry?
<al2o3-cr>
AndreYuhai: ah, nvm, i was thinking something else was happening.
<AndreYuhai>
oh okay
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<al2o3-cr>
any rails devs looking for to hotwire?
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<adam12>
al2o3-cr: I'm using Unpoly in near every project and it's an absolute dream. Not 1-1 for Hotwire but reasonably similar.
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: Unpoly 2 is coming soon and it looks even better. Makes me happy to not write an JS but still have decent interactivity.
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<al2o3-cr>
adam12: oh nice, didn't even know this existed.
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<al2o3-cr>
the less js the better :)
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: It's awesome
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<adam12>
al2o3-cr: Yeah! I do use Stimulus with it, but it's optional. I like having rigid connections between HTML and JS so I don't use the Unpoly version (called compilers). But if I added up non-vendor JS, I might have a few hundred lines in my most complex apps.
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<adam12>
al2o3-cr: It's in at least two platform-as-a-service offerings, one monitoring platform (like Pingdom), one restaurant ordering system, and one no-code business CRUD backend (like Airtable).
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: i'd like to see how they compare in the future, because i've heard seriously good things about hotwire :)
<adam12>
(that's just my stuff)
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<adam12>
al2o3-cr: I think Hotwire might be more automatic; and have pages in different states. Hotwire also looks like it can have custom caching options per "frame", which is neat.
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<al2o3-cr>
adam12: it's early days yet though.
<al2o3-cr>
and being dev'd by the right honarable gentleman himself :)
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: For Unpoly, it's basically just HTML over the wire in a declaritive way, so I don't have super complex views. First page load or refresh will load everything from the server, but after page load I might update smaller elements dynamically.
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: Yeah. Anything that allows me to avoid a JS buildstep makes me super happy.
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: :) just wait and see
<al2o3-cr>
honestly i think this is a really good thing.
<adam12>
Just today I wrote a dynamic dropdown for address. Select Country, get a list of Province / States. No custom JS; I just tell Unpoly to update the form element for the Province when the Country changes. It's literally `up-validate="#address_province"`. Makes me incredibly happ.y
<al2o3-cr>
once it matures.
<al2o3-cr>
👍
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: can't get much simpler, can it?
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: Nope. It's seriously one of the most productive things for me (the other being Tailwind).
<al2o3-cr>
ah, yes css framework.
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: scores please?
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: For?
<al2o3-cr>
unpoly and tailwind
<adam12>
What scores tho?
<al2o3-cr>
personal ratings that is
<adam12>
Ooh
<adam12>
Hmm good question.
<al2o3-cr>
10 being the best thing since sliced bread
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<adam12>
I'd say that Tailwind is a solid 8. I think there's going to be a better approach for me _eventually_ (like something that uses custom elements but without the drawbacks of the shadow dom). It takes some getting used to (a dozen classes per element) but I have zero fear in changing a class, where as with traditional CSS cascade and larger teams, who knows _what_ other people have done.
<adam12>
Unpoly is a 9; I bet version 2 will make it a 10 for me, but right now it does have _some_ strange things around error pages, etc. If you change the layout, it doesn't detect it. If assets change, they don't get detected (like Turbolinks does). But in happyness it's fantastic. Modals? Easy. Inline validations? Easy. Smooth pagination? Easy.
<nakilon>
my rule of thumb is to not incapsulate things in anything that is purposed for reusage until you really reuse it so I'll probably not make it a gem until I need it again in some another program
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<al2o3-cr>
nakilon: fair enough. just keep something like that around, you never know when it might come in handy :)
<al2o3-cr>
nakilon: did ruby-prof offer nothing like this?
<nakilon>
afaik it's only a method profiler, same as others
<al2o3-cr>
nakilon: i thought it might have offered something like that in respect
<al2o3-cr>
9 years old is going back to at least 1.8/9
<al2o3-cr>
ancient :p
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<deimos_>
i'm missing something about ruby and mongo. say i have this, https://dpaste.org/3kPi/slim I cannot get the regex to take the #{variable here} no matter what I do
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<deimos_>
mongo is trying to match the regex on the literal variable name (#{last_month.strftime("%Y-%m")}) and not "2021-01"
<deimos_>
i've tried escaping the ", escaping the \#{, without #{}, etc
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<deimos_>
i'm clearly approaching this wrong
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<havenwood>
deimos_: Use a double quoted String.
<havenwood>
deimos_: Do you mean that to be a String with a Regexp inside it or just a Regexp?
<havenwood>
deimos_: A Regexp would be just:
<havenwood>
/^#{last_month.strftime("%Y-%m")}/i
<havenwood>
deimos_: Or as a String, double quotes for interpolation:
<havenwood>
"/^#{last_month.strftime("%Y-%m")}/i"
<havenwood>
"/^#{last_month.strftime('%Y-%m')}/i"
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<deimos_>
i think i tried that, but the mongo gem only takes '
<deimos_>
so '$regex' is the operator
<havenwood>
deimos_: Mongo doesn't know.
<deimos_>
err, i'll try i
<havenwood>
deimos_: Is it supposed to be a String or Regexp value?
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<havenwood>
deimos_: I'd have expected:
<deimos_>
the mongo gem seems to want everything wrapped in ', not "
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<nakilon>
using single quotes by default is a bad habit that masses have been taught years ago by the a codestyle guide that no one wanted to make until it was made by a kid with minimal coding experience
<scriptonaut>
anyone know if it's possible to break out of a loop AND the parent loop?
<scriptonaut>
I have a while look, and inside there I have an each block. From within the each block, there is a rare condition which requires me to break out of the each and the while loops
<scriptonaut>
was wondering if there's an elegant way to do this, otherwise I will simply have some kind of variable like "break_early = false", and set it to true during this special condition
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<scriptonaut>
and then either break if break_early, or put the break_early inside my while conditional
<scriptonaut>
it would be cool if there was like: break(2) or something
<scriptonaut>
was also considering using a catch/throw but that's kind of spaghetti code
<havenwood>
scriptonaut: Can you extract method refactor and just `return` instead of breaking twice?
<scriptonaut>
I could
<havenwood>
That's a nice way to god.
<havenwood>
go*
<scriptonaut>
I have an implicit return at the end of my method, where I just have `results`
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<scriptonaut>
I wondered if it might be confusing to explicitly return results in this special case
<scriptonaut>
but I assume not?
<scriptonaut>
ok, I'll just do that, mostly it just got make curious if multi-level breaks were a thing
<scriptonaut>
got me curious*
<leftylink>
one's preferred engine can be used to search for a list of languages with labeled break, but Ruby is not one of those
<leftylink>
since an expression given to break instead causes the broken thing to evaluate to that
<nakilon>
02:50:54 <scriptonaut> anyone know if it's possible to break out of a loop AND the parent loop?