adam12 changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules: https://ruby-community.com | Ruby 3.0.1, 2.7.3, 2.6.7: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Paste 4+ lines to: https://gist.github.com | Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ | Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby | BLM <3
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<jackiiilong> what is the popular practice area for ruby programming
<jackiiilong> in practice
<jackiiilong> just like python for web crawler
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<Qchmqs> rails and web servers
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<herbert__> Is there a way to script a gem install <gem> installation to automatically answer yes in case there is a question? I couldn't find it in the help file and there is no manpages entry for gem...
<herbert__> my installation says ""rdoc" from rdoc conflicts with /usr/local/bin/rdoc" and asks me which one to keep. I would like to automatically say "yes" for my script bc. the way it is now it breaks.
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<ooshlablu> hello all, I'm wondering if there's a list of the lifecycles of the ruby versions published somewhere
<ooshlablu> Things like when a version will be deprecated, how long versions are expected to receive patches and security updates, etc
<ooshlablu> I have found this, which shows the current state of things: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/branches/
<ooshlablu> but I'm hoping there may be something more forward-looking somewhere
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<havenwood> ooshlablu: Ruby 3.1 will be released on Christmas then on March 31 Ruby 2.7 will go into security maintenance and Ruby 2.6 will be EOL.
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<havenwood> ooshlablu: Then Ruby 3.2 on Christmas, and so on.
<havenwood> ooshlablu: That's all there is to it.
<ooshlablu> ok, so it's like every christmas will be a new release and 2 previous will be kept?
<havenwood> ooshlablu: Yes, the current stable release is joined by two in normal maintenance and one in security maintenance.
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<havenwood> ooshlablu: But account for March 31 not being Christmas.
<havenwood> ooshlablu: So it's between two and three in normal maintenance.
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<ooshlablu> ok, cool
<ooshlablu> thanx
<ooshlablu> is that posted on a page anywhere?
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* jla ruby newbie here ..
<jla> ( i think i accidentally removed Gemfile.lock ) i'm getting (in Jekyll) , erros and - Run `git checkout HEAD -- Gemfile.lock` first to get a clean lock.
<jla> yet, running ^^ the suggested command doesn't help ... what am i missing ?
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<jidar> jla: can you not just "bundle update" ?
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<jla> yes jidar, it fixed it
<jidar> generally speaking, you don't git track your .lock file
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<adam12> jidar: Actually I’d argue it's the opposite and you _should_ track .lock in applications (but not libraries).
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<havenwood> jidar: The longstanding practice has been to commit the Gemfile.lock for apps but not gems. Bundler is now recommending to commit it for gems too, which makes the guidance simpler.
<adam12> That advise for gems is controversial; I was a believer in it too, until I had a _strange_ CI failure that I couldn’t debug.
<havenwood> adam12: Yeah, I'm not a fan of it personally since I've seen it cause more pain than help.
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<havenwood> Gemfile.lock is in practice somewhat brittle and some gems are more regularly maintained than others.
<havenwood> I think it's fair to say Gemfile.lock should definitely be committed for apps and it doesn't matter for gems.
<havenwood> Some gems do, some gems don't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<havenwood> All apps do. If they don't, something is seriously amiss.
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<jidar> woha, didn't expect that. I've had so many issues trying to figure out what goofyness was happening due to a gemfile.lock
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<deviantfero> what do you guys think about asdf as version manager instead of rvm
<adam12> deviantfero: I dont’ personally use it (I use no version manager other than Docker) but I can see the benefits of it, especially if you need multiple tools.
<weaksauce> it seems like a nice version manager
<adam12> deviantfero: Having versions defined for ruby, node, postgres is pretty nice.
<weaksauce> for all things
<weaksauce> i really really dislike rvm though
<newton> I've used it for a few years w/o issues (before I used chruby)
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<newton> asdf, that is
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<leftylink> anything that others can learn or is this only useful for those close to basecamp and/or those who use basecamp?
<weaksauce> how not to handle an all hands
<weaksauce> and that singer fellow seems to be tone deaf at the very least
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