drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.2.1: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-2-1 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<imperator> tcopeland, howdy
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<tcopeland> imperator: hey hey!
<imperator> tcopeland, saw the announcement about RF
<imperator> was wondering if there's a way to get a single file of all mailing list messages
<imperator> was trying to do it within the interface, didn't see a way
<tcopeland> you bet, you can probably scp down the mbox file
<tcopeland> which is at.. hmmm … which list?
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<imperator> win32utils-devel
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<tcopeland> lemme see
<havenwood> channel topic could use a version bump to 2.2.2 :)
imperator changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.2.1: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-2-2 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
imperator changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.2.2: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-2-2 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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imperator changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.2.2: http://blog.rubygems.org/2014/02/05/2.2.2-released.html - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
<tcopeland> imperator: see if you can get it with: scp djberg96:win32utils-devel.mbox .
<tcopeland> i.e., I copied it to your home directory
<imperator> ssh: djberg96: no address associated with name
<imperator> that the right syntax?
<tcopeland> oh gosh sorry I mean: cp djberg96@rubyforge.org:win32utils-devel.mbox .
<tcopeland> er
<tcopeland> scp djberg96@rubyforge.org:win32utils-devel.mbox .
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<imperator> hm, permission denied
<imperator> do i need to copy my id_rsa.pub file up?
<tcopeland> it's got a public key in there
<tcopeland> the one with your gmail email address at the end
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<tcopeland> or I can just email it to you
<tcopeland> shall I email it to that gmail address?
<imperator> hm, i think that's old - i updated it, but it's still failing
<imperator> sure, just send it to me please
<imperator> (oddly, it says I have 4 keys, but there's just 1)
<imperator> oh, right, it's only updated hourly
<tcopeland> gzip'd mbox file heading your way now
<tcopeland> yeah the cron
<imperator> got it, thanks!
<tcopeland> you betcha
<imperator> i see people still posting stuff there recently even
<imperator> i mean RF in general
<tcopeland> yeah, I think those folks need to be gently moved off to the githubs… one less system for RubyCentral to have to worry about...
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<imperator> yup, understood, still feels like the end of an era
<imperator> 9600 projects, 100,000 users
<imperator> served its purpose
<tcopeland> yessir
<tcopeland> a fine run
<imperator> what's the backup plan?
<imperator> like, mailing lists, code snippets, etc
<imperator> s/backup/archive
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* imperator just now realizes how many of the code snippets are just spam
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<Atww> Anyone run into " rbenv rehash
<Atww> rbenv: cannot rehash: /usr/local/rbenv/shims/.rbenv-shim exists " ? Any tips?
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<dduvnjak> I want to publish some gems under a GPLv3 license. Is adding the appropriate LICENSE file all that's required to do that?
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<imperator> dduvnjak, you can set the Gem::Specification#license attribute
<dduvnjak> i did set it; so i guess i'm covered
<dduvnjak> thanks
<imperator> you can also, of course, include the LICENSE file
<imperator> (and some would say you should)
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<ddd> imperator utterly a side issue. what is your preferred license? BSD, MIT, GPL, LGPL?
<imperator> ddd, all of mine are Artistic 2.0
<ddd> oo. i've heard of that one but never read it. google time.
<ddd> MIT esque?
<ddd> gotta love tldrlegal.com
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<imperator> pretty liberal license
<ddd> https://www.tldrlegal.com/l/artistic - the short summary shows it a license i could see using
<imperator> basically, you can use it, but i own it; if you modify it, you must document it, and don't break my version
<ddd> interesting. how long did it take you to find which license to use? (I'm thinking of changing the license on AnimalTransporterPlus is what started all this along with seeing the comments on the license between you and dduvnjak)
<ddd> ahh yeah i like the last 2 statements
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<ddd> answer as you can, i know you're busy as hell over there so no biggie. idle conversation aimed at a personal decision here :)
<imperator> i don't remember how/when i came across it, except that it was from a perl community member originally iirc
<imperator> and i used to do perl
<imperator> i read the license - it was easy to read and understand, and i liked the terms
<ddd> i haven't touched perl myself in probably 5 or 6 years
<imperator> voila - i chose it
<ddd> simple choice :)
<imperator> busy as hell? nah, unemployed
<ddd> lemme read it and compare to the MIT I'm using now. i might switch
<ddd> oh, i thought you headed your own biz
<ddd> not sure why, but thats what i thought
<imperator> i had an idea to start one, didn't work out
<ddd> i'm trying to get my own rolling. i'm in rural kentucky so there's very little call for coders here, but my wife is a wizard at online marketing, so we're thinking of building out a complete campaign to start the company with as an online-only / telecommuting firm
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<ddd> time is devided though because i went back to college at 43 for diesel technology because this area is really all farming. tons of equipment needing work but not enough mechs to do it all.
<ddd> but coding i find far more challenging
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<imperator> kentucky, eh? been through there many times - had a friend in louisville
<ddd> i'm .. 4-5h from there
<ddd> in tollesboro
<ddd> i'm up in the little nook of KY that joins to WV and OH
<imperator> ah
<imperator> what kind of business if i may ask?
<ddd> coding, network management (like on-call), remote admin, and for locals building systems and writing one-offs (like customized point of sale)
<ddd> i'm writing one now for the general store 2 doors down from my house. i wrote one for the hardware store, and the pizza place is talking to me about doing the same for them
<imperator> point of sale?
<ddd> yeah. cash register + stock tracking, etc
<imperator> using ruby? i think patrick hurley does that (or used to)
<ddd> right now using visual studio and C# for that
<ddd> but i'd like to write in ruby for it. just my confidence levels outside of *pure* ruby (no frameworks like rails or ramaze) is flakey
<ddd> the frameworks make things a big pita
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<imperator> use a smaller framework ;)
<ddd> hehe touche
<imperator> or...make your own
<ddd> what i'm working on is a standalone rails (but i want something different) POS app that can be run off a thumbdrive. but there's quite a few technical challenges to that
<ddd> i'm trying to figure out how to make it auto-select based on the OS (run railsinstaller.org's version if plugged into a windows machine, or a static ruby+rails setup if linux or osx, etc)
<imperator> sinatra maybe?
<ddd> yeah, you're the 3rd person to tell me to try that
<imperator> never used it myself, so can't comment on it personally
<ddd> guess its time to check out sinatra then. Grandad used to say if 1 person tells you something you can ignore it. if 2 people tell you the same thing, keep it in the back of your mind. if more than that do, dude, you better get rollin on it!
<ddd> yeah i've never used sinatra or node.js
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<imperator> well, i'm not if that helps as far as the auto-select
<ddd> well with node i've used pre-baked stuff like hubot
<dwradcliffe> if you want a very thin framework to handle url routing sinatra is great
<ddd> does sinatra have UPC code scanning/reading libraries?
<dwradcliffe> that'd be way outside the scope of sinatra
<ddd> oh, so its really mor elike a thinned down 'rails' like?
<ddd> sinatrarb.com right?
<dwradcliffe> yeah
<dwradcliffe> yep
<ddd> oh it *is* ruby. ok. i thought it might be a different lang
<ddd> ok, time to follow granddad's advise. off to read the sinatra docs. thanks for the push you two
<imperator> there is a upc gem
<ddd> know a name by chance?
<ddd> gpgkeys there is a gem for UPC
<ddd> oops sorry, meant that for my personal channel's bot
<imperator> yes it's called....upc
<ddd> heheh. figures ;)
<ddd> nice! thanks
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<qrush> dwradcliffe: want to figure out deploying now too?
<qrush> also want to add aquaranto to the ssh group so she can help out with tickets
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<dwradcliffe> qrush: I'm actually about to run out the door
<qrush> no worries
<dwradcliffe> will you be around later?
<qrush> maybe
<qrush> most likely no
<qrush> i'd like to revert the color background tomorrow though.
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