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<dwradcliffe> We've started maintenance!
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<dwradcliffe> And we're back!
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<qrush_> woot
<qrush_> dwradcliffe: evan: samkottler ping
<qrush_> seeing some issues on the ML with gems > 1 mb
<qrush_> and a complaint about outgoing email
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<qrush_> also curious if `meg ssh` is the right server still
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<samkottler> qrush_: the mail and large gem issues are both fixed
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<qrush_> Ty samkottler
<drbrain> samkottler: dwradcliffe: \o/
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<electrical> samkottler: you are really everywhere aren't you ? :p
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<drbrain> mpapis: does https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/943 affect you in any way?
<mpapis> let me see
<drbrain> it changes the default gem path to add a vendor dir
<drbrain> … at least, once someone installs a gem there
<mpapis> drbrain, so who uses vendor?
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<drbrain> repackagers will, but I imagine hosting companies with preconfigured VMs could use it too
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<mpapis> drbrain, I mena in rvm there would be no use case for it?
<drbrain> I think it would be unlikely for it to be used with rvm
<mpapis> would it be possible to repoint vendor to @global ?
<mpapis> maybe last part of GEM_PATH?
<drbrain> you could override Gem.vendor_dir through the defaults overrides
<mpapis> can you add GEM_VENDOR env support?
<drbrain> I suppose, but note that you get a warning when using gem uninstall --vendor
<mpapis> that would be sweet, instead of rvm @global do gem install ... - people could use: gem install --vendor ...
<mpapis> uninstall is rare case - for me, I never do that
<drbrain> ok, I'll add GEM_VENDOR ENV support
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<mpapis> drbrain, ... it means right now RG will use 3 paths by default? so I can not assume the provided gems === vendor? I would have to rebuilds GEM_PATH to include all the paths?
<mpapis> provided by ruby
<drbrain> mpapis: up to 3 paths by default, but only after gem install --vendor
<drbrain> and since nobody reads release notes, that'll probably take a long time
<mpapis> yep GEM_VENDOR will do it for me, I will have to write upgrade procedure but it should do it
<mpapis> can you force the path among ruby distributions? the default path is currently a mess
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<drbrain> force the path to what? I don't think I understand
<mpapis> ${path_to_ruby}/vendor_ruby/gems/2.1.0/
<drbrain> what do you want it to be? The above follows what is in RbConfig::CONFIG
<mpapis> the default path to put gems differs between mri, jruby, rbx, would be nice to force it for the vendored path
<drbrain> I'm not sure what I could force it to be sanely without using RbConfig::CONFIG
<drbrain> or am I missing something?
<mpapis> some default + option to read RbConfig::CONFIG should be enough
<drbrain> what default would work across multiple OSes and implementations besides RbConfig::CONFIG though?
<mpapis> any for me, you have most experience on it, I just would prefer to avoid implementation specific code
<drbrain> AFAIK the sanest way is to strictly use RbConfig::CONFIG
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<drbrain> mpapis: GEM_VENDOR implemented, I tagged you in the commit