18:53 <renatosilva> how can I delete a gem version and make it disappear from website? the remaining record is useless

18:57 <havenwood> renatosilva: yank the last version

18:58 <renatosilva> havenwood: are you sure? won't that delete the gem and make it "already taken" when I reupload?

19:04 <havenwood> renatosilva: http://blog.rubygems.org/2015/04/13/permadelete-on-yank.html

19:09 <renatosilva> havenwood: thanks, but weren't the gems being removed already? see this for example https://rubygems.org/gems/easyoptions/versions

19:09 <renatosilva> since the gem versions are dates, we can see that the 2014 versions have been deleted before that blog posts, and the gems were not kept

19:10 <renatosilva> am I missing something?

19:10 <havenwood> renatosilva: Two of the three versions have been yanked. The 2015.2.28 hasn't been yanked. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking?

19:10 <renatosilva> maybe

19:10 <renatosilva> first, I want to remove those removed 2014 versions

19:11 <havenwood> they have been yanked

19:11 <renatosilva> I want to remove that list

19:11 <renatosilva> it's like rm file; ls => file.deleted (instead of empty)

19:13 <renatosilva> havenwood: I want to remove the leftovers, those version records, is there any way to do that?

19:14 <havenwood> renatosilva: Other than unpublishing the gem entirely by yanking the last version, I don't know any way to remove the historical record that those versions were published then yanked.

19:15 <renatosilva> havenwood: I see, so if I yank the latest version the gem will be gone and the page will give a 404?

19:16 <renatosilva> or will it display "this is a removed gem, its name can't be used again, forever"

19:20 <havenwood> renatosilva: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems.org/pull/1371

19:21 <havenwood> renatosilva: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems.org/blob/master/app/models/rubygem.rb#L284

19:22 <havenwood> renatosilva: I think you'd be out of luck for a month, then the name would become available again.

19:23 <havenwood> renatosilva: You could start a ticket with Rubygems if you want to explore other options: http://help.rubygems.org/

19:26 <renatosilva> to me it sounded like it would be still available to the original author

19:31 <renatosilva> havenwood: really bad design in general, but thanks for your valuable help

19:31 <renatosilva> I think I just need to delete all versions, then ask support to make the namespace available again

19:32 <renatosilva> another question, are these download numbers from real people? https://rubygems.org/profiles/renatosilva

19:32 <renatosilva> or are most of them for mirrors, bots, and such?

19:39 <havenwood> renatosilva: It's hard to say how many are real people. There are certainly bots and mirrors but also real people.

19:45 <renatosilva> ok thanks