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<ocdtrekkie>
kentonv: Thanks for the update email!
<kentonv>
:)
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<ocdtrekkie>
Sidenote: I typed "docs" and enter into my browser, kinda expecting to go to Google Docs to retrieve something old. Went to docs.sandstorm.io instead.
<ocdtrekkie>
My browser is learning!
<ocdtrekkie>
Oh my God, what did Google do to this thing? :/
<kentonv>
my browser constantly changes its mind about whether "docs" should autocomplete to docs.sandstorm.io, docs.meteor.com, or various other such pages.
<kentonv>
ocdtrekkie, try drive.google.com
<kentonv>
docs.google.com now only shows documents I guess
<ocdtrekkie>
Oh. Right. I forgot. :/ It's been this long since I've used this.
<kentonv>
it still gets me all the time, too
<kentonv>
I still think of the whole product as Google Docs, not Google Drive
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<ceiphas>
hi!
<kentonv>
hi
<ceiphas>
i'd like to use sandstorm as a corporate colab suite, and i have two questions: 1. is it possible to disable app install for users? (my boss don't want them to play browser quest ;-)) 2. is it possible to disallow re-sharing of shared grains? (my boss is a bit paranoid concerning secrets....)
<kentonv>
ceiphas, unfortunately, no, there's no way to prevent those at present
<kentonv>
I would argue that these are not things your boss should be worrying about, but maybe arguing with your boss isn't the best idea. :/
<kentonv>
well, I suppose you could make it harder for people to install random apps by setting the app market URL to something invalid
<ocdtrekkie>
It would probably not be hard to homebrew up a quick market page that worked and only contained apps you permitted.
<kentonv>
yeah
<kentonv>
technically people could still download the Browser Quest SPK manually and then upload it to the server. But probably people aren't going to go to that trouble to play a game.
<kentonv>
more importantly, you can tell your boss that you disabled installs and he'll believe you.
<ocdtrekkie>
As far as sharing, you can restrict it so that only users in your organization can use your server. And if you're the owner of the file, you can see who it has been shared with.
<kentonv>
as for resharing, it's technically impossible to prevent resharing! Anyone can always copy/paste secrets, no matter what security controls the software implements.
<ocdtrekkie>
And heck, they'll just give each other their passwords if that doesn't work.
<kentonv>
that is, making resharing easy allows people to get work done
<kentonv>
so your boss should see this as a feature and not a bug. :)
<ceiphas>
these were just two questions from my boss...
<kentonv>
(unless he's more worried about keeping his own employees from leaking secrets to each other than he is about them getting work done...)
<ceiphas>
you summarized my boss really well
<kentonv>
eventually we do want to implement the ability to set "policies" where you could specify any arbitrary policy you want about who can share to whom, but we haven't done it yet
<ceiphas>
we aren't simply a office, we produce goods and the workers downstairs use to leak everything, and my boss hates it
<kentonv>
hmm, is it good enough to prohibit them from sharing to people outside the organization?
<kentonv>
or is there actually a problem with them sharing with each other?
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<ceiphas>
it is a problem if our HR boss shares a list of sick days of all workers and it gets re-shared to anyone except the one the HR boss wants
<ceiphas>
it's a problem with the german data security laws
<kentonv>
hmm, and you can't trust the person it has been shared with not to reshare it? Isn't in that person who is violating the laws?
<kentonv>
like, is the person malicious, or is the worry that they will reshare by accident?
<ceiphas>
it is, but the persons in questions are not very techy if you know what i mean... the tend do think that their PC is broken because the screensaver started....
<ceiphas>
by accident is the problem...
<ceiphas>
we know that the simply can copy and paste the data out, but that means intention, not stupidity
<kentonv>
hmm, wouldn't it require intention to click on "share" and enter someone's e-mail address, though?
<ceiphas>
i have users that right click on the task bar and delete it (it's possible on LXDE) by accident...
<kentonv>
hmm
<kentonv>
well, yeah, this is why we want to implement policies
<kentonv>
mostly I think it just "feels" good to disable resharing, though I think it practice it won't ever be an issue. But the feeling is real.
<kentonv>
unfortunately I don't know exactly when we'll be able to implement it.
<kentonv>
though if it's something you would spend money on I can connect you to someone who can do the work on a contract basis
<kentonv>
argh, when I try to load two heap profiles into Chrome for comparison, it crashes.
<kentonv>
This damned leak thwarts every attempt to debug it.
<ceiphas>
i'm very disappointed by chrome in the last weeks, my PC crashes constantly when it's uptime is above a week
<ceiphas>
i even tried vivaldi, but it feels strange
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<TimMc>
yikes
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<Miklide>
Hello everyone! i am just playing around with Rocket chat app. And I am slightly confused as how to get server external adress/link. Is there way to get outside people to register wtihout sandstorm account? Like regular web service?