02:09 <rjBadger> So I am really liking the sandstorm platform, but I am noticing that some apps are pretty out of date (Rocket.Chat and SharedLatex for example). How difficult is it to package up apps yourself, or is it just easier to stick with the out of date apps on the marketplace?

16:57 <xet7> rjBadger: Sometime there was idea to update SharedLatex, but it's not done yet, there is link to that port at https://sandstormports.github.io . In general, I did think of moving unmaintained Sandstorm apps to Sandstormports and looking at updating them. Would you like to participate?

17:00 <xet7> rjBadger: I don't think updating is hard, it just takes some time. It's just looking at Sandstorm port specific changes, keeping them, and applying newest code from upstream.

17:07 <rjBadger> I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to this, but if I can help sure

17:09 <xet7> Yes being a newbie is great. For Wekan, newbies have done great features https://blog.wekan.team/2018/05/wekan-v1-00-released/index.html

17:10 <xet7> rjBadger: Do you have GitHub account?

17:18 <rjBadger> yup https://github.com/rjBadger

17:22 <xet7> rjBadger: Have you used SharedLatex?

17:28 <rjBadger> ive used overleaf, but the shared latex code itself is new to me

17:29 <xet7> It seems that I moved SharedLates to SandstormPorts at 4 Sep 2018 https://github.com/sandstormports/sharelatex/issues

17:29 <xet7> We'll try to figure out what to do next

17:31 <xet7> rjBadger: You could try to find SharedLatex upstream repo with google search

17:36 <rjBadger> Yeaa ill try to look into it. Its all new to me, but I'll see if I can get anywhere.

17:38 <rjBadger> It sounds like rocket.chat is a maintaned package then. Do you know why it so outdated currently?

17:38 <xet7> rjBadger: nobody has done updated rocketchat package

17:39 <xet7> rjBadger: So we figure out from RocketChat repos and google searches how it works

17:43 <xet7> rjBadger: Newest RocketChat server upstrem repo seems to be here: https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat

17:43 <xet7> rjBadger: I'll look where Sandstorm RocketChat repo is

17:45 <rjBadger> yea thats what I cant seem to figure out. im trying to build that locally using the sandstorm packaging tutorial for meteor apps, but keep running into issues. I was wondering what the previous package build proccess was like

17:45 <xet7> rjBadger: I see from Sandstorm Rocket.Chat info that Rocket.Chat as been updated latest 2017 Feb 22

17:45 <xet7> rjBadger: I see that from Sandstorm app info

17:46 <xet7> rjBadger: It seems that Sandstorm RocketChat repo points to RocketChat upstream repo. I'll look at upstream repo issues why it has not been updated.

17:47 <rjBadger> yea, it seems that upstream packages a sandstorm spk but its out of step with there other versions

17:47 <xet7> rjBadger: https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sandstorm

17:55 <xet7> rjBadger: I'll try to look how to build RocketChat Sandstorm package

17:56 <xet7> what https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/pull/13773

17:56 <xet7> removed Sandstorm support?

17:56 <rjBadger> Yea, thanks. I dug around the official repos abit and could find it. I know the default vagrant-spk dev step fails.

17:58 <rjBadger> hmm, looks like there just giving up on updating it themselves. that sucks

17:59 <xet7> rjBadger: That's not a problem. Now that I found where Sandstorm support was removed, I can make fork to SandstormPorts and apply changes back.

18:00 <rjBadger> awesome, they mentioned alot of sandstorm specific changes that they were maintaining. Guess that explains why the default packaging pipeline was not working.

18:01 <xet7> Yes, JamborJan looked at build pipeline a little at https://github.com/zenhack/docker-spk/issues/9

18:01 <xet7> JamborJan did maintain WordPress package etc, but then he did not have time anymore

18:02 <xet7> I have not used Docker to build Sandstorm packages. I use meteor-spk for building Wekan package.

18:03 <xet7> Both Wekan and RocketChat use Meteor Javascript framework, that is Node+Mongo

18:04 <xet7> And some RocketChat features related to login have been ported to Wekan, with some modifications

18:05 <xet7> There also some Wekan<=>RocketChat integration being planned

18:06 <xet7> Like this https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/2408

18:06 <xet7> And this https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/2434

18:06 <rjBadger> yea that all sounds great. truthfully wekan is the reason I checked out sandstorm in the first place, and rocket chat was just a nice bonus. I would definatly be interested in helping anyway I can to make sure rocketchat stays up to date on sandstorm

18:07 <xet7> Yes, I will look at some Sandstorm Wekan features like this https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/2405

18:07 <xet7> to get user management working

18:07 <rjBadger> I might be doing it wrong but trying to build rocket.chat with the meteor-spk keeps failing at the vagrant-spk dev step, so something is off i think.

18:08 <xet7> did you include that PR that removed Sandstorm stuff?

18:08 <rjBadger> hmm, probably did actually

18:09 <xet7> One way would be to git checkout to commit before removal PR

18:09 <xet7> and try to build that first

18:11 <xet7> I did fork rocketchat to https://github.com/sandstormports/Rocket.Chat

18:12 <xet7> I'll try how to build it

18:20 <rjBadger> Yea, lunch break is over unfotunatly, but I will try to look at this later. Thanks for all the help.

18:37 <xet7> :)

19:29 <xet7> rjBadger: I found this https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/pull/9663

22:16 <rjBadger> looks like there might be hope? as a temporary workaround there is this https://github.com/peterlee0127/RocketChat-for-Sandstorm which updates an existing grain. I dont know how to get my current grain id though

22:17 <rjBadger> Hopefully the rocket.chat folks do go back and add sandstorm support back in. Seems like mobile notifications are the current blocker?