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<abliss> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-09/hackers-expose-tesla-jails-in-breach-of-150-000-security-cams#:~:text=Kottmann%20says%20they%20found%20a,the%20luxury%20gym%20chain%20Equinox.
<abliss> "Verkada cameras in Cloudflare offices in San Francisco, Austin, London and New York. The cameras at Cloudflare’s headquarters rely on facial recognition"
<simpson> Nice.
<JacobWeisz[m]> Your opportunity to see Kenton at work.
<abliss> kentonvmaybe you should encourage Cloudflare to invest in a self-hosting platformm for their surveillance dystopia
<JacobWeisz[m]> What's stupid here is video surveillance has incredible good self-hosted platforms already, and sending video to the cloud to store is incredibly wasteful.
<abliss> which self-hosted surveillance platforms are good? (i'm totally ignorant)
<JacobWeisz[m]> Milestone XProtect is basically an industry standard. It's proprietary but everyone and everything can integrate with it easily.
<JacobWeisz[m]> It's basically the Microsoft Windows of video surveillance.
<JacobWeisz[m]> The only real downside... it runs on Microsoft Windows, so that does set kinda a price minimum on an NVR that runs it.
<JacobWeisz[m]> (If you're a large enterprise this is fine. If you're not a large enterprise, an open source one like iSpy might be fine.)
<JacobWeisz[m]> But hard drives are drastically cheaper than the bandwidth for streaming video upload, I'd argue streaming video is hands down the worst thing you could ship to the cloud from a... like... physics standpoint.
<JacobWeisz[m]> abliss: I wouldn't consider all surveillance cameras a dystopia though. Surveilling your own property is arguably just a good idea. The issue is if law enforcement is able to get it without permission (as they often are with cloud services) or if a business owner uses it unethically, such as to micromanage employees.
<JacobWeisz[m]> ...Wait, could the Verkada hackers access the video feed of the lava lamps used to seed some of Cloudflare's security?!?!
<TimMc__> I have a porch camera, but it's hardwired to a laptop that just keeps a 7 day buffer of motion captures.
<TimMc__> Technically you could hack into one of my home servers and then pivot from there to the camera computer, but it could just as easily have the ethernet cord unplugged most of the time. :-)
<TimMc__> (We had some package thieves a while back.)
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