01:30 <lkcl> remake looks really useful. debugging how make err makes its decisions can be... obtuse

16:32 <mkk_> [Tim Edwards, skywater-pdk] I don't see any particularly relevant topics at FOSDEM 2021?

16:36 <mkk_> [Sylvain Munaut, skywater-pdk] EDA dev room would be the best match probably : https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/track/open_source_computer_aided_modeling_and_design/

19:51 <mkk_> [Tim Edwards, skywater-pdk] @tnt: I looked that that earlier, but it is very much oriented toward 3D printers and board-level stuff. It would have been nice to see a room devoted to open source silicon.

19:52 <mkk_> [Sylvain Munaut, skywater-pdk] yeah it's more about mechanical and electrical CAD, application for devrooms are closed now, so any talk would have to fit into one of the approved ones.

21:59 <lkcl> Staf and probably LIP6 (Sorbonne University, alliance/coriolis2) are likely going to submit under the CAD / design track too

21:59 <lkcl> although hypothetically because coriolis2 is mostly python it could fit under the main python one

22:00 <lkcl> this FOSDEM is weird because the Open Hardware devroom, which was introduced only 2 years ago, is missing

22:01 <lkcl> but, honestly, because it is all entirely online this year i don't think it makes much difference, i think they will be flexible :)

22:01 <mkk_> [Sylvain Munaut, skywater-pdk] OTOH ... it's virtual so ...

22:02 <lkcl> yehyeh :)

22:03 <lkcl> the one thing about FOSDEM: it's *big*. 8,000 real-world visitors a year for 20 years when it was hosted at Brussels University