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<ArmbianTwitter> @drtune (DrTune): @beajammingh @ryanhuber eh I actually disagree; I get a lot of embedded systems images (armbian etc) and the torrents are pretty snappy and well seeded (31s ago)
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<archetech> looking for a rock64 testing image focal desktop kern 5.6 or.7
<archetech> all I see is 5.4
<[TheBug]> then there probably isn't one with the newer kernel
<[TheBug]> get 5.4 and compile your own kernel
<[TheBug]> for 5.6 or 5.7 if you need
<archetech> ok
<archetech> after dd the img whats the sdcard partiton layout like?
<archetech> how many partitons
<archetech> looks like just one unlike ayufans
<archetech> kern panic 3 times unable to handle null pointer at virt address
<archetech> comes after hware optimization
<archetech> either kern config is off or uboot/dtb
<archetech> such is life on a v2 rock64 at armbian I thought id try after a few months
<[TheBug]> would sound to me like maybe a difference in uboot re: timings and such, may want to see if you can find an image that works for you and use the dtb from it on a newer image and see
<archetech> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/9674-rk3328-kernel/page/28/ seems its till corrupting the file system during the initail boot
<archetech> initial*
<archetech> sdcard voltage or sumthing
<archetech> so yeah id have to fiddle with some totally new rock64 image or build one myself which I can do sometime
<archetech> I have other distros working was just curious again
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<archetech> Build host OS release [ bionic ] I set it for focal doesnt take that
<archetech> git checkout of v20.02
<archetech> FORCE_CHECKOUT=no too
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<IgorPec> archetech: add EXPERT="yes" to the config
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<IgorPec> martinayotte: hey
<IgorPec> mrueg: hi
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<mrueg> IgorPec: hey
<IgorPec> did you ran any tests on this ?
<IgorPec> i can't find the reasonsing for the troubles
<mrueg> not yet, got late last night
<IgorPec> sure, np
<IgorPec> look this is one anomaly
<mrueg> that one is surprising
<IgorPec> if you five apt double qoted packages, it certainly fails
<IgorPec> not logical, but this is how it works ;)
<mrueg> I would recommend to set # shellcheck ignore=SCXXXX in the line before
<mrueg> so it will ignore the specific check and you won't have failing builds because of the next attempt to limit shellcheck
<IgorPec> aha, this way its solved
<IgorPec> because there will be some exceptions for sure, unless we find a way to code it differently
<IgorPec> should be checked manually if quotes are changed
<mrueg> IgorPec: testing a build now
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<IgorPec> i fixed one problem regarding cache creation and u-boot creation bug also, just need to add it
<IgorPec> with my fixes it should. i am checking chroot compilation now and it looks fine
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<mrueg> IgorPec: thanks! unfortunately my laptop died during the build
<IgorPec> due to battery or our scripts ? :)
<mrueg> battery. it's a 3 year old dell now ;) probably did too much compilation for gentoo
<mrueg> btw. what's the best approach to change a kernel config and provide that patch to armbian?
<mrueg> run through the menu and apply the changes there (is it written to disk anywhere outside of the image?)?
<IgorPec> yes
<IgorPec> output/config/
<mrueg> ah sweet. thanks! :)
<IgorPec> output/config/linux-rockchip64-dev.config which you copy to config/kernel and make a PR
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<TRS-80> Ohai
<IgorPec> hej hej
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<TRS-80> Hey IgorPec! :D
<TRS-80> I just wrote you back at OpenHAB
<TRS-80> Well that's what motivated me to re-appear (partly). :)
<TRS-80> Been thinking about it anyway
<IgorPec> yeah, pretty much the same as here. i got school kids too, and they had last day yesterday
<IgorPec> they are home now and they were at the time corona was roaring around, so yeah
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<lanefu> TRS-80: !
<TRS-80> lanefu: Aay mate! :)
<lanefu> good to see you
<TRS-80> likewise :)
<TRS-80> I bumped into Igor of all people, over at OpenHAB forums, where each of us were apparently independently trying to help the heathens to see the light XD
<TRS-80> but I been thinking about coming back around anyway (at least IRC) as I been missing you guys
<lanefu> haha.. i hope you enlightened at least one soul
<lanefu> so.. openhab configuration.. is that done in UI, or config files?
<martinayotte> IgorPec: Good Morning !
<IgorPec> gday :)
<IgorPec> regarding sunxi .. do we have a solution for overlays?
<martinayotte> IgorPec: I didn't look at it yet, but I will since I'm an overlay fan :-)
<IgorPec> great. that is the remaining issue, then we can merge and test
<martinayotte> Ok ! I will build that branch and look at the issue ...
<IgorPec> ok, the rest is in reasonoble good shape
<Werner> Hey
<mrueg> IgorPec: thanks for the merge, are kernels for 20.05 build from master?
<IgorPec> beta.armbian.com will be updated soon
<IgorPec> from master
<TRS-80> If I am not mistaken, martinayotte is a new addition since I last appeared? Nice to see you martinayotte!
<IgorPec> :) Martin is here since ever
<IgorPec> but not very active here on IRC i supoose
<TRS-80> Maybe +v is new on him then? Or I am simply mistaken (happens often enough, lol)
<Werner> Martin has v since he joined a few...month ago I guess?
<IgorPec> that's Werner doing
<Werner> TRS-80, feel free to take a look at help irc to get an overview of what services are now there and what features we have.
<Werner> help irc
<ArmbianHelper> You want some? There you go: Terrific knowledge about our IRC services! https://docs.armbian.com/Community_IRC/
<TRS-80> Werner: Yes Igor pointed that out to me in our PM at OpenHAB. I was sure it was your doing. ;) Very nice work! :)
<Werner> Thank you. I appreciate it.
<TRS-80> lanefu: Very good question. Often recommended in forums is to use PaperUI to do initial config because of auto-discovery, etc. Problem is it puts stuff in internal database and gives you weird random item names. I am re-doing my setup, and this time took small extra time to put /everything/ in text files. This way I have a complete system, in a repository, and can completely re-create from
<TRS-80> scratch if needed. I am sure I am preaching to the chior in this regard to Mr. "Site Reliability Engineer" ;)
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<TRS-80> Also, @ lanefu (or others)... Todays sermon: https://community.openhab.org/t/best-hardware-platform/9542/289 ;)
<lanefu> TRS-80: ha... I use HASS, which used to be fun beause it was all yaml driven config.. but it's been evolving to integrations via UI.. which is good.. but... also ba
<lanefu> s/ba/bad
<ArmbianHelper> lanefu meant to say: TRS-80: ha... I use HASS, which used to be fun beause it was all yaml driven config.. but it's been evolving to integrations via UI.. which is good.. but... also bad
<TRS-80> ^ neat!
<lanefu> yeah that one is dope
<Werner> .sed
<ArmbianHelper> You made a typo and now suffering from psychic trauma? No worries! You and even anybody else can fix your inability using sed! Using s/search/replace will affect your last message or if you mention somebody his/her last message. Be a hero. Be Correctionman!
<TRS-80> HASS is HomeAssistant? I think I have also referred to it as HA? Or these are different things?
<TRS-80> lanefu: ^
<TRS-80> Werner: I would likely have found that one on accident, as I frequently to s/foo/bar anyway... :)
<Werner> ^^
<TRS-80> s/to/do
<ArmbianHelper> TRS-80 meant to say: Werner: I would likely have found that one on accident, as I frequently do s/foo/bar anyway... :)
<TRS-80> see lol
<Werner> perfect :)
<Werner> 512 Kb of memory (on minimal or server image)
<Werner> Do such boards even exist?
<lanefu> yeah hass == homeassistant
<lanefu> yeah the naming got a little weird, because there was like also a RPI distro
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<mrueg> Werner: ESP32 maybe ;)
<lanefu> yeah ESP32 woudl be close... lichee pi
<buZz> HASS on a esp32? :D
<buZz> lol, would love to see that
<lanefu> haha
<lanefu> hass for micropython
<buZz> we have ESPHome in HASS, its really nice
<buZz> you can commission sensors from HASS, and it poops out a firmware you can flash to a esp , and its automagically a sensor in hass afterwards
<lanefu> yeah ESPhome is pretty cool.. i prefer to use tasmota when i can... but i used esphome for this and it was pretty easy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0SVi5_nN-c
<buZz> does tasmota do anything beside lamps?
<lanefu> yeah supports a lot of sensors
<buZz> ah TIL
<lanefu> i use it with DHT22 sensors.. and supports power montering etc
<buZz> tasmota bricked my lamp on a recent update :(
<buZz> need to tear it apart to reach programming pins now
<lanefu> Xiamoi Desk Lamp?
<buZz> too much effort :P
<buZz> no, eh, a SLC lamp, i think
<buZz> LSC*
<lanefu> yeah i've got it running on 2 of the xiomi desk lamps.. pretty cool... i did brick it once...
<buZz> originally was running Tuya from the store
<lanefu> but most of my wall switches adn dimmers are running tasmota now
<buZz> nice
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<TRS-80> ESP Peasants! MySensors mustard race! Make your own sensors from scratch, or go home! :p
<TRS-80> lanefu: Jokes aside, how reliable are your ESP based switches?
<TRS-80> modules, whatever... I mean in general
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<lanefu> quite
<lanefu> havent had any issues with them
<buZz> TRS-80: the ESPHome ones we use at hackerspace have a avg uptime of over 2 years now
<buZz> 99% of 'my ESP is unstable' issues are just powersupply related
<buZz> maybe 99.99999%
<lanefu> and from a usablility perspective, more reliable than my zwave stuff
<lanefu> zwave just like unpairs or something randomly adn makes me angry
<lanefu> whoa....
<lanefu> IgorPec: what's all this build: igorpecovnik released Armbian 20.05 (Kagu) (v20.05): [Downloads Here](https://www.armbian.com/download/)... (https://git.io/Jfhbi)
<IgorPec> we forgot to release 20.05 on Github
<IgorPec> its pointing towards v20.05 branch so it should be cool
<lanefu> :)
<IgorPec> i wouldn't notice but Github redisgn poped this up
<IgorPec> 4th of july we have a meeting
<TRS-80> My first attempt at venturing into ESP8266 resulted in purchase of non ESP8266 based outlet modules, sadly. :( https://github.com/ct-Open-Source/tuya-convert/issues/484
<lanefu> 4th of july is kind of a holiday in 'merica
<lanefu> TRS-80: yeah i feel like the glory days of tuya are ending
<IgorPec> ok, then we move it to other day?
<IgorPec> its just a predicted date.
<lanefu> yea if you dont mind
<IgorPec> no, i will adjsust
<buZz> TRS-80: maybe get a 'wemos d1 mini' , its a nice esp8266 board
<buZz> <4 usd, iirc
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<archetech> I do git checkout v20.05 and
<archetech> sudo ./compile.sh FORCE_CHECKOUT=no BOARD=rock64 BRANCH=current RELEASE=buster BUILD_MINIMAL=yes BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=yes
<archetech> keep getting o.k. ] Build host OS release [ bionic ]
<IgorPec> no, you add LIB_TAG="v20.05"
<IgorPec> but what is your goal?
<archetech> tried that too
<lanefu> HOST_OS == host you're building from.. not target
<IgorPec> yes
<IgorPec> it just tells you what's detected
<archetech> ah ok but I still see it dl;ing v18.04 bionic
<IgorPec> i am on mint for example
<lanefu> screenshot?
<archetech> so LIB_TAG makes git checkout redundant?
<IgorPec> you want to create focal image or what?
<IgorPec> LIB_TAG is needed, otherwise it will jump back to master
<archetech> yes focal with 5.6/7 kernel
<IgorPec> than you just use master
<IgorPec> but 5.7 for rockchip hasn't been merged yet
<archetech> 5.6 is ok
<IgorPec> ok, then just build
<IgorPec> kernels are legacy, current, dev
<IgorPec> dev = 5.6 ->
<archetech> ok
<IgorPec> and can only be seen if you add EXPERT="yes" as a parameter
<archetech> ah
<IgorPec> yeah, this is beacause we don't want that newbies builds dev kernels and complain
<archetech> hows this look?
<archetech> sudo ./compile.sh CLEAN_LEVEL=make,debs,images,sources FORCE_CHECKOUT=no BOARD=rock64 BRANCH=dev RELEASE=focal LIB_TAG=v20.05 BUILD_MINIMAL=yes BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=yes EXPERT=yes
<IgorPec> yes
<IgorPec> looks ok
<archetech> getting 5.4.0 kern sources
<archetech> will it let me change that after it gets them?
<IgorPec> no, wait
<archetech> ctrl c
<TRS-80> buZz: I have couple on the way as we speak (d1 mini) as well some others, also ESP32, etc... :)
<buZz> cool
<buZz> TRS-80: #arduino knows a lot about them
<buZz> also #esp8266 exists
<TRS-80> I started with MYSensors which is Arduino (usu. Pro Mini) plus choice of radio (often nRF24) so I am not complete noob
<TRS-80> Just switched to PlatformIO and preferring it a lot over official Arduino IDE!
<TRS-80> official IDE almost completely turned me off to Arduino development altogether in the past! Only reason coming back now, is because I finally got around to playing with PlatformIO!
<IgorPec> archetech: use master
<IgorPec> i have no idea why it keep switching to master
<IgorPec> there were some changes merged today to fix this but perhaps not completly
<archetech> what do I change to do that
<IgorPec> ./compile
<buZz> TRS-80: fine by me, just saying there's a big pile of ppl to ask esp8266 specific stuff in there ;)
<archetech> branch=master ?
<IgorPec> no, RTFM :)
<IgorPec> ./compile.sh EXPERT="yes"
<IgorPec> the rest choose manually
<archetech> ok
<TRS-80> buZz: So far I found what I need by searching Internet; but thanks! Somehow I only seem to use IRC for #linux, #bash, #python and even those only rarely (and less often as I go along...)
<lanefu> wait.. do people actually talk to you in #linux
<archetech> target OS no focal choice that way?
<buZz> TRS-80: irc is a treasure trove of knowledge, just need to find the right people ;)
<IgorPec> EXPERT="yes" and will be
<IgorPec> you have to choose IMAGE making, not just kernel
<TRS-80> lanefu: Yes, the key is don't go in there saying you are "hashicorp nomad" or such buzzwords :p
<archetech> leg currect dev
<lanefu> and "plex isn't working"
<TRS-80> lanefu: Oh yes also small distinction... the chanel is technically ##linux; if you are in #linux you are in overflow or your nick is not registered!
<TRS-80> ^ may help the response rate... :) ^
<lanefu> haha
<archetech> IgorPec: might want to try expert=yes yourself if ya dont beleive me
<IgorPec> EXPERT="yes"
<archetech> ya quotes
<IgorPec> we might have an issue for building images
<IgorPec> today some shellcheck changes were merged and they broke many things
<TRS-80> help rtfm
<IgorPec> i am fixing things all day long and i guess end image is empty :(
<TRS-80> Werner: I see some opportunity for improvement here ^ ;p
<TRS-80> help
<ArmbianHelper> Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
<TRS-80> aha!
<archetech> so ya tell me to read which I have and Ive built before AND oh it's broke too
<IgorPec> archetech: until i fix this problem, you will be finished with the docs and know exactly what can be done
<archetech> thats not sane advice
<TRS-80> archetech: I am not picking on you, mate, just playing with Werner IRC bot
<TRS-80> (which is new to me)
<IgorPec> it is possible that is broken. i just build an image and it doesn't boot. i suspect https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/2061/files
<archetech> ok so its broke just dont tell me to rtfm
<IgorPec> RTFM is mandatory
<TRS-80> archetech: RTFM! :p
<IgorPec> its polite
<IgorPec> if nothing else
<archetech> I wasnt doing the command wrong
<lanefu> yeah i never use quotes and it works for me :P
<TRS-80> nothin personell
<TRS-80> s/nothin/nothing
<ArmbianHelper> TRS-80 meant to say: nothing personell
<archetech> wasnt you trw igor and his "nice" ways
<archetech> TRS*
<IgorPec> i said its possible broken, so wait that i check and fix
<archetech> TRS
<lanefu> s/personell/personal
<ArmbianHelper> lanefu thinks TRS-80 meant to say: nothin personal
<TRS-80> no
<TRS-80> is this your first day o nthe Internet?
<lanefu> you be punning
<IgorPec> ok, where is the bug in the code
<TRS-80> memeing
<IgorPec> ?:)
<archetech> wonder if its ubu 18 vs ubu20 causing the issue
<IgorPec> no, its shellcheck
<archetech> ok
<IgorPec> fucking thing totally
<IgorPec> both is correct, but ... image doesn't boot :)
<archetech> whos doin the PR's ?
<IgorPec> in the past few days we want to clean things up that shellcheck would pass
<IgorPec> and we learn the hard way, that automatec code corrections sucks
<IgorPec> or you have to check also most obvious ones
<Werner> TRS-80, basically help is the same as .rtfm earlier.
<ArmbianHelper> Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
<archetech> lol the AI aint quite there yat eh
<IgorPec> for sure
<IgorPec> but its a cosmetical issue ... well, now, its almost done
<Werner> help is only recognized when written solo (regex: ^help$) but rtfm with the dot within a sentence as well
<TRS-80> Werner: Yes I realized when playing with it as you can see above, and now with dot, thanks for explanation!
<IgorPec> get 1h and stufy the docs, until then, I will find what is the problem and you will know how to use the tool in detail
<TRS-80> so some stuff rtfm no
<archetech> ok ill look for an annoucemnt here when you have it tested/working
<TRS-80> but if you write .rtfm then yes
<ArmbianHelper> Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
<TRS-80> or perhaps .help ?
<TRS-80> guess not
<TRS-80> rtfm
<TRS-80> hmm
<Werner> feel free to use #armbian-test for that
<TRS-80> now you tell me XD
<Werner> You did not ask :P
<TRS-80> Werner is a bot I think
<TRS-80> :p
<Werner> A bot that creates bots...That's kind a inception thingy
<TRS-80> whoa.jpg
* archetech does a ubu 18 vm upgrade
<archetech> dont upgrade the builder vm! pffft
<Werner> .fortune
<ArmbianHelper> Mark's Dental-Chair Discovery: Dentists are incapable of asking questions that require a simple yes or no answer.
<TRS-80> aha! great! :)
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<IgorPec> archetech: git pull and go
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<nekomancer[m]> Can there be added btrfs rootfs? `sudo ./compile.sh CLEAN_LEVEL=make,debs,images,sources FORCE_CHECKOUT=no BOARD=rock64 BRANCH=dev RELEASE=focal LIB_TAG=v20.05 BUILD_MINIMAL=yes BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=yes EXPERT=yes`
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<Dr{Who}> nekomancer[m], I have not tested but was planning on testing so let me know. In lib.config add ROOTFS_TYPE=btrfs
<nekomancer[m]> ok
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<archetech> IgorPec: its building
<IgorPec> great. its on 5.7.y, i merge that PR in
<IgorPec> and i am also plying with rockchip64 atm
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<Dr{Who}> IgorPec, what board? I have a rock64 I run docker on for my home. I want the new RockPro64. They packed a lot of cool stuff onto it.
<IgorPec> currently doing something with rockpi4
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<archetech> is there anything you guys didnt enable in the kernel ? jeepers
<[TheBug]> Think of the common person who's running Armbian and they skill level.. if there wasn't most things enabled then people would be here every 10 minutes asking about modules or including their specific driver.. so I assume the idea is provide most / easiest compatability possible for all types of users.
<[TheBug]> s/they/their
<ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: Think of the common person who's running Armbian and their skill level.. if there wasn't most things enabled then people would be here every 10 minutes asking about modules or including their specific driver.. so I assume the idea is provide most / easiest compatability possible for all types of users.
<archetech> yes its big for coverage
<IgorPec> archetech: huh. what are you missing?
<IgorPec> its quite a big config
<IgorPec> Hey [TheBug]
<archetech> nuttin it justtakes long time to build when pleasing the common denom
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<[TheBug]> IgorPec: hey
<IgorPec> hej
<archetech> gots me an img lets see if it boots
<TRS-80> >its quite a big config
<TRS-80> 4u
<archetech> Ill give it a haircut next time no media or nas
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<archetech> nope same thing as before no boot just red/white lights on
<IgorPec> you got some rk3399?
<archetech> no just the r64
<IgorPec> huh, this one is the most problematic one
<IgorPec> ok, i can check in the following days if it runs with on latest trunk
<archetech> Armbian_20.08.0-trunk_Rock64_focal_dev_5.7.6_minimal.img is what it built
<IgorPec> yes, that's fine. i made numerous build for rockpi4 today and it works
<archetech> remb mines a v2 lanefus builds work on his v2 same build dont on mine we tested it 3 mons ago
<IgorPec> yeah, i know.
<archetech> was hoping a uboot/dtb change occurred gues not
<IgorPec> must hiberneate. tty tomorrow
<archetech> cya
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