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<lanefu>
IgorPec: no kidding.
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Is there a benchmark website that compare kernel compilation performance of CPU
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
* Is there a benchmark website that compare kernel compilation performance of CPU?
<archetech>
phoronix
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @DonGonzone @njcw @armbian Did not plan to make one since even though it sounds fancy it is kind a poorly hacked together and also suffering from performance issues. https://tinyurl.com/y7ycrq74 (19s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@appelboor (Sander ⭐): @haerwu I wont' touch it unless it is Supported by Armbian. https://tinyurl.com/ycq86zb3 (28s ago)
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<IgorPec>
good morning
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<Werner>
kprasadvnsi[m], don't know if there is a website but from guts feel I'd say the fastest sbc to do such jobs is the Odroid N2+ atm.
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
My laptop is real slow for compiling kernel. Thinking of building a PC. So far best CPU I can find in budget is R7 3700X
<lanefu>
kprasadvnsi[m]: I can give you a VM
<lanefu>
with lots of cores
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<lanefu "kprasadvnsi: I can give you a VM"> that would be nice.
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
anybody wrote MIPI DSI driver? mine doesn't work for some reason
<lanefu>
Send me preferred login name and ssh public key
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<ashthespy>
Hey! Long time, hope everyone is doing well! :-)
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<ashthespy>
If someone is on, have a quick question about using docker to build -- where is the `./cache/sources` folder stored? I'd like to go in there and poke around..
<Werner>
Isnt it simply stored in the build directory?
<nekomancer[m]>
in /tmp
<nekomancer[m]>
oops, sorry, forget it
<ashthespy>
> Isnt it simply stored in the build directory?
<ashthespy>
That was what I thought, but none of my changes there are sticking..
<ashthespy>
I thought `${SRC}` was bind mounted into the container.. but this isn't the case..
<ashthespy>
It probably doesn't help that I earlier used to build directly on the host, so some folders are still around..
<Manouchehri>
yeah, I forgot I was using a Pine64 and not the Orange Pi that I shorted out
<IgorPec>
its low end device
<ashthespy>
What is the current fav board for Armbian? Use case is a home server for IoT giggles.. My old orange pi one (h3) hit an uptime of 128 days and then the SD card saw it's ghost.. Instead of getting a new sd card, thought I could upgrade the board as well :-D
<Manouchehri>
^ you beat me to the question.
<Manouchehri>
ideally with a 1Gb port and USB 3 :P
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<Werner>
There is no direct answer to that question. It depends on your needs
<Manouchehri>
cheap as possible with 1Gb port and USB 3? :P
<ashthespy>
> yeah, nice, haven't got to that board yet
<ashthespy>
No dice.. I thought it was a simple matter of increasing the `fdt_addr_r` to accommodate the larger kernel images for 5.10.y, but no luck.. forgot rock pi s is still on custom u-boot fork..
<IgorPec>
but there is mainline support for S
<Werner>
Low power high performance desktop, get pbp or ROC-RK3399 PC PLUS (or Station P1 which is the same with a case welded around) or Nanopi M4V2
<IgorPec>
but never got there
<Werner>
Want a high performance board for router application get Nanopi R4S
<Werner>
Alrounder for low/medium desktop usage and/or server OrangePi3 for example
<Manouchehri>
niiiiiice, I missed the news about the Nanopi R4S!
<IgorPec>
ashthespy: adding to our patch set and trying out?
<Manouchehri>
Werner: doesn't the NanoPi R4S have a better value? It has dual gigabit and USB 3
<ashthespy>
I can try, but I lack u-boot plumbing skills..
<Werner>
If you need dual Gbit it definitely has
<Manouchehri>
I love dual Gbit
<ashthespy>
Plus the rockpis is a bit of a black sheep in the rest of the board family setup :-D But yes, will give it a shot.. My current "simple" patch doesn't boot..
<IgorPec>
IMO patch should just align to 2021.01
<IgorPec>
i also played with addresses but withouit luck. then some other stuff came in
<Werner>
I dont have real world application for dual GBe but as I wrote: I just knew I need to have it :P
<Werner>
Because its so cool
<stipa>
it's ok for traffic monitoring i guess
<ashthespy>
IgorPec I am at a loss when it comes to the `uboot_custom_postprocess` part
<Manouchehri>
Werner: I've started to sorta "live" with single WAN situations by using lots of VLANs and bridges, but it's kinda annoying at times lol
<Werner>
haha
<Manouchehri>
I've got a really fudged up network setup right now
<Manouchehri>
it works well, but wow.
<IgorPec>
asthespy: that part is probably also needed for modern u-boot. not sure atm
<stipa>
yeah, things can get complex with networks
<Werner>
If you wanna go cheaper check the Nanopi R2S which also has dual GBe
<Manouchehri>
oooo
<Werner>
Or go for the rip-off version of Orangepi the R1+
<Manouchehri>
yeah I'm going buy as many as I think I want for the next year.
<Manouchehri>
customs and shipping is ironically such a challenge for where I live.
<Werner>
So?
<Manouchehri>
I think I get dinged like $10-$50 for each shipment.
<stipa>
NanoPi R4S is nice
<stipa>
i like the price
<Manouchehri>
i like the stock
<Manouchehri>
wait wrong channel
<stipa>
are those two usb ports 6Gbs each or ?
<stipa>
those two ports share one 6Gbs chip?
<Werner>
?
<ashthespy>
IgorPec Thanks for the tips, will give it a shot! :-)
<Werner>
Ah. Dont know. I think they are shared
<Manouchehri>
is the NanoPi R4S the newest?
<IgorPec>
ashthespy: also ping piter75 on GH - he knows more about those boards
<stipa>
Werner: yeah, if they're not share the board is even sexier than it is
<Werner>
It is the most recent board from FriendlyELEC IIRC if that answers the question
<Manouchehri>
Werner: ya, thanks!
<Manouchehri>
dang, the case is way cheaper on the NanoPi R2S.
<Werner>
I did not get the case for it. I designed my own fan hat for the R4S
<Werner>
However with OC enabled it most likely would not have survived sbc-bench in the case while with active cooling it has :)
<Manouchehri>
hmm, is the perf of the R4S really much better than R2S?
<Werner>
Search for benchmarks comparing RK3399 to RK3328 to get an idea about that
<Manouchehri>
oh more cache probably helps
<Manouchehri>
butttt
<Manouchehri>
I can literally get two NEO3-LTS units for the price of one R4S with a case.
<Werner>
As in most cases: everything depends on your needs. And the neo3 case ist just poor plastics. I wish they would come up with something proper like for the R2S and R4S
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<Manouchehri>
anything else like the neo3 around the same price?
<[TheBug]>
although one of my personal favorites was turning an old power supply into a case for my NanoPi M1+, utilizing the 120mm fan that originally came with the power supply to cool it
<Manouchehri>
got the last super early bird 216
<[TheBug]>
yeah I got one too
<[TheBug]>
I wanted the 826
<[TheBug]>
but
<[TheBug]>
not a budget for it
<[TheBug]>
I do think the extra ram, emmc and cores would be worth it
<Werner>
Just watch reddit after they have been shipped. I am pretty confident that some will be available for resale or trade then
<[TheBug]>
retail it will be even more cost prohibitive though and I imagine an ASRock JXXXX board will become a cheaper option with 8GB of ram
<Manouchehri>
where'd ya buy a NanoPi R4S?
<[TheBug]>
your just paying for the unique form factor really
<Werner>
directly from FE
<[TheBug]>
there are other boards that exist with similar chip sets in mini-itx form factor already
<Werner>
I dug through aliexpress beforehand but could not find cheaper
<[TheBug]>
You can get friendly arm stuff either from their website directly or from armworks in the usa but in USA they don't stock a whole lot
<Manouchehri>
Werner: thank you, saved me some time from looking on aliexpress
<ashthespy>
INFO: plat_rockchip_pmu_init: pd status 0xe b
<IgorPec>
no u-boot prompt?
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<Algyz>
Hello, can you remind me how to fix small gap above top panel, size is exactly as panel, not reachable by mouse?
<jschwart>
Tonymac32: I tried putting a recent Armbian image on the eMMC and putting a bootable SD card in the slot, but that does not work. Armbian still boots from eMMC
<stipa>
Algyz: i saw that problem in a YT video, i guess it was RPI4
<stipa>
like black border around the screen or something like that
<stipa>
it was a video about 8GB rpi4
<stipa>
which video was it i have no clue but there are no many
<Algyz>
As you can see, even tv boxes running it. Btw, it has 8 cores cortex-a53 and 2gb ram. Not perfect, but still, like double rpi3
<IgorPec>
problem is in maintaning
<IgorPec>
and support. everyone would like to have perfect functioning, nobody is willing to pay the bill
<stipa>
like me
<Algyz>
Advantage in power consumption. Have several older cisc boxes around, was thinking about reusing it, but q8400 is using 95W of electricity, c'mon...
<IgorPec>
tv boxes are cheap recarnation of single board computers
<IgorPec>
single board compuers are usually as cheap as possible, while in tvbox area they go to the extreme with this. plus, there is absolutely no technical manual
<Manouchehri>
Werner: thanks, I sent them an email.
<Algyz>
You should see them showing iptv/movies. Working perfect.
<IgorPec>
no need to tell me
<IgorPec>
:)
<Algyz>
:)
<Manouchehri>
:)
<Manouchehri>
:
<stipa>
well
<IgorPec>
i am also using tvbox for playing videos
<IgorPec>
not some x86 power hungry machine
<stipa>
i want my sbc to be both a server and a tv box
<Algyz>
So this is your hobby @IgorPec , main job in IT?
<IgorPec>
i think my job is hobby and this is my job :)
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<IgorPec>
spent more time here then at job
<Algyz>
My main job not in IT, but I found business niche in IT recently - repairing tablets' touchscreens. Bought several hundreds of them recently very cheap, repairing touchscreens and selling, people are happy
<stipa>
you must be in a big town
<Algyz>
Bought heat gun, isezame, screwdrivers, all stuff, buying touchscreens from ali, 3-6 euros each, selling 20-50 euros for tablet.
<Algyz>
Not so big, like 300k
<stipa>
oh
<stipa>
i grew up in a city of 5k
<Algyz>
Interesting business niche, since people are breaking touchscreens here and there, everywhere, and not so hard to replace them, just needs practice.
<stipa>
yeah, it's a thing now
<stipa>
tablets
<stipa>
there are cool repair videos on YT which helps a bunch
<stipa>
without all those nice people i would be scared of that stuff
<stipa>
you need a shelf of tools for every step of repair process
<stipa>
lol
<stipa>
and every step looks like brain surgery
<stipa>
those guys that change front glass on screens
<Algyz>
I read about iphone xs, after changing of touchscreen one needs to reprogram it with specific software, so everything will work. Terrible. Are we a bit offtopic allready?
<stipa>
they're the best ones on YT
<stipa>
ha ha
<stipa>
idk
<stipa>
yeah, apple sux
<stipa>
you expect flowers and love and peace from a gay boss but it's not happenining...
<stipa>
but US government don't care much since apple feeds their asses
<stipa>
there are a bunch of people protesting against hardware locks and unobtanium parts but government does nothing about it
<stipa>
the more people protest the more hardware locks they put into products
<IgorPec>
most people have no clue about this
<stipa>
which makes things worse
<IgorPec>
i know
<stipa>
there's no point in explaining it to them
<stipa>
if people in government don't get it those below them won't get it even more
<IgorPec>
ofc. its just some technical detail :)
<stipa>
right
<IgorPec>
most sold stuff has many physical and psyhological locks
<stipa>
yeah
<stipa>
that's why it sells
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<IgorPec>
its kind a part of the package
<sunshavi>
about cherry-pi-pc 2 Gb mem is the minimun for desktop usage. So this device does not fill the requirements
<IgorPec>
it depends what you planning to do with it
<IgorPec>
but its an old device, not very fast anyway
<stipa>
maybe few firefox tabs
<stipa>
but swap will be on for sure
<IgorPec>
without browser you can do many things
<IgorPec>
or with lynx browser ;)
<Algyz>
@sunshavi If you don't need gpio, why not buying tv board with 2gb ram for ~27 euros?
<sunshavi>
Algyz: that should be awesome
<IgorPec>
with tvbox you have no support
<IgorPec>
so its not that awesome
<sunshavi>
i have two SBC's opi+2e and opipc
<sunshavi>
opipc at 1296 Mhz. But memory start to fail it
<Algyz>
I'm using one with wifi, 2gb ram. Yeah, no support=not awesome, but still...
<sunshavi>
I bought it with the purpose of compiling packages for my opi+2e
<sunshavi>
But opipc is not filling the role. It even can not compile mesa
<Algyz>
I had opi pc, was good to watch movies
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<sunshavi>
so. I need 2 gb mem at the minimum for fullfilling that role
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<Algyz>
So you can go and buy tx9s tv box?
<IgorPec>
get some h6 board
<IgorPec>
like opi3
<sunshavi>
Algyz: those are amlogic?
<Algyz>
Or you can spend a bit more and get some *pi with 2gb ram
<sunshavi>
IgorPec: how much memory on opi3+
<sunshavi>
brb
<IgorPec>
1 or 2 i think
<Algyz>
@sunshavi amlogic, s912
<IgorPec>
yes
<IgorPec>
i use s912 for librelec
<Algyz>
But they are not especially great for web browsing, web 2.0 seems too heavy. Especially facebook hangs browsing :(
<IgorPec>
support
<IgorPec>
modern kernel
<IgorPec>
open source
<Algyz>
But those soc/tv boxes very good tuned for movies :) When I bought opi pc, it was 2016 I think, it streamed videos very perfectly, hd quality without glitches
<sunshavi>
Algyz: with armbian?
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<Algyz>
Yeah, armbian
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<sunshavi>
i play videos with vlc and cedrus. But fullscreen still not working
<Algyz>
Why not mpv?
<sunshavi>
mpv is too much for my poor SOC. It increases temperature until 100 degrees and SBC reboots
<sunshavi>
I am waiting my passive heatsink from aliexpress
<sunshavi>
but Quarantine is not helping
<Algyz>
Passive is good thing, I was using soc with it
<sunshavi>
that's the reason mpv is not an option
<sunshavi>
Also when passive coolling is installed I am going to increase cpu core speed to 1200 Mhz
<sunshavi>
and browser with glamor activated has its issues still
<Algyz>
I'm against such performance boosting anywhere, but do as you wish. It would surely shorten lifetime.
<nekomancer[m]>
sunshavi: is it big?
<sunshavi>
nekomancer: big issues with glamor?
<nekomancer[m]>
big passive heatsink
<sunshavi>
nekomancer: The one xunlong sells
<sunshavi>
Algyz: opipc (without case, without heatsink) goes 1296 Mhz and temperature stays under 50 degress without hdmi
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<sunshavi>
hdmi increases temperature 10 degress
<Algyz>
@sunshavi you don't need special xunlong heatsink. I installed some cheap heatsinks, like ~1 euro for ten complects (1cpu+2ram), worked as expected
<Algyz>
You can find heatsinks on old motherboards as well, they will work
<sunshavi>
Algyz: nice here in south America. Aliexpress is the only option
<sunshavi>
Algyz: I have not tried heatsinks from old motherboards
<Algyz>
They are just piece of metal, nothing special
<sunshavi>
temperature now as we are talking is 59 centigrades
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<Redentor>
unable to connect.
<ArmbianTwitter>
@VeryMetalDev (VeryMetalDev ⌨️🖥️👨🔧🖋️✏️😷): @igor_os777 I'd rather proceed with Orange Pi 4 though, H6. I need that extra "oompfh" with the 2Ghz, 4Gig Mem and Mali for a perfect Linux desktop experience. With Armbian of course though i'd like to get Ubuntu or Manjaro running on it, those work so well with RasPi 4. https://tinyurl.com/yd9vnxeq (9s ago)
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