<devyn> purr: ++
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<Nuck> Major Lazer or PtM
<Nuck> Can't decide which stream to watch
<purr> <Nuck> Yes, every teenage girl. Now I'm salivating so hard.
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<vil> finally, tmux 1.8
<sanitypassing> how is tmux?
<vil> I love it
<vil> I've been stuck on 1.7 waiting on a patch to make it into Homebrew
<sanitypassing> I see.
<vil> ever used it?
<sanitypassing> no, but I've been told I should
<vil> you should
<vil> :D
<sanitypassing> using screen right now
<sanitypassing> 'tis familiar
<sanitypassing> don't have much time to be learning a new program
<vil> that's the nice thing, you can start out using it pretty much the same as screen
<vil> and ease in
<sanitypassing> hmm.
<sanitypassing> Well, perhaps.
<vil> mainly you just have to remap the prefix to Ctrl-a and you're good to go
<vil> I think
<sanitypassing> I'm going to have some free time between when this semester ends and my summer class starts, so I might be able to do it then.
<vil> there might be other stuff, I haven't used screen in a long time
<sanitypassing> depending on how everything goes
<sanitypassing> well, I don't even use all that many features of screen
<sanitypassing> I just use it to keep a weechat session open when I'm not logged in.
<sanitypassing> since I don't run anything else on this server.
<vil> oh, you'll be fine, yeah
<sanitypassing> I don't *think* I'm running anything else, at least.
<vil> heh
<sanitypassing> I mean, I haven't started anything in the background
<sanitypassing> but you never know, right?
<sanitypassing> might've accidentially left something up without realizing it.
<sanitypassing> 'cept the server has had to reboot since I last ran anything not screen or weechat
<sanitypassing> so I'm probably good.
<sanitypassing> ... I hope
<sanitypassing> gah I hate writing essays
<sanitypassing> ... I should have written this one weeks ago, when I got the assignment
<sanitypassing> instead of waiting until there are like 2-3 weeks of school left.
<sanitypassing> wat
<vil> sanitypassing: that's how I write all essays
<vil> h
<vil> oops
<Nuck> OMG
<Nuck> The XX playing right now
<Nuck> I missed Alt-J yesterday (;_;)
<Nuck> We all need to go to Coachella someday
<Nuck> Man Alt-J plays the Castanets with some VIGOR
<devyn> Nuck: what's that? you need a vigor? try shock jockey.
<Nuck> Dude
<Nuck> It's the fucking castanets
<Nuck> Have you ever played that shit?
<devyn> yes actually
<Nuck> It's impossible to act excited with an instrument like that
<devyn> what? not at all
<Nuck> Also he's also playing bass guitar
<Nuck> So he's having to hold the castanets between his teeth
<devyn> haha
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<whitequark> ugh I just read LESSTHAN as LESBIAN
<whitequark> not sure what would that signify
<whitequark> like, gsub(/</, LESSTHAN).
<Nuck> That signifies us wearing off on you
<Nuck> ooooooooh man
<Nuck> TDCC is rocking this
<whitequark> wat
<Nuck> Two Door Cinema Club
<Nuck> Awesome band
<Nuck> Streaming live on Coachella. Well, they were
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<purr> * whitequark read that as "dick-shaped break-down"
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<whitequark> what
<whitequark> i did not say that
<whitequark> though it is weirdly in-context
<Nuck> Holy FUCK Ben Howard is british as fuck
<Nuck> Shits the queen
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<Nuck> hahaha
<Nuck> "We sorta showed up, nobody was expecting us, and we slept under the stage"
<Nuck> hahahaha
<Nuck> Major Lazer threw VUVUZELAS into the audience
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<Nuck> Wow
<Nuck> Major Lazer makes Harlem Shake sound good
<Nuck> Mixing electronic with reggae works so well
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<purr> <ec> HD tits are waaaaaay better than SD tits.
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<Nuck> Hmm
<alexgordon> mmmm
<Nuck> did u came
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<purr> <whitequark> sephr-uni: you are indeed the hardware equivalent of a mongodb fanboy
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<purr> <gqbrielle> anything that makes elliottcable mad is funny.
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<alexgordon> kind of interesting: to learn a language you almost have to bootstrap it: learn enough words to start you off that you can start learning from context
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<alexgordon> oh apparently this is a thing already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_(linguistics)
<whitequark> hey alexgordon
<whitequark> I can reply to this
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> what?
<alexgordon> what?
<whitequark> well. one of the earliest ever computers, I think it was a design by von Neumann himself (can't find it yet) used the 40-bit fixed point numbers in 1.39 format as the primary datatype.
<whitequark> so you're not exactly first to think of it :p
<alexgordon> bah what did von neumann know?
<whitequark> like, everything about any modern architecture? http://cva.stanford.edu/classes/cs99s/papers/vonneumann-firstdraftedvac.pdf
<whitequark> read this. now
<alexgordon> eh, he was probably just faking it
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<judofyr> heya
<judofyr> anyone here?
<incomprehensibly> alexgordon: that kind of bootstrapping kind of applies to learning any technical field
<incomprehensibly> alexgordon: you beat your head against internet forums about programming, or music production, or anything, until you have enough vocabulary/concepts picked up that you can smoothly learn the rest of it from context
<alexgordon> incomprehensibly: indeed
<alexgordon> sup judofyr
<incomprehensibly> hi judofyr
<judofyr> I realized I was slowly going insane
<judofyr> so I stopped what I was doing and joined this channel
<judofyr> not sure if it would help
<judofyr> I've been reverse-engineering the BankID protocol (used for two-factor authentication in Norway): http://github.com/judofyr/bankid-api
<incomprehensibly> what were you doing?
<judofyr> it requires a Java applet to work
<judofyr> so I was hoping to write a pure JavaScript client
<judofyr> they've actually obfuscated the parameter names!
<incomprehensibly> agh gtg
<judofyr> seriously, who does that?
<judofyr> and everything is just inconsistent and weird
<judofyr> *sigh*
<judofyr> I need a break
<judofyr> alexgordon: doing something fun?
<alexgordon> judofyr: optimizing language learning
<judofyr> alexgordon: as in, trying to learn languages faster?
<whitequark> judofyr: lol @ bankid
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> judofyr: yes
<alexgordon> natural language
<judofyr> whitequark: it's *mostly* sane. AES-256-CBC, HMAC-SHA256. well, except for the fact that the applet is served over HTTPS which is the weakest link…
<whitequark> judofyr: you're living the nor-way
<whitequark> and I'm the nand-way
<judofyr> alexgordon: SuperMemo-style? what languages?
<whitequark> so you're directly addressable
<whitequark> but I can flash faster
<alexgordon> judofyr: all languages!
<judofyr> alexgordon: I've always wanted to learn Lojban
<alexgordon> (that use the BMP because life's too short to get JS to deal with anything else)
<judofyr> whitequark: you're quite a quark indeed.
<whitequark> You doom us all to inhuman toil for the One whose Name cannot be expressed in Basic Multilingual Plane!
<alexgordon> judofyr: yes I'm using anki as my backend
<judofyr> whitequark: haven't been able to work on `parser` unfortunately. I don't quite get why I chose rev-eng BankID over rev-eng Ruby's parser…
<whitequark> judofyr: not masochistic enough?
<FireFly> judofyr: assuming norwegian BankID is the same as the system used in Sweden with the same name, have you seen FriBID? http://fribid.se/index.en.html
<FireFly> Looking at their code might help with the reversing
<judofyr> whitequark: hah, I love all of issues you've opened at https://github.com/seattlerb/ruby_parser/issues
<judofyr> FireFly: it's not the same
<FireFly> Oh.
<FireFly> Never mind then
<whitequark> judofyr: also look at all the ones he closed :D
<judofyr> FireFly: they just used the same name
<whitequark> I especially like #106 and #96
<judofyr> FireFly: unlike in Denmark where they called it NemID (literately "easy ID")
<whitequark> #61 and #95 are kinda neat.
<alexgordon> I hope that some day, Matz will pay for what he's done
<alexgordon> the geneva conventions were *invented* for ruby's syntax
<alexgordon> trying to work out the correct mix of native and foreign to generate sentences with...
<alexgordon> I know I want the answer field to be foreign
<alexgordon> and the question field should be foreign too
<alexgordon> but obviously it shouldn't include the answer
<alexgordon> so I can hide that... but then it's still a bit nonsensical if you don't know what the other words mean
<judofyr> alexgordon: what kind of questions do you have?
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<alexgordon> judofyr: mmm? what kind of kind of questions?
<judofyr> alexgordon: I assume you're talking about the anki cards?
<alexgordon> I have picture questions, translation questions, audio questions and sentence questions
<alexgordon> it doesn't actually use "cards"
<alexgordon> it just uses the anki backend to schedule each word
<judofyr> ah
<alexgordon> but the questions are generated on the fly
<alexgordon> judofyr: question looks like this http://chocolatapp.com/snaps/scrambled.png
<judofyr> alexgordon: hm. what is the answer the last one?
<alexgordon> depends which language it is :P
<judofyr> alexgordon: Norwegian
<alexgordon> apparently in french the answer would be "seulement"
<alexgordon> judofyr: you tell me :P
<judofyr> alexgordon: "bare", "kun"
<alexgordon> yay I know two words of norwegian!
<alexgordon> questions can have multiple answers btw
<alexgordon> multiple correct answers
<judofyr> right, that's also why you display multiple "questions"?
<judofyr> do you just Google image it?
<judofyr> (for the pictures)
<alexgordon> yeah, though I have to check it's a noun first
<judofyr> if not I guess it turns into 4 pictures, 1 word
<purr> <micahjohnston> I don't enjoy plumbing on a coputer
<alexgordon> "copulater" is much more accurate than "computer"
<judofyr> judging from the colorscheme, this looks like an interesting language: http://viewsoflanguage.host56.com/voksigid/
<alexgordon> mmm so I guess what I want is short sentences with any words they *don't* know translated
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<alexgordon> suppose I just have to slog through the first stage and learn the meanings of the first 150 words
<alexgordon> I wish there was something more memorable though
<alexgordon> thing is, it's hard to remember the difference between "of" and "then" and "this" and "that" in isolation
<alexgordon> since you can't visualize "of"
<alexgordon> it only makes sense as part of a sentence
<alexgordon> "I'll have one of please and one that"
<alexgordon> :P
<alexgordon> so this memorization thing works well for nouns and verbs
<alexgordon> but for function words it's really hard work
<fwg> just read the intro paragraph about phoronix
<alexgordon> but I can't think of how *else* to learn functions words other than this
<alexgordon> yeah this isn't working :\
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<vil> elliottcable: you'd be proud, one of the teams at the AI competition I was in yesterday was named ಠ_ಠ
<alexgordon> mmm
<alexgordon> think I've cracked it
<alexgordon> let me do an example
<alexgordon> someone give me a language
<judofyr> Icelandic
<alexgordon> judofyr: hahahaha
<alexgordon> icelandic isn't a language, it's the closest thing we have to true randomness
<alexgordon> ok norwegian it is ;)
<alexgordon> should say that I only know two words of norwegian :P
<alexgordon> I do know some swedish though... basically the same thing, isn't it?
<judofyr> you should say that you "bare" know two words of norwegian
<judofyr> pretty similar yeah
<judofyr> some words are different
<alexgordon> ok so I need a word... let's say "would"
<judofyr> Norwegian: "ville"
<alexgordon> you're almost as good at this as google!
<alexgordon> oh many google's norwegian is pretty terrible!
<alexgordon> *man
<alexgordon> judofyr: so like this: https://gist.github.com/fileability/5384054
<judofyr> alexgordon: nice example
<judofyr> alexgordon: I like it (the tech, not the example)
<judofyr> alexgordon: but how much work is it?
<judofyr> alexgordon: sorry, gtg
<judofyr> later!
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<purr> <devyn> Nuck: …no, the IRC protocol doesn't support rewriting history.
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<purr> <Nuck> Richard Stallman would be *so* pissed at elliottcable.
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