<ec>
can we get married until you have to divorce me and marry ivy
<incomprehensibly>
ec: lmao
<alexgordon>
haha
<alexgordon>
who is ivy
<incomprehensibly>
my friend
<alexgordon>
incomprehensibly has a girlfriend?
<ec>
if you find like true love you we can divorce before that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<incomprehensibly>
alexgordon: i have a girlfriend who is NOT named ivy lol
<purr>
lol
<ec>
or we can all do a thing, idc, she's beautify af
<alexgordon>
incomprehensibly: YOU ARE TOO NERDY TO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND
<ec>
beautify af
<ec>
alexgordon: ...
<alexgordon>
:D
<ec>
incomprehensibly is super un-nerdy tbh
<incomprehensibly>
alexgordon: she's really cool and studies neuroscience
<ec>
unless you mean, like, Classic '80s Nerd
<ec>
b/cuz he does look a little like he belongs in a cheesy Advanced Dungeons & Dragons advertisement with special-effects and clay dragons
<incomprehensibly>
lol no i don't
<alexgordon>
ec: lol incomprehensibly knows more about every subject than I do, and has done since he was like 14
<ec>
alexgordon: this is true for all of us, friend. this is true for all of us.
<ec>
it's hilarious that I used to describe myself as his mentor;
<alexgordon>
xD
<alexgordon>
ec: man and you've just learnt to code!
<ec>
and *even worse* now that when people ask whatever happened to him, I have to be like “Oh, he did precisely what ... I'm ... doing ... right now, but like, years ago.”
<alexgordon>
now that you can code, I want to see you write some haskell
<ec>
mostly because I'm tired of everybody in here hating on me when I'm criticizing functional programming ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<pikajude>
they hatin on me (hatin on me)
<alexgordon>
I keep wanting to learn ocaml
<alexgordon>
but when I do, something stops me
<alexgordon>
divine intervention perhaps
<pikajude>
like the angry bear that keeps eating your computer
<alexgordon>
okay guys, back later
<incomprehensibly>
haskell is good imo
<ec>
alexgordon: lovbye
<incomprehensibly>
bye alexgordon
<incomprehensibly>
did u look at my twitter bot
<incomprehensibly>
his defintiions are a bit shit
<incomprehensibly>
i need to improve
<ec>
thanks, pikajude, now I'm imagining an angry bear lurking outside alexgordon's windows, and breaking through his back door every time he visits http://haskell.org
<alexgordon>
the bear is real
<pikajude>
that's actually the haskell website
<pikajude>
not the ocaml website
<pikajude>
oh wait i see what you mean
<pikajude>
that's why he doesn't like haskell, is because of the bear infestation
<ec>
$936
<ec>
ugh
<ec>
I have 4k displays and tbh I hate them
<ec>
was a HUGE mistake
<pikajude>
ec, give me like 3,600 of them
<pikajude>
i need to make a huge billboard
<ec>
operating at non-retina, they're way too small to see anything on without damaging my vision (and of course, non-retina life is just trash *anyway*)
<ec>
but operating at retina, there's nowhere near enough screen-space, and everything is gigantic
<ec>
they're like in this local minimum of resolution vs. size and I hate it
<incomprehensibly>
ec: choose a resolution that isn't commensurable with your screen resolution
<ec>
hm they ebay not-too-badly
<incomprehensibly>
so everything is nice n blurry
<incomprehensibly>
and also the right size for your eyes
<ec>
oh wait those are buy-it-now, ugh
<ec>
incomprehensibly: actually that's what I'm doing right now even though I hate it even more
<ec>
need more space
<incomprehensibly>
ec: i just buy-it-nowed something and it was a great experience
<ec>
so basically I paid a bunch to have blurry-everything?
<ec>
buy-it-nowed
<incomprehensibly>
well
<incomprehensibly>
sold-it-nowed
<ec>
but buy-it-now prices aren't representative of what I could get selling mine, so, ugh
<ec>
rly?
<cloudhead>
pikajude: it does mean that
<ec>
cloudhead: it does mean that
<ec>
ooo I want purr to sometimes reply to a message with the same message
<pikajude>
cloudhead: dough
<ec>
somebody go purr that
<ec>
ugh $320/0-bids, $420 buy-it-now
<ec>
some are buy-it-now for $400
<ec>
goddamnit ugh idk
<incomprehensibly>
i sold my drum machine
<incomprehensibly>
MSRP is $500
<cloudhead>
pikajude: window ids were added to vim recently and they're super useful for this kind of plugin
<ec>
Dell P2715Q 27" Ultra HD 4K LED IPS Monitor
<ec>
oops
<incomprehensibly>
mine's kind of old and slightly scratched, I put $400 buy it now + offers, got offered $360 then $300 then $392 in like 3 days
<cloudhead>
cause before that there's no way to track a window reliably
<ec>
cloudhead: what?
<ec>
“try eBay Valet”
<ec>
oh wow I'm super-tempted
<cloudhead>
ec: anything I said ambiguous?
<ec>
cloudhead: just not sure of the context
<cloudhead>
oh
<incomprehensibly>
fuck i need to ship
<cloudhead>
I released a plugin today for neovim
<incomprehensibly>
asap
<ec>
how is neovim?
<cloudhead>
for haskell
<ec>
you know what'd be a fucking effective service?
<cloudhead>
neovim is like vim, but better
<ec>
“I have a large collection of miscellaneous stuff, come to my place, photograph, package, and list all of it for me.”
<ec>
Like an hourly / package version of eBay Valet
<cloudhead>
uhm
<cloudhead>
I usually pay a friend to do that
<ec>
I have a deep abiding hatred for sites that don't work in Safari
<cloudhead>
+1
<ec>
Like, I get actively, physiologically angry, when it happens
<cloudhead>
ok maybe not that bad
<ec>
‘Fuck you and your exclusively-testing-in-the-worst-browser habit’
<ec>
*angrily deletes account, finds new service to use*
<cloudhead>
well yeah that's the thing
<cloudhead>
safari is better than chrome on os x
<ec>
or depending on my level of anxiety and stress afterwards, *send angry email*
<cloudhead>
that's what makes it annoying
<incomprehensibly>
chrome is a buggy pile on my laptop
<cloudhead>
yeah
<ec>
about twice out of five times, I can successfully switch to Chrome, submit whatever form or whatever won't work, and then copy-paste the resulting URL to continue working in Safari -_-
<cloudhead>
we're not in a good period for internet browsers
<ec>
)'=
<ec>
not in a good period for the Internet, period
<cloudhead>
true
<cloudhead>
but thankfully there's ways to avoid the bad internet
<cloudhead>
like irc :p
<ec>
lmao
<ec>
brew outdated tho
<pikajude>
cloudhead: now it says "Key not present in Dictionary: bufnr" :(
<pikajude>
i'm scared
<cloudhead>
huuuuuum
<ec>
woah, I had a lot of outdated packages this time
<purr>
<reckless> PLT always sounds like an STD anyway
<alexgordon>
lol if PLT is an STD then ec is mostly responsible for spreading it
<purr>
undefined
<ec>
oops
<ec>
alexgordon: wat.
<purr>
beep.
<ec>
wats-referencing-wats is my new aesthetic
<ec>
-what
<purr>
<Nuck> elliottcable: Stop rubbing your face in poop you fool
<ec>
I mean, no? but thanks
<alexgordon>
-what
<purr>
<alexgordon> why, we lispers spend half as much time writing code as normal programmers, leaving the other half of our time for writing smug essays!
<ec>
woah I forgot how magical this shit is
<ec>
I use some magical error-annotator
<ec>
what's this called, I can't remember
<alexgordon>
what?
<ec>
PowerAssert! yeah, this is really cool
<ec>
I have like fifty fucking modules transpiling my JS code, tbh
<Pyrrh^>
OMG. I bought grapes earlier that taste like cotton candy
<ec>
Pyrrh^ and pikajude look like nice ice-creams; and alexgordon is like something tasty and crumbly sprinkled on top
<alexgordon>
Pyrrh^: well only women usually change their name when they get married, presume that's what you meant by V
<ec>
pikajude: hack to make it render in irccloud
<Pyrrh^>
they blow my mind
<ec>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Pyrrh^>
alexgordon: fair enough :)
<pikajude>
ec, godaddy's internet is so good i can't resolve your website
<ec>
I forgot you worked at godaddy
<alexgordon>
ec: FUCK YEAH I'M ON TOP
<ec>
what was the story there
<pikajude>
Like why am I working here?
<ec>
yeah you're so often so unhappy
<ec>
and then I get reminded you work at godaddy and I go “ohhhh, k, got it”
<pikajude>
well, I'm unhappy about everything
<ec>
and then I think “wait, there's no way he doesn't see it”
<pikajude>
godaddy is just a tiny part of everything
<ec>
and then I wonder what the Reason is
<ec>
I could choke on an M&M **RIGHT** **NOW**
<ec>
and be gone forever
<ec>
how would you all feel, then, huh?
<ec>
would #elliottcable still exist
<pikajude>
ec, I'm fully aware godaddy is shit
<pikajude>
BUT
<pikajude>
if you were 18 years old and were offered a full-time job
<ec>
would it hurt too much, would you all miss me so much and have to go chat somewhere else
<pikajude>
to move across the country, and see new things
<pikajude>
what would YOU do
<ec>
obv. I've curated too-excellent a group of people; and you'd all be chatting here for years to come
<ec>
:3
<ec>
pikajude: are you fucking 18!?
<pikajude>
I was at one point yeah
<pikajude>
About 4 years ago
<ec>
well, ... yeah ...
<ec>
holy shit you're only 22
<pikajude>
Yes
<ec>
how old were you when you joined here
<ec>
were you otters? who were you, I can't remember
<pikajude>
but I *just* had my first big breakup
<pikajude>
yes I'm otters
<ec>
omg you're otters
<ec>
this makes me so happy
<ec>
I loved otters
<ec>
or I guess love otters?
<pikajude>
I don't know how to check
<pikajude>
how long I've been on freenode
<ec>
jesus christ my memory is getting worse, I think
<pikajude>
but
<ec>
-wholoves otters
<purr>
ec: otters is loved by no one :(
<ec>
LIES
<ec>
-wholoves pikajude
<purr>
ec: pikajude is loved by no one :(
<pikajude>
I joined here after devyn invited me
<ec>
purr ur mean
<ec>
<3 pikajude
<purr>
Let it be known that ec hearts pikajude.
<pikajude>
devyn is from DevelopingDevelopers on deviantART
<pikajude>
and I joined dA about 8 years ago
<ec>
devyn!
<pikajude>
so that's a rough estimate
<ec>
devyn i miss you
<pikajude>
I'd say about 6 or 7 years
<pikajude>
the prozac is starting to kick in
<ec>
yeah I was pretty sure you were here at least in 2011
<ec>
but idk if back to 2010
<pikajude>
I was definitely here in 2011
<pikajude>
I was joelteon too
<pikajude>
before I changed my name
<ec>
OH
<ec>
GODDAMNIT WHAT
<ec>
it's so confusing
<pikajude>
Keep up ec
<ec>
I thought joelteon's name was joel
<pikajude>
Everyone changes their name
<ec>
and now I know you're jude
<pikajude>
It was
<pikajude>
i changed it
<ec>
I remember a photo with your feet up
<pikajude>
yeah
<ec>
oh what
<pikajude>
yes
<pikajude>
I used to own otte.rs actually
<pikajude>
remember that?
<ec>
I thought that i was *wrong* about it being joel, because I thought joelteon was a pokemon
<pikajude>
jolteon is a pokemon
<pikajude>
pikachu is also a pokemon
<ec>
... jesus christ I'm so confused
<ec>
okay
<pikajude>
so I'm otters -> joelteon -> pikajude
<ec>
I was* so confused
<pikajude>
in between 2 and 3 I changed my IRL name
* Pyrrh^
is cracking up
<pikajude>
because I hated my name
<Pyrrh^>
this conversation so good
<ec>
so, Pyrrh^, I have,
<ec>
a really really really really poor memory
<ec>
like, remarkably poor
<ec>
I have a new therapist as of Monday
<pikajude>
You do
<Pyrrh^>
Excellent! I'm in good company
<pikajude>
I'm not in a good company
<pikajude>
:/
<ec>
and she basically kept going “... I've never heard of anything like that” to like, every thing about myself I described
<ec>
and tbh it was really upsetting and idk if I'm gonna go back
<Pyrrh^>
oh my
<pikajude>
ec, one time I joined your minecraft server and built 15 snow golems
<pikajude>
remember that?
<ec>
(because like what's the Ideal Outcome of visiting a psychiatric professional? getting told “You're completely normal and healthy!”)
<Pyrrh^>
personally I'd keep shopping for a different doctor but obvs I know nothing about your situation besides that
<ec>
(so like, I basically got the worst possible result.)
<Pyrrh^>
in my experience if they know nothing about your stuff then they can't help you very well
<ec>
well she's real real sweet; really close; and like, I think we get along already
<purr>
hah
<pikajude>
you need a different therapist
<ec>
PURR NO
<Pyrrh^>
oh that helps :)
<alexgordon>
I'm alexgordon and I've always been alexgordon
<pikajude>
hmm, idk
<alexgordon>
soemtimes I am alextgordon
<ec>
which is a huuuuuge step up from previous experiences where there was just no connection
<pikajude>
ec, do you remember the snow golems
<ec>
but like
<ec>
she's literally never heard of somebody being unable to hear due to brain? and like? I know at least two other people with my condition!? it's not at all strange?
<alexgordon>
unable to hear due to brain?
<alexgordon>
what?
<ec>
lol
<purr>
undefined
<pikajude>
undefined
<ec>
it's kinda weird the things that nobody in here knows about me, due to them being irrelevant online
<alexgordon>
man I could be a psychiatrist
<pikajude>
"Ok guys. We need to differentiate between undefined and null."
<pikajude>
"Why?"
<pikajude>
the million dollar question
<ec>
pikajude: I have four different kinds of nothingness planned for Paws. >,>
<Pyrrh^>
CAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE SAME AT ALL UGH
<alexgordon>
pikajude: inconsistently
<pikajude>
As though null should even exist
<alexgordon>
does js ever use null?
<alexgordon>
unless you type it
<pikajude>
don't know
<alexgordon>
feel like it's "undefined is null but for built in functions"
<pikajude>
I know that rust has an Option type and represents None as a null pointer
<pikajude>
so no space is wasted
<pikajude>
that's pretty cool
<ec>
tagged pointers are always cool
<ec>
I'm in an operating-systems class I'm pretty excited about
<pikajude>
it's all just abstractions on top of, like, 4.3 billion machine words
<ec>
and I learned a lot about vmas last semester
<pikajude>
I used to have existential worry about whether what I did for a living was actually in any way meaningful
<pikajude>
I don't have worry anymore, because I know it isn't
<pikajude>
but it is a little depressing
<ec>
Pyrrh^: oh
<ec>
Pyrrh^: if you liked that conversation, you should take a moment to trawl the tumblr
<ec>
that isn't what I wanted, either, but it'll do
ec changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a-̧̀ŝ̖ü͈p̩̥̿̾ề̫̻ŕ͈̪́i̡̩̔̀ó̪̙̅r̛͕̭̈́-̣̮̯̼̤̱̗͗̆̍̿͛̕̕̚͘͜͜c͚̼͉̠͚̘͚̍͗̐̈́̾̑͜͜͠͝͠u̫͙̤̥͖̠̻̲͓͊̌̓̂̎̉̉̓͝ĺ̛̠̘͉̠̩̬̝̰̣̔̆̇̓̒̑̉t̜̼͍͉̜̙̤̫͊̅̎́͂͛̄̑͝ͅ-slash-
<ec>
close enough
<ec>
Pyrrh^: do you follow @slimegirlfriend
<jfhbrook>
slimegirlfriend ?
<ec>
did I stutter
<jfhbrook>
I, uhh
<jfhbrook>
I had a slime *pet* in minecraft once
<ec>
lmao
<jfhbrook>
if you nametag something it won't de-spawn so
<ec>
we named a slime once
<ec>
yah that
<ec>
chellio named it, uh,
<ec>
I forget. kitten?
<ec>
and put it in a cage in a wall
<jfhbrook>
find a slimeball, bring it home, label it and keep it indoors
<ec>
where there had previously been no cage or slime
<ec>
to surprise me
<jfhbrook>
oh mine would just run up to me excited when I came home
<ec>
do they not attack when named?
<jfhbrook>
nah they attack but the smallest slimes don't do damage
<jfhbrook>
they just knock you back
<jfhbrook>
so it's really like a pet dog that's really excited to see you
<ec>
oh!
<ec>
that's so cute omfg
<ec>
but could make it hard to get around
<jfhbrook>
well just keep it in an area with a few chests
<jfhbrook>
not a huge deal
<pikajude>
wow, the topic got even more fucked
<ec>
pikajude: did I make it *too* fucked? I tried to achieve the same amount of fucked as previously
<jfhbrook>
ec: it looks like you're complaining that ddg, shock, horror, is doing ads to pay the bills
<jfhbrook>
ec: I suppose it's a "problem" that wow.com bought all ads ever, but it seems like the core problem is that they're trying to monetize
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<jfhbrook>
I guess it would be nice if their customers mattered?
<ec>
ads are great
<ec>
I'm all for ads to power a great service
<ec>
but with *relevance*
<ec>
DDG is a search company. Relevance is *literally their business*. Fucking this up ain't okay.
<ec>
wow.com/Whatever My Search Term Is, without even an *attempt* to *fake* a relevant description string or something? jesus christ.
<jfhbrook>
>:D
<jfhbrook>
no, fair
<ec>
come write js with me jfhbrook
<ec>
)'=
<ec>
I want
<ec>
I want a partner
<ec>
in like every sense of the term
<jfhbrook>
and tbh I've been thinking about dropping ddg cause I always !google anyway
<ec>
1. need to date someone, this last attempt has left a bad taste in my mouth
<jfhbrook>
I can only help you in a really vague short term sense of the word
<ec>
and not in a good way
<ec>
2. need to work on Paws, or something else Big and Fulfilling and Meaningful,
<ec>
and 3. need to do it *with someone*
<jfhbrook>
well
<ec>
haven't ... *felt good* ... since like, 2012-Paws-days
<jfhbrook>
my dating future lies elsewhere, fbofw
<jfhbrook>
and PL stuff makes my brain hurt
<jfhbrook>
I was just telling someone I was thinking about geeking out over ELK-but-with-rsyslog-and-solr stacks so like
<jfhbrook>
I guess that's my jam? which means this new job is right up my alley?
<ec>
jfhbrook: awww <'3
<ec>
I'd date the fuck out of you bby <3
<jfhbrook>
aw
<ec>
enjoy those elsewheres though
<ec>
as for the pl stuff
<ec>
I CAN FIX THAT
<ec>
THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT I DO
<jfhbrook>
I can take on some light reading
<jfhbrook>
of particular interest is implementing tex-like markup DSLs
<Pyrrh^>
I kinda like pair programming but it's hard to find someone on the sameish level as you with interest in the same project
<ec>
My life goal, a story in two acts: 1. Make everybody who currently knows how to program write at least one programming language, 2. make sure everyone who doesn't currently know how to program, can *truly* leverage the magic that is computing to improve their daily lives beyond dumb ‘apps’
<ec>
PLT is love, PLT is life, PLT is everything
<jfhbrook>
Pyrrh^: I find pairing works best when you're power leveling
<jfhbrook>
Pyrrh^: like, yeah, the old WoW mechanic, it works irl
<ec>
lmao true af
<Pyrrh^>
interesting :)
<Pyrrh^>
I can see how that'd make sense
<Pyrrh^>
and I need some lvls :c
<jfhbrook>
also works well when the "senior" is trying to cross-class into the thing the "junior" is doing
<jfhbrook>
at least, I suspect it does---I have a pretty low sample size
<ec>
lmao
<ec>
anybody want to pair with me?
<ec>
u can be my senior jfhbrook :D
<jfhbrook>
Pyrrh^: if you wanna get into js I have some stuff you can work on ;D
<Pyrrh^>
:D
<Pyrrh^>
orly?
<jfhbrook>
jesus Pyrrh^ yes I have multiple projects I'm trying to ditch on ;D
<jfhbrook>
seriously though, I have one project I kinda send PRs to when I'm not tired, and another where I reboot the server when people start telling me it's 503ing
<Pyrrh^>
my available time is like pretty limited to times between terms, until I graduate
<Pyrrh^>
though
<Pyrrh^>
so IDK how useful I would be
<jfhbrook>
hah
<jfhbrook>
well
<jfhbrook>
so wzrd.in would need someone to care enough to mad refactor it, *and* get into a working relationship with max ogden
<Pyrrh^>
like, I always *try* to work on side projects during school but with a 40+ hr work week and 8 credit hours it doesn't happen often
<ec>
Pyrrh^: ditto, of course. I love teaching.
<jfhbrook>
but ecstatic, which is much more stable
<Pyrrh^>
<3 you guys
<purr>
Let it be known that Pyrrh^ hearts you guys.
<Pyrrh^>
or perhaps
<Pyrrh^>
<3 you people
<purr>
Let it be known that Pyrrh^ hearts you people.
<purr>
ec: Pyrrh^ loves ec, you guys, and you people.
<ec>
‘you people’ seems ...
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<jfhbrook>
Pyrrh^: most of these are the kind of problem where it has an obvious start and end, but is a bit of a tangle---in fact it's metaphorically untangling a knot in most cases
<jfhbrook>
Pyrrh^: but I also accept new features so
<gkatsev>
ec: hi
<gkatsev>
I was watching stranger things
<ec>
LOOK GKATSEV IS PISTACHO-GREEN TOO
<ec>
I guess algor is on gkatsev's level, algorithmically
<gkatsev>
pretty sure I'm very white
<ec>
gkatsev: tbh I wanted so bad to like it, but it just, I didn't
<Pyrrh^>
ec: idk I'm trying to be in tune with FEMINISM and undo the lifetime habitual use of gendered terms to address a general population neutrally