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<lordcirth> makeworld, my swarm urls don't have node IDs on any of them
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<lordcirth> In my config, that is
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<makeworld> Ok, thanks
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<postables[m]> 🤤 native I2P IPFS gateway 😄 https://gateway.temporal.cloud/ipfs/QmXZj61pwMtnWKBFAesf4HSUCGcwR3z1wKp1sR4enEYzVK
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<seba-> so IPNS is central point of failure? like if the peer is not available it stops?
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<voker57> yeah it's centralized kinda
<voker57> ipns is poorly engineered
<seba-> yeah
<seba-> i'm just testing IPNS
<seba-> and it's kinda sad
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<seba-> this has to be fixed :(
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<seba-> i wrote yesterday to the slovenian government open data provider
<seba-> and they seemed somewhat interested about using IPFS
<seba-> quite cool :>
<seba-> it seems perfect for that use
<seba-> they have huge data sets
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<Kolonka[m]> how would IPNS not be 'centralised' in a way that isn't already possible?
<Kolonka[m]> (e.g. by publishing from multiple devices)
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<r0kk3rz> i think you can already publish from multiple nodes anyway
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<voker57> by allowing nodes to 'pin' ipns records
<voker57> it's already technically feasible, just not implemented
<voker57> publishing from multiple nodes allows for _multiple_ points of failure, but not for scaling like IPFS
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<rszaloki> hi!
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<rszaloki> is there any issues using the js-ipfs module?
<rszaloki> i'cant get my project built with parcel
<rszaloki> after that I tried using the jsdeliver, but it also throws errors
<rszaloki> ohm, sorry about the last two, I missed that I need to serve the page from https or 127.0.0.1
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<M5310[m]> Js DHT!!!
<M5310[m]> (Apologies for the outburst...)
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<Kolonka[m]> fair call voker57, that would probably help with resolution speeds too
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<TimMc> So what would be the alternative for IPNS, regularly publishing a new signed timestamped statement of the latest hash?
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<geoah> depends I guess on your usecase? if you go full-on the persistent web matra you might prefer a state-based crdt approach and look for updates on the original object?
<geoah> ipns might be a slippery slope for "persistence" since the lifetime of the object is limited to the lifespan of the dns/tld.
<geoah> Unless that is I've missed something and IPNS is no longer tied to the dns.
<voker57> it is not
<voker57> dns just can be used instead of actual IPNS in IPFS
<voker57> TimMc: alternative? that's exactly what IPNS currently does
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<geoah> hm -- so with the ipns publish thingie you get an identifier based off your peer key? voker57 am I understanding this right? you can only publish updates for one "name" or whatever this is called for each peer?
<lordcirth> geoah, you can generate other keys. I use "--key blog"
<voker57> ^
<voker57> ipfs key --help
<geoah> woo that's cool
<geoah> which key gets advertised on the dht? all?
<voker57> yes
<voker57> in theory :)
<geoah> woa that's kinda spammy :P
<geoah> lol for the "in theory" comment :P
<geoah> and one more question if you don't mind -- isn't the ipns object a normal dag? I can't get it using `ipfs dag get`
<voker57> no it has a separate DHT namespace
<voker57> same for all keypairs ipfs uses
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<geoah> awh cool, I can get it with `dht get /ipns/...`
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<geoah> making everything everything cbor would be so much easier for messing with this stuff :P
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<geoah> s/everything everything/everything/
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<voker57> at least having everything in a single format would already help
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<voker57> protobuffers were a mistake...
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<agentofuser[m]> i have a directory with 8gb worth of photos that i want to send to my family. i've pinned it to ipfs so i can serve it from my machine, but the gateway url shows a directory listing and there is no way to batch-download everything. does anyone know of a webapp that i can send them so they can download the whole thing, possibly with resume and progress? thanks!
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<agentofuser[m]> i sent them the link to the ipfs desktop client, but i'm pretty sure no one is going to go through that trouble.
<geoah> agentofuser[m]: zip files maybe? :D
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<Swedneck> webapp? siderus.io maybe?
<agentofuser[m]> geoah: ugh, yeah, i was hoping to avoid that 😅 i was hoping someone had come up with a web-based "ipfs clone" thing that could download a whole tree. but you're right, that's probably easiest :)
<Swedneck> uh, orion.siderus.io
<Swedneck> i know it can be run in the browser, not sure how though
<agentofuser[m]> @swedneck: that's odd, i only see an option to download the desktop client
<Swedneck> well it uses electron
<Swedneck> so it literally just runs in a separate browser anyways
<Swedneck> you'll need to have the correct CORS config for the ipfs daemon
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<agentofuser[m]> thanks! i got orion beta to open on ipfs.io, but it seems like it only works with a daemon. the people i'm sending to need just a link though, they won't know/bother with installing a daemon. i guess i'll just do the zip thing, seems like the easiest way.
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<rszaloki> do you know, how should the circuit-relay work?
<rszaloki> I have a raspberry zero w with go-ipfs and a browser with js-ipfs
<rszaloki> I can connect to the raspberry, if it connects to a node with websocket
<rszaloki> but there are no node with ws then I can't connect
<rszaloki> is there someone (ipfs.io, infura, anybody) who runs relays?
<rszaloki> or should I make a relay open to the net and connect to it?
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<agsv> what is the best method for storing non-sensitive data in my web DApp? cookies?
<seba-> agsv, orbitdb?
<agsv> I want a reliable</italic> storage
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<seba-> haha
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<postables[m]> rszaloki `/ip4/172.218.49.115/tcp/4002/ipfs/QmPvnFXWAz1eSghXD6JKpHxaGjbVo4VhBXY2wdBxKPbne5` should have circuit relay enabled
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<postables[m]> *edit:* ~~rszaloki `/ip4/172.218.49.115/tcp/4002/ipfs/QmPvnFXWAz1eSghXD6JKpHxaGjbVo4VhBXY2wdBxKPbne5` should have circuit relay enabled~~ -> rszaloki `/dns4/temporal.cloud/tcp/4002/ipfs/QmPvnFXWAz1eSghXD6JKpHxaGjbVo4VhBXY2wdBxKPbne5` should have circuit relay enabled
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<AuHau> Hey guys,
<AuHau> I am bit confused about one thing when comes to IPNS and the lifetime parameter. I understand that the IPNS record expires based on the lifetime parameter, but does my daemon republish it automatically when it is online or I have to call manually the publish command again to refresh the entry?
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<D_> AuHau: there is a config setting for how often to republish: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/config.md#ipns
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<AuHau> Oh lol, I was just implementing republishing service 😆 Well than that is not really needed then...
<AuHau> Thanks D_
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<postables[m]> isn't republishing only done with the `self` key for now?
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<postables[m]> i myself have never had nodes records be republished, so can confirm that issue is present
<postables[m]> *edit:* ~~i myself have never had nodes records be republished, so can confirm that issue is present~~ -> i myself have never had nodes records be republished, so can confirm that issue is present on my end at least
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<Bl4ckC0r3> hello
<Bl4ckC0r3> How I can delete my own content from my own HDD in ipfs
<Bl4ckC0r3> I don`t carre if another node download my files
<Bl4ckC0r3> i just want to clean my ipfs node
<Bl4ckC0r3> from myself hdd
<Bl4ckC0r3> because i delete the files on the ipfs interface
<Bl4ckC0r3> i dont have anymore folders and files on my Files section
<Bl4ckC0r3> but still it show my that i use 1 GB of space from my HDD
<Bl4ckC0r3> how it is possibile if i deleted them from my HDD
<D_> Bl4ckC0r3: you can run garbage collection with `ipfs repo gc`, which gets rid of stuff that is not pinned
<Bl4ckC0r3> thank you
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<AuHau> postables[m]:
<Bl4ckC0r3> I heard something verry interesting
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<Bl4ckC0r3> Like someone create a website as a filehosting provider
<AuHau> postables[m]: Well the issue you referenced is closed and the PR it solves the problem is merged and should be in since 0.4.10-rc1...
<Bl4ckC0r3> And that guy use the ipfs to store files
<Bl4ckC0r3> The question is, can that guy host the files on my HDD
<Bl4ckC0r3> Because i am nobody stupid
<AuHau> Yeah there are already services like this to pin your content, like https://pinata.cloud/
<Bl4ckC0r3> make me please understand how ipfs work
<D_> IPFS will only cache things you request through it, or things you add yourself
<D_> and that's what you host
<Bl4ckC0r3> oh, ok
<Bl4ckC0r3> then it is ok
<Bl4ckC0r3> I belived that guy use my HDD space storage for his bussines
<Bl4ckC0r3> but if i host only my files is ok then
<Bl4ckC0r3> thank you
<r0kk3rz> its a common misconception
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<lordcirth> But the whitepaper says that bitswap requests blocks your peers want, in order to trade. Is that no longer true?
<postables[m]> So unless you're publishing with the self key, you might want to write your republishing service anyways as that issue is still open
<lordcirth> postables[m], I just made a cron job
<AuHau> postables[m]: I am confused, open? The link you provided points to closed issue...
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<lordcirth> postables[m], AuHau it seems to have been merged into 4.18
<lordcirth> Oh, since 4.10, actually
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<AuHau> Yeah...
<lordcirth> So, I don't need my cron job that runs 'ipfs name publish'?
<AuHau> Hmm I am trying to test this. Can you access `/ipns/QmWPmbzmVDMocqLvNZxkbDCfdKU3Jr7JBru69uJejjZPVP/` ? That one was published quiet some time ago for some testing, so if you can access it then, it should work as expected...
<lordcirth> AuHau, yes, but it took 60s
<AuHau> Yeah, that it IPNS.. 😆
<AuHau> Cool, so I would say it works as expected :-)
<lordcirth> AuHau, did you set a ttl on it?
<AuHau> Nope, should I?
<lordcirth> AuHau, setting a ttl means that if I try to resolve it again a minute later, it won't take another minute, because I'll cache it for a bit
<AuHau> lordcirth: Oh, I see, then I should :-D
<AuHau> Cool, thanks for heads up.
<lordcirth> I set a 5m ttl on my blog