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[commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/flash.c: implemented flash_can_write and flash_read (were stubs) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/553c981
<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/flash.c: simplified logic of flash_write and corrected several small bugs http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/2978afe
<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw: introduced function flash_end_write to properly finish flashing http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/c265151
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[commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/usb/atu2.c (handle_ep): cancel RX/TX if we receive a SETUP http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e5571a2
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[commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw: implemented USB bus reset (to host) and polling of reset from host http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/d233c04
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: need the files, I have no f&7ing idea on how to generate them, I never see any cad/cam software apart of autocad14 in tech drawing practice at school ... 15years ago.
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: send me an email I will be not online all weekend
<wolfspraul>
kyak: I want to try to get keyboard and mouse usb gadgets to work, so the ben can act as a controller for milkymist one
<wolfspraul>
but I think they don't even exist in kernel.org yet :-)
<kyak>
wolfspraul: yeah, there is only limited number of usb gadget drivers, at least what i see in 2.6.32
<kyak>
wolfspraul: there is usb audio gadget, which (theoretically) could "forward" Ben's ALSA outpust via USB to a host PC. So Ben would act like USB audio card
<kyak>
i don't know the use case, but sounds fun :)
<B_Lizzard>
Well, better than buying a USB sound card
<B_Lizzard>
I guess it could be useful for people who do mixes and need two different outputs
<B_Lizzard>
:D
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak:( make gerber) I cant be much thankful and happy, i hope tuxbrain_away too :-)
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: : well, i need apply wolfspraul patches, but thats a worth task for sure
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul: nanonote and milkymist (hid way), it sounds good but is not a bit ironic when you miss the the LCM part ;-), well i think
<kristianpaul>
I agree is a valida accesory
<kristianpaul>
valid*
<wolfspraul>
I'm embarassingly behind on those. first the new bugs/features from werner, then my proposal for upstreaming which I never followed up on. argh.
<wolfspraul>
the wolfspraul patches are merged with the wpwrak patches, so it's only 1 patchset actually
<kristianpaul>
kyak: (semn audio) there is person working asking and working on that path, and asked here several times, i hope he read the backlog :-)
<kristianpaul>
ah, are/were two patches... ok, i'll check wiki page you pointed
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul I was organizing the buy group last week, after around 10 person a i mailed wich we're interested or tell me i want one, just 2 confirmed :/ what a shame... but thats how it works
<kristianpaul>
I dont give up, but rely on people to buy stuff is really hard..
<kristianpaul>
I imagige if just mail then saying. hey i have this pocketcomputer, you want to buy it? what the response will be in this case..
<wolfspraul>
kristianpaul: you mean NanoNote group buy?
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul: yeah
<kristianpaul>
Feels bad when two or three people said, hey sell me one... and response. oh well. we need arrange buy group..
<kristianpaul>
Anyway...
<kristianpaul>
I still trying
<wolfspraul>
you cannot force things beyond a certain point. Just advertise yourself as the copyleft hw guy in Colombia, slowly some truly good contacts will emerge.
<kristianpaul>
yeah sure
<kristianpaul>
wolfspraul: actually we have guy contact here, woakas !
<kristianpaul>
He  is interested on buy a nanonote, that i cant sell, i wonder he already managed to get it in other way?..
<kristianpaul>
roh: i remenber a saw an old movie once about a big nuclear cloud wich spread around globe.. and x-|
<kristianpaul>
last country to staya live was autralia
<kristianpaul>
panic ! ;-)
<Jay7>
this world is coming to EOL
<Jay7>
another world would be created and this would be destroyed :)
<Jay7>
we are under garbage collector ;)
<kristianpaul>
lol
<kristianpaul>
nice article lekernel
<lekernel>
otoh I read another source that says Japan declined the coolant shipment offer from the US
<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: that was a lovely movie
<roh>
lekernel: the whole thing is bogus.
<roh>
the 'cooling shipment' thing. its cooling with water.. wtf.
<lekernel>
that's what the link I posted says: they might want to add boron (which would be shipped from the US) to stop the reaction faster
<roh>
they should already have bor-acid on site before
<roh>
but its too late now.
<lekernel>
who knows, maybe they had a leak or something
<wpwrak>
roh: apparently, they have the acid available
<roh>
since they had sinking coolant levels i would say they for sure have a leak
<roh>
the only one constantly lying seems to be the japan goverment. 'soviet style information management'
<wpwrak>
roh: (water) depends a bit on what you're cooling. if it's the outside of the primary containments, it think the more the merrier
<roh>
if you ask me, it sounds much more like tschernobyl than like 3mile island. especially since the explosion destroying good parts of the external containment
<Jay7>
seems they really have leak
<Jay7>
is looking to news sites
<roh>
they are leaking long before the explosion. i mean.. missing cooling water needs to go somewhere. also they were measuring cesium in  the atmosphere before i went to bed... like 10 hours ago
<Jay7>
they evacuating people from 30km zone around
<wpwrak>
roh: i wonder what the cesium meant. was it just that they vented stuff from the primary system into the secondary ? or an uncontrolled escapement from the primary ?
<lekernel>
roh: at least, the confusion and lack of information in the news sure does look like chernobyl
<wpwrak>
roh: ah, and any chance imap.openmoko.org may survive the apocalypse ?
<lekernel>
we don't even know what exactly exploded... is it such a difficult thing to find out?
<wpwrak>
lekernel: i think that is to be expected to some degree
<wpwrak>
lekernel: i think the people who have the most accurate picture have other things to do at the moment than to give explanations to the global press ;)
<roh>
wpwrak: no information yet. cannot reach the host atm
<wpwrak>
roh: oh, sounds suckish
<roh>
could be hw.. dunno yet.
<roh>
its saturday. so.. i wouldn bet on it before monday
<tuxbrain_away>
kristianpaul: once upon a time I have started  an "openmoko showrom" web site that read directly on opkg repos , http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/om-showroom-something-show, due openmoko start dying an I have received no support I park that project but if there is enough interest I can reconvert it to Nanonote showroom, and it can show both jlime and openwrt apps...
<kristianpaul>
si
<tuxbrain_away>
kristianpaul: si , que?
<kristianpaul>
se me cruzo el canal. perdon :-)
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: isn't that a bit like yi's list of applications ?
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: yes i think
<tuxbrain_away>
yes, and that's why I haven't said nothing until today... the only advantage I see over the wiki , is that the source of app is the opkg repo, so you have the description and link to the ipk file on a db, you only have to add the pic and maybe add more descritpion, new apps show up to the admins of the page... but well, as you can see I have not said nothing until today , I can stay silent again on it :) , in fact I have not much motivation to re
<tuxbrain_away>
t that project.
<tuxbrain_away>
is reading about slave spi on Atmega chips...
<kristianpaul>
oh.. be aware of tuxbrain_away new ideas ! ;-)
<tuxbrain_away>
very few information most of people trying has go to I2C
<kristianpaul>
And finally stops looking at uart :-)
<kristianpaul>
tuxbrain_away: yeah, i2c is well known
<tuxbrain_away>
well we should find a way to atmega(uart->slave spi) ->nn(master SPI ->/dev/watevertty)
<tuxbrain_away>
btw, you think UBB can be used also as I2C interface?
<roh>
sure. bitbanging.
<roh>
in gpio mode
<tuxbrain_away>
so just as we achived the SPI master
<tuxbrain_away>
making wpwrak coding it :P
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: still waiting for the files for atben/atusb
<tuxbrain_away>
no rush just want to make you notice in case of you have try to send somthing , I have no recive anithing yet
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: for the smt files, i'll actually need input from adam. but maybe you don't require all the details for a quote.
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: no haven't sent something. hmm, with the imap.openmoko.org troubles, that could become an issue, too. well, sending ought to be fine, just not receiving any bounces or such.
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: (spi, i2c, ...) in fact, there are drivers for this in the kernel already ;-)
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: (no rush) in fact, i figured that it wouldn't be overly useful for you before monday morning, so i get one more day to slack :)
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: (kernel) well this is like telling to me that driver are in a cave in uganda.... I will arrive there but it will take me some time
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: so better start the journey fast ;-)
<tuxbrain_away>
yep the hard part is to convice my wife this is usefull for something :P
<tuxbrain_away>
she is still waiting for the freaks knoking at my door for the Ardunote initative
<kristianpaul>
nok nok
<kristianpaul>
xD
<tuxbrain_away>
common kristianpaul you are already sitting in my sofa drinking beer for a while :) I mean new and huge amount of freaks :P
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: (ardunote) any reactions so far ?
<kristianpaul>
jajaja
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: i'm kinda curious what else will crawl out of ubb, we's still a few things short to make it truly accessible, but then, maybe others can help there, too
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: few less than expected I must say but well ... the more encouraging and discouraging at same time is one guy of the Arduino spanish comunity telling me : "Hey well done!, when will be a GUI ready?" (sight)
<kristianpaul>
thats expected
<kristianpaul>
gui and arduino are a team
<tuxbrain_away>
kristianpaul: yeah I know is on my roadmap , but there a tons of thing to be done before reach that point
<kristianpaul>
you explain the avrdude part and is like saying there are programinn in asm
<kristianpaul>
memory one if then..
<kristianpaul>
;-)
<kristianpaul>
or a lot of swap...
<kristianpaul>
or write the editor with sdl and then call avrdude
<kristianpaul>
:-)
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: (ardunote) needs a bit more pushing, i guess. also the use case may not be obvious
<tuxbrain_away>
of course runing the actual arduino soft is totally out of scope, I have to write or adapt an already done editor and make it looks like the arduino front end and as you said call avrdude, the idea is to make the gui generate the make file and runt make and avrdude in the backstage :)
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: also, the use of your ardunote goes beyond just the arduino
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: well I'm working with some 3D printers guys and maybe we will have the first use case as 3d printer frontend :)
<tuxbrain_away>
wpwrak: yeah it about all avr chips :)
<kristianpaul>
why not just advertise: This guy program arduino without a PC
<wpwrak>
tuxbrain_away: (3d printer) wow
<Jay7>
kristianpaul: by his mind power! :)
<kristianpaul>
tuxbrain_away: 3d print? wich printer?
<kristianpaul>
Jay7: :)
<tuxbrain_away>
kristianpaul: you will see, actually I'm under NDA yet
<kristianpaul>
NDA? no way thats extratasys? ;-)
<kristianpaul>
sure is a makerbot as hackable devices sell it too
<wpwrak>
Jay7: well Obi-Wan Kenobi was known as Ben Kenobi. this should give us a hint :)