01:38 <wpwrak> ... and a bit of sandpaper takes care of those imperfections :)

01:39 <wpwrak> (the joy of MDF. with acrylic, this will be harder. literally.)

01:59 <wpwrak> grmbl. kicad now saves non-plated through-holes in a separate drill file (<name>-NPTH.drl) no surprise my pcbs ended up not having them ...

02:03 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: cameo/templates/mkmk-simple: also look for new <name>-NPTH.drl (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/e246127

12:25 <LunaVorax> hi!

19:45 <viric> uf quina calor

21:09 <kristianpaul> damn, feels so incapable not having a way to powerup stuff and just wait eternally electrical company to arrive..

21:15 <viric> if you are on irc, you had a way to power up stuff

21:26 <kristianpaul> i meant provide powerup as provide electrical energy to my computer(s)

21:29 <viric> I don't understand much. You speak as if you couldn't power any computer.

21:29 <viric> :)

21:29 <kristianpaul> yup thats it :)

21:29 <kristianpaul> was*

21:29 <viric> while you use some computer though

21:29 <kristianpaul> ahh sorry

21:30 <kristianpaul> i meant until now

21:30 <viric> ahhh

21:31 <kristianpaul> i just was trying to make a point around electricity outage..

21:31 <viric> ok

21:31 <viric> kristianpaul: you were in Colombia, right?

21:31 <kristianpaul> i'm yes

21:31 <viric> ok

21:32 <kristianpaul> this never happen to me in 11years..

21:32 <viric> what happened'

21:32 <viric> ?

21:32 <kristianpaul> afaik solar still kinda expensive and not the resolve all problems

21:32 <kristianpaul> viric: it seems was just a fuse

21:33 <kristianpaul> but i have to call the electric company and wait.. and wait.. :-)

21:33 <wpwrak> one power failure in 11 years and you're complaining ? :)

21:34 <kristianpaul> yes ;)

21:35 <kristianpaul> well, they were other but never waited so long

21:35 <wpwrak> how long ?

21:35 <kristianpaul> 16hrs..

21:35 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: do you have alternative electricity power sources in your home?

21:36 <wpwrak> okay, 16 h is kinda long. only had a cut of some 12 hours so far. not that there hadn't been worse in the area.

21:36 <wpwrak> just a UPS

21:36 <wpwrak> takes the sting out of those brownouts

21:37 <kristianpaul> yeah, that remenber i need ti buy a new battery ...

21:37 <kristianpaul> to*

21:52 <viric> do you live in cities?

21:54 <kristianpaul> yep

22:36 <wpwrak> viric: <aol>me too</aol>

22:36 <viric> ok :)

22:38 <wpwrak> if i was living in the countryside, i'd probably be happy to have no electricity. there's been heavy rain in the last week or so and some 1700 people had to be evacuated. hundreds are still waiting to be able to return to their homes, or what's left of them.

22:39 <wpwrak> luckily, we don't have such problems in the city. particularly not after a major drain channel was opened earlier this year. it's being put to very good use these days.

22:41 <viric> aha

22:42 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: how's connectivity during brownouts?

22:42 <DocScrutinizer05> or even outages

22:43 <wpwrak> if power goes down in the building, so does internet access (over catv)

22:43 <wpwrak> brownouts tend to go unnoticed, though

22:44 <DocScrutinizer05> those were the times when your phone still worked when no light til horizon (even with ISDN)

22:46 <DocScrutinizer05> nowadays odds are your GSM phone works on blackouts, while landline goes down even with electricity all fine ;-)

22:46 <wpwrak> the building can also suffer a partial failure (there are two inbound lines). the terminal equipment for the network is on the other line. so there's a small probability for internet access failing (along with elevators, water pumps, etc.), while i still have electricity in all my apartment

22:46 <wpwrak> landline is obsolete anyway ;-)

22:47 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway now I can kill/restart the infobot for good, as long as the DSL line and server are still ok.

22:48 <wpwrak> ;-)

22:48 <DocScrutinizer05> friggin thing suffers from not noticing offline state due to netsplits etc. So recently it been more offline than online

22:49 <DocScrutinizer05> and each time I had to *mail* Tim to pretty please give it a kick

22:49 <DocScrutinizer05> perl anybody?

22:49 <DocScrutinizer05> bot's scheduler written in perl, needs some love

22:49 <wpwrak> doesn't sound like a very robust design

22:50 <DocScrutinizer05> interfacing a truly autonomous bot to freenode's servers isn't exactly trivial. Esp since "moving target"

22:52 <DocScrutinizer05> there were times where bot had to throttle chan joining to max 1 / 10s, otherwise some watchdog in freenode goes mad. Not anymore. But every other week something new to cope with

22:53 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+chaninfo

22:53 <infobot> 124/124 channels, 4912 users, 3518 unique: #debian/1159, #kde/363, #maemo/271, #gsoc/231, #meego/197, #harmattan/180, #asterisk/172, #wowuidev/152, #oe/143, #wowace/116, #webos-internals/111, #wowhead/100, #openmoko/85, #arm-netbook/82, #utah/75, #bzflag/67, #n9/66, #uclibc/66, #openmoko-cdevel/65, #tomcat/56, #edev/54, #qi-hardware/52, #htc-linux/51, #maemo-ssu/51, #curseforge/49, #sc2mapster/47, #asterisk-dev/41, #elinux/41, #uphpu/40, ...

22:54 <wpwrak> seems like a very reasonable rate limit to me

22:55 <Ayla> 1107 more and we reach #debian!

22:55 <DocScrutinizer05> actually it's not, every stupid irc client will join faster, when you got some 50 chan on autojoin

22:57 <DocScrutinizer05> since ircd7 the bot never gained stability level it had before

22:58 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+uptime

22:58 <infobot> - Uptime for infobot -

22:58 <infobot> Now: 35m 48s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux

22:58 <infobot> 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009

22:58 <infobot> 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010

22:58 <infobot> 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009

23:02 <DocScrutinizer05> btw did I mention I resign at STE?

23:02 <kristianpaul> nope..

23:19 <wpwrak> you hinted at a future change. why did you leave ? and what's next ?

23:21 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm leaving since STE has not the job I hoped for, opening up opportunities for new stuff to come

23:22 <DocScrutinizer05> I could say I'm leaving since my alergy against winXP wasn't manageable, but that was only half of the truth

23:22 <wpwrak> but at least it was half of it ;-)

23:23 <DocScrutinizer05> yep, if I would have managed to get that linux account (and tasks to do there) earlier, or at all, maybe things were different

23:25 <DocScrutinizer05> well, maybe 9 month is just the maximum time span you could manage mail in outlook, before it starts to become a total mess

23:25 <wpwrak> a mail system with an expiration date. very nice ;-)

23:26 <DocScrutinizer05> no hard expiration date, just the point where chaos tips over

23:28 <wpwrak> few expiration dates are "hard". or do you believe your yoghurt suddenly goes from perfect to inedible when the clock strikes midnight ? :)

23:28 <DocScrutinizer05> basically way too much 'paperwork' and way too little fun with hardware

23:30 <wpwrak> sounds like the joy of big companies

23:30 <DocScrutinizer05> exactly

23:37 <kristianpaul> hey adam :)