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<drbrain>
neat
<drbrain>
perry: is the source in a private repo?
<apeiros>
sadly the links all are 404 errors…
<drbrain>
I get a 404 when clicking
<perry>
yes not open source yet. need to do some refactoring.
<drbrain>
?
<perry>
the gem has no code in it yet :)
<drbrain>
oh :/
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<perry>
drbrain, can gems be command line tools?
<drbrain>
gems can be anything you want
<drbrain>
like zombo.com
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<perry>
lol
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<zzak>
hi
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<larry0>
hi
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<blowmage>
zenspider: minitest 5.0.4
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<pondser>
I'm polling a url with every cycle using open-uri/open. My disk usage increases with every cycle by the size of the data under that url. How can I go about 'opening' a stream/url without increasing disk usage? Also, were are those file written - check /tmp and ~/tmp
<lupine>
pondser, ring buffer, log rotate sort of stuff
<lupine>
if you're not actually interested in the data, don't write it to a file, of course
<brixen>
charliesome: will you write a rubyspec for the constant cache bug?
<charliesome>
brixen: i've written one!
<brixen>
awesome!
<charliesome>
brixen: dbussink said to just put it in my PR to rubinius and it'd get merged back into rubyspec
<pondser>
lupine: I'm interested in that data, it's a json that is changing every cycle, but I don't need to keep it
<brixen>
charliesome: I was just looking at rbx issues and didn't see anything
<charliesome>
it's pretty amazing that a bug like that affects all three implementations
<brixen>
not a bit surprising imo :)
<pondser>
lupine: could you hint me on where those file are written to? I did a 'lsof' on ruby and didn't find any cache-like files or anything similiar
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<lupine>
afaik, it's not automatically written anywhere
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<pondser>
lupine: so I thought, but my disk usage increases with every 'open' but there's nothing being written to /tmp or ~/tmp; so I'm curious where it is actually being written to
<pondser>
because that disk space isn't released after aborting the script
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<lupine>
try tunning it under strace
<lupine>
running*
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<pondser>
lupine: never done that, what should I be looking for? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qLjqthkc I left it running for a few cycles of 'NET::HTTP.get'
<pondser>
so there will be some recurring pattern in it I believe
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<lupine>
pondser, calls to open() or write()
<lupine>
I don't see anything suggesting it's dumping the http response to disc
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<lupine>
how do you know it is?#
<pondser>
lupine: I'm doing a 'watch df' and I see an increase in used space every cycle equal to the size of the string I'm polling
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<pondser>
and it doesn't get cleared when aborting
<lupine>
well, strace shows you where every byte that script write()s ends up
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<pondser>
lupine: I imagine so, but can't find anything that would lead me to an answer
<whitequark>
pondser: (written to tmp) there is a certain trick that http servers use
<whitequark>
on *nix
<whitequark>
basically, you create a temporary file and then immediately unlink it, WITHOUT closing it
<lupine>
right, that's not happening here
<whitequark>
so now you have an fd, which corresponds to some space on disk, and which cannot be addressed by any other application
<whitequark>
servers use it for buffering.
<pondser>
so it's the sever that does that upon visiting that page?
<whitequark>
pondser: no, that was just an example.
<whitequark>
strace should have you covered.
<lupine>
oh, actually, he is connecting to localhost
<whitequark>
strace -eopen,unlink -- ./yourscript
<lupine>
so it's possible it's the server nomming the ram, not the client
<lupine>
heh, maybe the server is logging the http response to disc, pondser
<pondser>
sounds probable
<pondser>
will investigate
<lupine>
either way, it's not your client code
<whitequark>
nginx does that
<pondser>
whitequark: is that what you were suggesting?
<whitequark>
pondser: well, that technique can be used by client or server alike. I was just suggesting a mechanism by which disk space can be eaten without any files appearing.
<whitequark>
I only know for sure that it is used by servers. net-http likely does not do that.
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<pondser>
whitequark: I think I understand your example, thanks
<pondser>
okay, access.log and error.log are definitely growing with every request...
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<bcardarella>
If extend is the class level version of include is there a class level version of prepend in Ruby 2.0?
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<bcardarella>
apeiros: I was thinking the same, just didn't know if there was a explicit method
<bcardarella>
ty
<pondser>
whitequar,: lupine it was the apache log being written to the disk. thanks for hinitng me to the solution. if it wasn't for this convesation, it might've taken me another two days to debug
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<hdm>
anyone around that has successfully linked a static build of ruby on win32? seems 1.9.3, 2.0.0, and trunk all have fatal bugs regarding static linking
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<yorickpeterse>
man blagging is hard
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<yorickpeterse>
NERDS, I NEED SOMEBODY TO SPELL CJECK MY BLAG
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