#ruby-lang on 2014-02-24 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-02-20 16:11 ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim Weirich || Ruby 2.1.0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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00:00 <centrx> rubyday_, It is sometimes helpful to look at other people's source code and sure, to make improvements to it

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00:01 <rubyday_> centrx thank you so much for being helpful. I appreciate it. I will look at their code and make sure I understand before I start making any requests for pulls.

00:01 <centrx> rubyday_, But if you are a true beginner, it may not be easy to make contributions that will be accepted into an established project

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00:02 <centrx> You are welcome

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04:42 <karamazov424> Is it best to install ruby versions with RVM as opposed to brew?

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04:43 <centrx> karamazov424, RVM is usually for if you need multiple installations of Ruby or sets of gems

04:44 <karamazov424> centrx: I'm just starting out - had fiddled with it awhile ago and installed RVM because of an app I was working with. Not sure if I should just clean everything out and start new with a brew install.

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04:45 <pipework> karamazov424: I use chruby and ruby-install for multiple user rubies for development.

04:46 <karamazov424> pipework: cool - thanks for the input

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04:46 <pipework> karamazov424: But I use homebrew'd ruby as a system ruby over the one distributed with OS X.

04:46 <norder> karamazov424: rvm is pretty useful, even when you're starting out. I would remove all rubies and gemsets from rvm, update rvm, and go from there (it's pretty fresh)

04:47 <pipework> But ruby-install is super simple in all aspects, and chruby is as well. Pick your poison.

04:47 <karamazov424> norder: Awesome, I'll look into doing that.

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04:47 <karamazov424> I think I'm a bit addicted to ruby - it's cutting into my work time.

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04:48 <norder> karamazov424: that's why i got a job cutting ruby :P

04:49 <karamazov424> norder: That's my plan! I'm done dealing making wordpress sites and dealing with front end design (graphics and what not). Ready to move into something that my brain likes

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04:51 <havenwood> karamazov424: brew install ruby-install chruby; ruby-install ruby

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04:51 <karamazov424> havenwood: I'm reading up on chruby as I type. Thanks!

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05:48 <ruby-lang463> hello

05:48 <centrx> Ahoy

05:48 <ruby-lang463> i wanna to find ruby scripts

05:49 <centrx> Ruby scripts like what?

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05:49 <ruby-lang463> pentest

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05:50 <ruby-lang463> i wanna to learn ruby secuity scripts

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05:51 <centrx> You wish to learn the Way of Ruby?

05:52 <ruby-lang463> many ways. i want to learn all . webcam, web, mail

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05:53 <ruby-lang463> how to find ? can you help me ?

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05:54 <centrx> ruby-lang463, https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/quickstart/

05:54 <ruby-lang463> plz, give me some keywords for finding ruby scripts

05:54 <ruby-lang463> thx fri :)

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06:01 <ruby-lang463> why quite in chat ?

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06:03 <centrx> ruby-lang463, 1) It is night-time in both America and Europe

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06:03 <ruby-lang463> wow!

06:03 <centrx> ruby-lang463, 2) This is not the only Ruby channel on Freenode

06:03 <ruby-lang463> sry bro!

06:03 <centrx> I am awake.

06:03 <centrx> I am just telling you why it is quite at this time

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06:04 <ruby-lang463> thx

06:05 <freedrull> troll detected

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06:06 <ruby-lang463> what ?

06:06 <ruby-lang463> troll me ? o.O

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06:07 <ruby-lang463> c ya ..

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08:37 <whitequark> dbussink: it still explodes... https://travis-ci.org/whitequark/parser/jobs/19482091#L135

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09:33 <_rgn> which cmd line option parser should i use?

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09:49 <ljarvis> _rgn: i hear slop is good

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09:52 <lisberoia> hello

09:52 <lisberoia> I was here last week or so with this issue: http://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby-lang/2014-02-16#6505854

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09:52 <lisberoia> ctape works, although it is impredictable when it works or not

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09:54 <lisberoia> the command ./tape-read.rb > somefile.xx starts the application, which sometimes won't work, and if the file on tape lasts 15 minutes you want to know from the begining that it is not working

09:54 <yorickpeterse> morning

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09:54 <lisberoia> can any ruby expert tweak the code to display "loading started" when the ... loading starts? thanks

09:55 <lisberoia> it is a very short script

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09:56 <lisberoia> the script is at https://github.com/windytan/ctape/

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10:06 <mrgrieves> I just built and installed ruby from source but I'm getting issues with openssl http://pastebin.com/faypZuBN

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10:06 <mrgrieves> any ideas what I might be missing?

10:06 <jhass> openssl dev headers at compile time I'd say

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10:07 <darix> jhass: naw

10:07 <jhass> oh, wait didn't check on the paste :P

10:07 <darix> he linked against a different openssl than what it loads at runtime

10:08 <mrgrieves> thanks guys, yes all I did at configure time was --prefix=/apps/appspuppet/local

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10:09 <mrgrieves> how can I make sure that everything is loaded correctly?

10:09 <darix> mrgrieves: and yet it managed to link a different openssl version than what is in your search path

10:09 <darix> mrgrieves: nobody knows your setup there

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10:10 <darix> maybe config.log from your ruby will tell you which openssl it is using

10:10 <darix> ldd apps/appspuppet/local/lib/ruby/2.1.0/x86_64-linux/openssl.so

10:10 <darix> will tell you where it loads openssl from

10:11 <mrgrieves> darix: maybe a bit of backgorund will help. On the build machine (rhel 6.4) I have installed a number of dev libraries. All I did at config time was the prefix. Once everything got built I packaged the whole thing in a tarball and moved it to another server on the same rhel release

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10:11 <darix> not exactly the same machine

10:11 <mrgrieves> that's true

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10:12 <mrgrieves> let me try the ldd command ...

10:12 <darix> e.g. if you check the rpm changelog of the build machine you might see something like reenabling ellyptic curve

10:12 <darix> that update is probably missing on your runtime host

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10:13 <badeball> lisberoia: you can always write to stderr to show something to the use while you're piping stdout to a file.

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10:13 <mrgrieves> darix: one of the things I'm trying to do here is to run as non-root. Unfortunately I don't have root access on the runtime host

10:14 <darix> mrgrieves: so ask the root to install the updates?

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10:14 <lisberoia> thanks badeball; how can I do that in ruby?

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10:15 <darix> lisberoia: $STDERR.puts

10:15 <lisberoia> alright

10:15 <mrgrieves> darix: Unfortunately they won't help :-(

10:15 <mrgrieves> http://pastebin.com/Q0grxp3B

10:15 <lisberoia> how can I spot in what line I should insert that command?

10:15 <mrgrieves> that's the ldd output

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10:17 <darix> mrgrieves: what wouldnt help?

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10:18 <mrgrieves> asking the admin to install any updates on the runtime machines

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10:18 <mrgrieves> I do have root access to the build mahine thou

10:18 <mrgrieves> and haven't updated any packages there for a while

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10:19 <mrgrieves> maybe something worth trying?

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10:20 <darix> both have to be on the same package level

10:21 <mrgrieves> but if I don't want to depend on any system libraries, is there a way to install ruby with all the dependencies in a custom dir?

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10:24 <_rgn> ljarvis: must be... https://github.com/leejarvis/slop

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10:24 <darix> mrgrieves: 1. dont do that. you could in theory also have all your runtime libs in your app specific path but that is a maintenance nightmare

10:24 <darix> mrgrieves: 2. i even question why you cant use the system ruby for running a puppet master

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10:26 <mrgrieves> darix: it's the client what I'm trying to run. Unfortunately the system ruby is wayyyy out of date

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10:28 <darix> mrgrieves: and?

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10:28 <darix> mrgrieves: what version do you have as system ruby?

10:28 <darix> not something like 1.8.7?

10:29 <mrgrieves> hehehe exactly that

10:29 <darix> that runs puppet just fine

10:29 <darix> even 3.3

10:29 <darix> versionitis is bad for you

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10:30 <ljarvis> _rgn: :)

10:30 <mrgrieves> darix: puppet runs but we have custom code that does not run ok on ruby 1.8.7

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10:31 <darix> mrgrieves: your own code?

10:31 <darix> i am sure you can make it work on 1.8 too

10:31 <darix> anyway

10:31 <darix> you know what the problem is and how to fix it.

10:31 <ljarvis> versionitis is good for you when talking about versions that are no longer maintained

10:31 <mrgrieves> before having to mantain the custom code to work with 2 diffrent versions of ruby I believe it's better to have all servers on the same ruby version

10:31 <darix> ljarvis: 1.8.7 is still maintained?

10:32 <ljarvis> darix: no it's not?

10:32 <jhass> not oficially

10:32 <mrgrieves> oh yes we can make it work but we want to avoid the mantainence overhead that brings

10:32 <darix> ljarvis: and i would bet that the distro packaged ruby will get more maintainance than his oneshot installed 2nd ruby

10:32 <ljarvis> that's not really the same thing

10:32 <darix> ljarvis: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2013/12/17/maintenance-of-1-8-7-and-1-9-2/

10:33 <darix> was official enough to get a website post

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10:33 <ljarvis> heh

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10:33 <ljarvis> I guess security maintenance is enough for most

10:34 <jhass> so it's better to spend effort now to make code compatible and spend effort in a year to get a newer ruby than to spend effort now to get a newer ruby?

10:34 <yorickpeterse> something something monday morning somebody broke the build

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10:34 <ljarvis> yorickpeterse: is that somebody == yorick?

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10:36 <yorickpeterse> Not this time

10:36 <mrgrieves> is there an easy way to pull all the runtime libs in the app path as part of the ruby install?

10:36 <yorickpeterse> I usually break builds on Friday afternoon before beer 'o clock

10:36 <darix> mrgrieves: you only need to updated the old openssl on your runtime machine

10:36 <ljarvis> ah yes, me too

10:36 <darix> it lacks a symbol that your build time machine has

10:36 <darix> you give me headaches

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10:49 <mrgrieves> darix: mate, it's not my intention to go against what you are saying or anything. It's just the circumstances for this particular scenario

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10:50 <mrgrieves> darix: but thanks for the help. Will try downgrade the openssl package on the build machine and see if that works

10:50 <darix> mrgrieves: in times like this you dont want an openssl without EC support.

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10:50 <darix> redhat was nice enough to reenable it after years of people maintaining their own openssl on rhel

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11:02 <unsymbol> moin

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11:04 <yorickpeterse> god damn it, I forgot I was supposed to write two talks this weekend

11:05 <yorickpeterse> blegh

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11:19 <_rgn> ljarvis: can you help me find an explanation of what each of these DEFAULT_OPTIONS mean? http://rubydoc.info/github/injekt/slop/Slop/Option

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11:29 <yorickpeterse> _rgn: which particular ones are you interested in?

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11:33 <chris2> Today Feb. 24th is the 21th anniversary of Ruby.

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11:34 <yorickpeterse> I'm older than Ruby, yay me

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11:35 <chris2> ruby can drive now ;)

11:35 <yorickpeterse> I can't :<

11:35 <chris2> i can in theory :P

11:36 <yorickpeterse> mostly because it's too expensive and I never bothered to get a license

11:36 <yorickpeterse> plus I can ride my bike everywhere anyway

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11:41 <darix> chris2: ruby could drive since 16 or 18... but now it can drink alcohol in most countries too.

11:41 <darix> not that you should combine those things.

11:41 <chris2> oh right

11:41 <chris2> can drive a bus :P

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12:04 <ljarvis> _rgn: they should be relatively self documenting

12:04 <ljarvis> _rgn: also, you want these http://leejarvis.github.io/slop/

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12:05 <ljarvis> er http://leejarvis.github.io/rdoc/slop/

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12:09 <Natalia21> You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69

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12:16 <yorickpeterse> lol?

12:16 <yorickpeterse> Though I'm getting curious about what's behind the secret door

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12:18 <yorickpeterse> ok that points to porno

12:18 <yorickpeterse> what a surprise

12:19 <yorickpeterse> oh heh, Dutch IP too

12:19 <yorickpeterse> lawl

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12:25 <karamazov424> I just did a clean install of Ruby on my mac running Mavericks...for some reason IRB doesn't show a depth level. Anyone ever experience this?

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12:33 <maloik_> what do you mean with depth level ?

12:33 <maloik_> also, did you install a new system ruby ?

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12:48 <ljarvis> uh, clicking that was a terrible idea

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12:51 <yorickpeterse> bro, do you even curl?

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12:51 <yorickpeterse> rule #1 of IRC club: don't open random URLs that are very very clearly spam in a regular browser

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12:59 <maloik_> there's an IRC club?

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12:59 <maloik_> why was I not aware

12:59 <maloik_> :(

12:59 <yorickpeterse> Yes

12:59 <yorickpeterse> It's right next to the key signing club

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13:00 <maloik> why would anyone sign a key

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13:01 <maloik> if you put it into the lock the signature would rub right off

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13:29 <yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/raw/lavaciqolo hm, this looks efficient

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13:29 <yorickpeterse> at least that should be fixed in RVM master

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14:09 <maloik> Any of you clever folks know of a way to make a view with tons of tiny d3.js graphs (like on http://cl.ly/image/2u1b2n0D3F3R) performant ?

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14:09 <maloik> If there were just one I'd let d3 make an ajax call to our internal api to fetch the data, but that's not an option on a datagrid view with 50 of such rows

14:09 <yorickpeterse> what do you want to make fast, data retrieval or rendering?

14:10 <maloik> rendering

14:10 <yorickpeterse> less graphs

14:11 <maloik> I've considered storing svg data in the db or on disk, as it would change once per day for each of those rows... or making the view store all points in a data attribute on one of the elements but neither sound ideal

14:11 <yorickpeterse> I haven't really used d3 that much but I've yet to come across a graphing solution in JS that isn't slow as hell

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14:11 <maloik> well to be clear

14:11 <maloik> by rendering I mean not making the user wait for 50 ajax calls to finish for each of the graphs

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14:13 <yorickpeterse> The only option for that is either bundle the requests together, or not use Ajax at all

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14:13 <yorickpeterse> or make them wait while showing some kind of spinner

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14:52 <yorickpeterse> man, this workout thing during work is working out (ha!) pretty well so far

14:53 <yorickpeterse> "How to become a loud jacked up brogrammer with yorickpeterse"

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14:54 <semaperepelitsa> maloik: I embed data into a script tag, like window.data = <%= data.to_json.html_safe %>, it works fine

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14:55 <lianj_> semaperepelitsa: 'fine'

14:56 <yorickpeterse> That works until the JSON gets big and it takes ages to request the page

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14:56 <lianj_> or until data is user input

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15:00 <semaperepelitsa> I guess my usecase is narrow. You could request all data in a single JSON, and use Cache-Control to speed up subsequent requests. If that's slow too, the only thing left is optimizing the amount of data per chart.

15:01 <naquad> can i somehow make byebug enter post mortem mode while i'm in it?

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15:03 <yorickpeterse> bytebug?

15:03 <yorickpeterse> * byebug

15:03 <naquad> debugger

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15:03 <naquad> but it figures out its just not working

15:03 <naquad> https://github.com/deivid-rodriguez/byebug/issues/39

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15:34 <maloik> http://cl.ly/image/3k0X273Q0O25

15:34 <maloik> oO

15:34 <maloik> clueless :(

15:35 <maloik> probably some kind of stupid html/css shit

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15:37 <ljarvis> D:

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16:34 <centrx> CHange the topic! RUby 2.1.1 has arrived!

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17:19 <ljarvis> fu freenode

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17:22 <apeiros> fuunode!

17:22 <apeiros> what did it do?

17:23 <ljarvis> reverting the topic back even though i have +t

17:24 <apeiros> ljarvis: hu?

17:24 <apeiros> I updated the topic

17:24 <ljarvis> apeiros: https://gist.github.com/leejarvis/eb52acbc6e54eee6a63e

17:24 <apeiros> you omitted 2.1.1 and 2.0.0-p451

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17:25 <ljarvis> no I didnt

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17:25 <apeiros> oh

17:25 <apeiros> fuunode!

17:25 <ljarvis> ^

17:25 <c3ntrx> foonode!

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18:44 <apeiros> ljarvis: same thing on #ruby

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18:45 <yorickpeterse> Freenode doesn't agree with ljarvis having +o

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18:46 <ddd> probably needs to be added to ACCESS listing

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18:47 <apeiros> ddd: no, it's an issue with freenode

18:48 <ddd> ah

18:48 <apeiros> I changed topics routinely, and now freenode reverts it

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18:48 <ddd> desync or is topic in the channel config so FN is reverting?

18:49 <apeiros> I'm quite sure the owners of #ruby and #ruby-lang didn't sync their change of settings ;-)

18:49 <ddd> ah

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18:49 <apeiros> seems it accepted it here. I set it on #ruby again, lets see how long it lasts there…

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18:50 <apeiros> last time it lasted for ~33min :)

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18:52 <ddd> err

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20:47 <xybre> You can set the topic through chanserv too. That seems to stick.

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22:06 <ljarvis> apeiros: weird

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22:23 <crazyyossarian> Has anyone had any experience making Net HTTP requests against ipv6 addresses? If I build the request with the 'bracket, [2607:f8b0:4010:801::1009]' syntax for the host URI parser works correctly but TCPSocket doesnt like it. If I exclude the bracket syntax URI parser can't parse the host. Ex: https://gist.github.com/sidereel-dev/9198463

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22:26 <jhass> crazyyossarian: hm, tried including the protocol? "http://[...]"

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22:27 <wnd> I just tried "http://[2001:708:310:54::99]"; SocketError: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known

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22:27 <crazyyossarian> jhass: unless I am mistaken Net::HTTP.new takes the host as an argument

22:28 <crazyyossarian> adding http to the host gives an invalid URI, URI::InvalidURIError: bad URI(is not URI?): http://http://[2607:f8b0:4010:801::1009]:80 (not the double http)

22:28 <crazyyossarian> s/not/note

22:28 <ljarvis> that's correct

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22:29 <wnd> Net::HTTP.get(URI('http://[2001:708:310:54::99]/debian')) works for me

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22:32 <crazyyossarian> wnd: that works for me as well. I will have to dig through the net/http source to figure out what the different is between the .get vs building your own with HTTP and Request objects

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23:24 <jaimef> is there a way to omit whole blocks of code in erb with if/else?

23:27 <xybre> Yes

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