havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules: https://ruby-community.com | Ruby 3.0.0, 2.7.2, 2.6.6: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Paste 4+ lines of text to https://dpaste.org | Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ | Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby | BLM <3
<nakilon> that tells you that the clearest way is "Catch and Throw"
<havenwood> def foo = loop { loop { return 42 } }; foo #=> 42
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<nakilon> yeah, you've just polluted the namespace with a non-reusable method
<havenwood> nakilon: That's why we have private methods.
<nakilon> do hide them in a non-reusable classes?
<nakilon> *to
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<nakilon> to double the pollution since the private method still takes its identifier
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<havenwood> nakilon: You're complaining the *inside* of the garbage can is messy. True, but not a problem.
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<grummund> adam12, al2o3-cr: So... it turns out that '--skip-bundle' is all that is needed.
<grummund> The whole 'bundle config ...' 'bundle install ...' thing is a red-herring.
<grummund> ...just don't go there, and then jekyll hapilly uses the debian packages. ;-)
<grummund> happily, even. ;-)
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<al2o3-cr> grummund: bundle is tied to versions, it creates a clean environment if you will.
<al2o3-cr> a little virtual garden where everything is versioned.
<al2o3-cr> the thing was you wasn't doing bundle jekyll...
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<grummund> well it seems to be working fine without it, the jekyll docs appear not to have caught up with this yet.
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<nakilon> why can't yield accept a block? I have to give it a lambda and on the other side receive it without a &
<leftylink> ooh fascinating. let's see
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: because it's a closure itself, it can't close over another itself.
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<al2o3-cr> &>> def foo; @a = []; @a << yield end; foo { 1; 2; 3 }
<rubydoc> # => [3] (https://carc.in/#/r/ae29)
<al2o3-cr> it's an anonymous closure.
<leftylink> okay I see one ambiguity that would have to be solved first before yield accepting a block would be legal. if yield accepts a block A, then consider the block B that's just gotten block A yielded to it. how shall B invoke A? with yield? but yield in that position might have a different block, the one passed to code surrounding B. so this ambiguity needs to be resolved first
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<leftylink> &>> def f; yield(->a { a * 10 + 1 }) end; def g; f { |g| g[8] * 10 + yield } end; g { 9 }
<rubydoc> # => 819 (https://carc.in/#/r/ae2a)
<leftylink> so consider instead
<leftylink> def f; yield { |a| a * 10 + 1 } end; def g; f { yeild2???(8) * 10 + yield } end; g { 9 }
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<leftylink> I even spelled yield wrong, that's how concerning the problem was
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: your yielding a proc/lambda which is different than a true anonymous block of code.
<leftylink> agreed
<leftylink> as I was asked to do
<al2o3-cr> no worries. :)
<leftylink> :)
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: don't worry i've tried for many years to make it happen (using unorthodox methods) :p
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<nakilon> leftylink al2o3-cr this is some minified version of my code https://dpaste.org/fB3g/slim
<nakilon> see that I have to do "yield( lambda do ... end )" while I would like to do "yield do ... end"
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<al2o3-cr> i can't see why that doesn't work.
<al2o3-cr> ^ nakilon
<nakilon> so the codes that use this method are all different in lines 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26 -- they just need this stuff to cache the popen3 call part in the middle of these code piece
<nakilon> demo.rb:6: syntax error, unexpected keyword_do
<nakilon> p( yield do |stdin_data, &block|
<nakilon> ^
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<al2o3-cr> nakilon: it's a syntax error
<nakilon> no way ..D
<nakilon> that is what my question about
<nakilon> why is this syntax illegal and instead I have to pass the block as a lambda
<nakilon> I see no possible ambiguity
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: lambda do/{ |arg| or -> (arg) do/{
<nakilon> what?
<leftylink> it's too bad. like so many other times in the channel, person A can say something, but person A can't make person B pay attention
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: it's syntax error dude
<nakilon> leftylink "but yield in that position might have a different block" -- I don't want yield to call blocks passed to blocks (I want another feature) -- in my example there are only two methods and it's clear that the "yield" in the B will call the block A
<nakilon> al2o3-cr what?
<al2o3-cr> fix syntax error first
<nakilon> it is fixed
<al2o3-cr> no, that won't work.
<leftylink> understandable. so if the proposal were that at the yield-site the change is made, but at the yielded-to-site no change is made so that `yield` still only calls the block yielded to the method, it would retain one aspect of consistency of `yield`, in that it only yields to blocks passed to the method, very well. I would note however that it creates inconsistency around blocks, then. since sometimes you
<leftylink> will invoke them with `yield`, and sometimes you will do something else (whatever the new feature is)
<nakilon> actually it's even only one method so another yield won't even make sense -- it will be just accepted as &block instead of block
<leftylink> we see that language design is not easy
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: your calling |block| which is just an argument
<al2o3-cr> you need to pass &block
<nakilon> al2o3-cr it works ) just run it
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<al2o3-cr> not as you expect it too.
<nakilon> copypasting from dpaste puts some invisible unicode space characters though lol
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: dude, it prints the bytes.
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: what's the problem?
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<al2o3-cr> leftylink: give me some of that you've been smoking :p
<al2o3-cr> my eyes are gone!
<leftylink> well I did have an inkling to discuss how I used to use the idea of "I'm criticising the idea not the person" to be an asshole to people, but it was not on topic for #ruby so I shelved it for now
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: let your emojicons out dear :)
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: right or wrong doesn't matter
<al2o3-cr> you need to start putting ya chin up you.
<leftylink> I understand though I think my preference is to have a little more respect for the rules at this point in time
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: rules are there to broken. what do you think, your gonna hurt someone feelings?
<al2o3-cr> shit, life short bro.
<havenwood> can we please all concentrate on what really matters? syntax highlighting.
<leftylink> once one understands the rule, the one is able to make an informed decision on when to break it
<nakilon> havenwood on passing the block to yield )
<leftylink> and the rationale for why the rule exists of course
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: it's a IRC channel bro aha
<al2o3-cr> i could be a parrot for all you know
<al2o3-cr> nakilon: i'm pretty sure it can't be done
<al2o3-cr> not what you wrote, what your tring to do.
<al2o3-cr> *tring
<al2o3-cr> *trying
<al2o3-cr> fat fingers
<al2o3-cr> leftylink: stop trying to analyse people and be *yourself*
<al2o3-cr> because your very clued up.
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<al2o3-cr> nakilon: this is what i though you meant
<al2o3-cr> &>> def foo(&block) yield(block) end; foo { |n| n }
<rubydoc> # => #<Proc:0x0000560d5480a310 -e:4> (https://carc.in/#/r/ae35)
<al2o3-cr> &>> def foo(&block) yield(block) end; foo { |n| n.call }
<rubydoc> # => -e:4:in `block in <main>': undefined method `call' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)... check link for more (https://carc.in/#/r/ae36)
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<al2o3-cr> what i want is; a, b, c = (def foo() yield end; foo { 1; 2; 3 });
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<isene> My program throws out a silly warning as I am capturing "Ctrl-M" (it sees "^M" of course: t-rex:287: warning: encountered \r in middle of line, treated as a mere space
<isene> How do I turn that warning off from inside the program (i.e. no command line switches)?
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<adam12> isene: If your Ruby version is new enough and has Warning module, you can do it there. https://rubyapi.org/3.0/o/warning
<adam12> 2.5+ I believe.
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<isene> adam12: Cool
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<leftylink> collateral damage I see
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<deviantfero> hey guys I have a question regarding a piece of code but I don't know the guidelines to pasting code here, should I just paste it, or should I create a gist?
<adam12> deviantfero: If it's larger than 4 lines definitely Gist or dpaste.org
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<deviantfero> ok, so I want to know what would be the best way of getting rid of that "Cyclomatic complexity warning" without ignoring the rule on this method: https://dpaste.org/sScA
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<adam12> deviantfero: Which tool is reporting this? Flog?
<deviantfero> Rubocop
<deviantfero> it's just configured that way, I can't change it
<adam12> deviantfero: I'd probably try breaking up some of the conditionals into smaller methods with names.
<deviantfero> but I wouldn't know how to edit it appropriately
<adam12> deviantfero: ?
<deviantfero> yeah, I guess so, I personally think it's a dumb rule in this case
<deviantfero> but I have to abide by it
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<havenwood> deviantfero: Extract a private method, like adam12 said, for: !measurement_event? && out_of_range?
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<havenwood> deviantfero: If it's not a measurement but is out of range, what do you call that?
<havenwood> deviantfero: P.S. How can it be an active measurement event but not be a measurement event? That seems odd?
<adam12> This might be another class as well. ClassifyAlert or something.
<havenwood> Are not all active measurement events also measurement events?
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<deviantfero> measurement event has state (closed, claimed, unclaimed)
<deviantfero> so an active one is one that is not closed basically
<havenwood> deviantfero: might active_measurement_event? be true and also measurement_event? false, then?
<havenwood> deviantfero: Ah
<deviantfero> I think if active is true, then measurement_event? is gonna be true as well
<havenwood> deviantfero: okay, that makes sense - got it
<deviantfero> awesome, havenwood your suggestion is what I was looking for
<deviantfero> I have to come up with a name for it, but I'll manage
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<deviantfero> thanks adam12 as well :)
<adam12> yw!
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<cincy_kal> When having multiple rails apps running with sidekiq, is it best to run multiple redis as well? or just use different redis queues?
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<RougeR> anyone know how to mock service_checker on line 15?
<RougeR> its been a while since ive used rspec
<RougeR> I thought it was something like: allow(PostcodesChecker::Service).to receive(:new).and_return(double("service_checker"))
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