<dwrensha>
for me thats /opt/sandstorm/var/sandstorm/grains/eHPYePXSBCHYRNSSRJfmCb/sandbox
<dwrensha>
(also, before doing any of this, do make sure that you have a backup)
<dwrensha>
in that shell I start mongod like this: `mongod --port 4444 --dbpath wiredTigerDb/ --noauth --bind_ip 127.0.0.1 --storageEngine wiredTiger --wiredTigerEngineConfigString "log=(prealloc=false,file_max=200KB)" --wiredTigerCacheSizeGB 1 --logpath wiredTigerDb/mongo.log`
<aeternity>
ok, I am inside the sandbox grain...
<dwrensha>
then in another shell I can connect through `mongo --port 4444 meteor`
<aeternity>
ok, got it
<dwrensha>
for the `mongod` command to work, you'll need to make sure that neither you nor anyone else has an open session on the grain
<dwrensha>
so that you can get the lock
<aeternity>
worked
<dwrensha>
so what does `db.rocketchat.settings.find()` show?
<dwrensha>
so what does `db.rocketchat_settings.find()` show?
<aeternity>
just newline... must be missing something
<dwrensha>
did you try the second one I pasted?
<aeternity>
yes
<dwrensha>
what does `show collections` show?
<aeternity>
just 'db' returns 'meteor' and db.rocketchat_settings also returns meteor.rocketchat_settings, but adding .find() and it does not return anything
<aeternity>
'show collections' also just shows newline without anything
<aeternity>
not missing a semicolons somewhere or something?
<dwrensha>
I don't need a semicolon when I do it here
<aeternity>
if was that easy... :D
<aeternity>
dunno...
<aeternity>
strange, when I type in something random and press enter, a error message apepars
<aeternity>
also 'exit' works
<dwrensha>
the setting is named SlackBridge_Enabled
<aeternity>
but show collections just prints newline
<dwrensha>
aeternity: right, you've somehow connected to an old database
<dwrensha>
an empty database
<dwrensha>
are you sure this is the correct grain?
<aeternity>
yes
<dwrensha>
weird
<dwrensha>
do you have the correct filesystem permissions to read/write the database?
<aeternity>
WARNING: Access control is not enabled for the database.
<aeternity>
2017-01-06T01:26:53.794+0100 I CONTROL [initandlisten] ** Read and write access to data and configuration is unrestricted.
<aeternity>
said mongo
<aeternity>
ah!
<dwrensha>
anything interesting in mongo.log?
<aeternity>
I shortcutted --port with -p... but now it does not connect anymore.. connection refused
<dwrensha>
`mongo` does not connect to `mongod`?
<aeternity>
yep
<aeternity>
connection refused
<dwrensha>
maybe try specifying --host too?
<dwrensha>
`--host 127.0.0.1`
<dwrensha>
and maybe try using a port other than 4444
<dwrensha>
perhaps there is weird firewall stuff going on
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<dwrensha>
fyi, for the settings names, I looked in Rocket.Chat/packages/rocketchat-slackbridge
<aeternity>
still connection refused, and connect failed
<dwrensha>
:\
<aeternity>
ah
<aeternity>
2017-01-06T01:34:05.343+0100 I STORAGE [initandlisten] exception in initAndListen: 98 Unable to lock file: wiredTigerDb/mongod.lock Resource temporarily unavailable. Is a mongod instance already running?, terminating
<dwrensha>
does the mongo.log indicate that mongod is waiting for connections on the port that you think it is?
<aeternity>
I guess I stop sandstorm first
<dwrensha>
right, that error will happen if someone has a session open
<dwrensha>
`sudo sandstorm stop` would certainly kill that session
<aeternity>
yeah
<dwrensha>
OK, I need to get going. It sounds like you can probably take it from here.
<dwrensha>
I'll check here again in a few hours. Maybe someone else can help in the mean time if you get stuck
<aeternity>
so great, thank you!
<aeternity>
now I just get a mongo-error when that grain loads
<aeternity>
Mongo exited with error code: 100
<aeternity>
is that a typical error when you break your db? :D
<aeternity>
I guess wrong permissions... overwriting them with the sandstorm user
<aeternity>
worked
<aeternity>
thanks so much! dwrensha
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<harish>
hi. just came across sandstorm.io. this is fascinating for me.
<pdurbin>
Yeah. It's nice. Which part do you find fascinating?
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<harish>
pdurbin, that it makes running apps on the web fairly trivial. it does address the issue of not having to run your own server per se. the idea of a containerized app that is publicly usable is what is fascinating.
<pdurbin>
sure, you can run apps on Oasis rather than your own server
<harish>
pdurbin, i would run them on my own systems and make it trivially available to friends and family. I am exploring the oasis option as well.
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<pdurbin>
Cool. Yeah, I haven't installed it yet. I don't have a sense of how much effort it is.
<harish>
pdurbin, it looks easy enough for me - I'm a long time Linux admin etc - but my interest is in making the app consumption option easier and NOT on the phone. this seems to address that aspect rather well with the containerized model (I think it is containers, need to read more).
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<pdurbin>
Yeah, most of my family and friends wouldn't feel comfortable installing web apps.
<harish>
pdurbin, it is following the same paradigm of a phone app but within a browser and one that you can control.
<pdurbin>
Right. I mean, you'd be in control since you're hosting it. I'm sure your friends and family trust you. :) I wouldn't want to be reponsible for backing up their data but good on you.
<dwrensha>
aeternity: I'm happy you got it working
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<harish>
pdurbin, it is a collective trust. train and educate friends and family and things get better. the discussion has to start with "you trust others and not me?" and see where it goes.
<pdurbin>
I guess the others that they're trusting now are companies who operate in the cloud like Google. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about app consumption not on a phone. Do you not trust Apple's App Store or Google Play?
<ocdtrekkie>
I do not trust either of those stores.
<pdurbin>
Well, I guess you could always side load apps. It's easy on Android anyway. To bypass Google Play.
<TimMc>
There's trust to do and trust not to do. :-)
<harish>
pdurbin, it is not about the app stores per se. it is about the beauty of the web and not an app on a phone. the app on a phone implies constraints on many levels - space, security, privacy, access rights etc. The web app as noted here, uses the entire web and not have to be exposing oneself to issues with phone apps.
<TimMc>
(Competence vs. uprightness.)
<harish>
installing an app in the sandstorm model does not require access to YOUR contacts for example. That same app, if it were to be installed on a phone (via whatever app store) may invoke rights to stuff that you don't want to but cannot turn off for example.
<pdurbin>
Huh. I'm pretty sure you can't prevent apps on Android from accessing your contacts and whatever else. It's a relatively new feature.
<ocdtrekkie>
pdurbin: Sideloading apps is a lost cause on Android
<ocdtrekkie>
Tried it.
<ocdtrekkie>
Gave up.
<pdurbin>
Yeah, agreed. I just install stuff from Play. Like lots of people. :)
<ocdtrekkie>
Oh, I just got rid of Android.
<ocdtrekkie>
Sure, my new OS isn't open source either, but at least it doesn't pretend to be.
<ocdtrekkie>
Effectively, "able to sideload" doesn't matter when almost every app is now built to be dependent on Google Play Services. ;)
<ocdtrekkie>
There's like... 1000 apps total that aren't dependent on proprietary preloaded malware.
<pdurbin>
Yeah, forget what I said about sideloading. Hopefully I only use some of those 1000 apps. I tend to favor open source ones.
<ocdtrekkie>
I really wish there was a good open source OS that supported my carrier.
<ocdtrekkie>
Ubuntu or Tizen or something.
<pdurbin>
Yeah. Nice chatting with you all.
<harish>
pdurbin, have a good day. lunch time for me.
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<ravi_ocean>
Hello there :)
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