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<sn00n>
ja, die gibt's auch
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<sn00n>
azonenberg_work: that was kinda correct, right?
<azonenberg_work>
sn00n: possibly
<azonenberg_work>
i'm not familiar with rahdard stuff
<azonenberg_work>
ask digshadow :p
<sn00n>
#metoo (not familiar)
<azonenberg_work>
if any of my boards are getting irradiated, i'm more worried about G'ing TFO of where i am
<sn00n>
only from t3h b00ks!
<azonenberg_work>
because all of my fpga boards are in my house :p
<sn00n>
since i think "radiation" is scary :)
<sn00n>
since it can kill me and then i don't care if my FPGA are still alive -.-
<sn00n>
yeah, maybe it's important for rockets and high energy particel accelerators
<sn00n>
and stuff like that :P
<sn00n>
deskside nuclear reactors i dunno
<pie_>
presumably awygle should also have a clue because spae
<pie_>
spaace
<sn00n>
space \o/
<pie_>
so what are we talking aboot
<sn00n>
space & nukes
<sn00n>
nukes in space!
<pie_>
that doesnt sound good
<sn00n>
what kind of FPGA is elon (spacex) using?
<sn00n>
and what's the fav FPGA of Kim (best korea team)?
<pie_>
dont they just have pilots for their missiles
<sn00n>
lol
<sn00n>
both? :)
<sn00n>
pie_: true story? (in the NK case)
<pie_>
i just made that up
<sn00n>
heh, youuu! :)
<sn00n>
but y not
<awygle>
Yeah atmel has stuff
<awygle>
Microsemi is used often
<awygle>
You can also get older Xilinx parts in rad hard processes
<awygle>
For $$$$
<awygle>
I actually don't know what the radiation threat model of the falcon 9s would be. On the one hand the exposure is much shorter, on the other hand there's people on them.
<awygle>
SEE mitigation is much different than TID, probably a lot more focus on redundancy than rad hard processes (unless they're just checking some standard box for Nasa)
<sn00n>
awygle: they said somethin about "to the moon" and "let's go to the mars"
<sn00n>
those spacex people
<sn00n>
so i guess, they need rad hard stuff?
<sn00n>
even if they don't want to deploy nukes, but who knows ... elon musk said something about nuking the mars poles
<azonenberg_work>
lolol
<azonenberg_work>
i know when digshadow was doing sat stuff they had an actel antifuse part doing some kind of low level watchdog and reset etc
<azonenberg_work>
then most of the logic was in a sram fpga that did SEU scrubbing and got reset by the antifuse part if things got borked
<awygle>
Yeah that's pretty common ime
<awygle>
If I was still in that business I'd be looking really hard at 10nm and smaller processes
<awygle>
Finfets seem to be fairly TID resistant because there's nowhere for charge to accumulate
<awygle>
Also iiuc SoI is much more common now?
<awygle>
Or possibly required at those nodes?
<pie_>
tfw image editing makes you consider getting a RAM upgrade
<azonenberg_work>
pie_: lol
<azonenberg_work>
image editing plus VMs is making me want an upgade from 32 G
<azonenberg_work>
i cant have vivado, a big chip image, and my usual complement of background service VMs running at once
<azonenberg_work>
and forget about gaming in the middle of that
<pie_>
i have 8gb
<pie_>
i have to stop firefox if i want to run a vm
<azonenberg_work>
Yeah
<azonenberg_work>
My next workstation is going to be a dual xeon with 128 GB
<pie_>
;_;
<azonenberg_work>
I hopefully wont run out for a while with that
<pie_>
how the f* do you find a 16gb stick on amazon
<pie_>
im getting every combo except
<azonenberg_work>
I was looking at newegg
<azonenberg_work>
and i was gonna buy a kit of 128G organized as i think eight 16G sticks?
<azonenberg_work>
or maybe four 32G
<pie_>
newegg probably isnt worth international :/
<azonenberg_work>
Yeah i dont know about outside CONUS
<pie_>
(i think they do that now?)
<digshadow>
awygle: TID is not a big issue for LEO
<awygle>
digshadow: yeah. Although it took a long time for certain people to accept that
<pie_>
TID?
<awygle>
Total Ionizing Dose
<pie_>
ah
<awygle>
"chip get slowly shitty because radiation", as opposed to SEE which is "chip explode/flip bit/etc suddenly because radiation"
<awygle>
digshadow: to quote an old boss, "I crap 5 leads"
<awygle>
Were you at Skybox or something?
<awygle>
*krads, not leads, dammit phone
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<pie_>
lol
<digshadow>
awygle: yes, early employee satellite engineering
<digshadow>
and before you ask, no I didn't get rich on the acquisition :P
<pie_>
goddd 16gb sodimms are so expensive though
<awygle>
Ha, I wasn't going to ask
<awygle>
I was at Planetary Resources
<digshadow>
how are they doing these days?
<digshadow>
I have a bunch of stickers from them on the fridge
<digshadow>
I want to know if they've gone up in value
<awygle>
Mmmm well shortly after I left they got substantial investment
<digshadow>
ah cool
<awygle>
And the 2nd generation satellite is supposed to be launched in the next couple of months
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<awygle>
We'll have to swap tales someday
<digshadow>
my favorite space stories probably come from the guy that joined us from moon express
<qu1j0t3>
Planet Express? :)
<digshadow>
ha
<digshadow>
I never heard him joke about that. I should ask
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<awygle>
Oh wow that would be interesting
<awygle>
My favorite came from Lord British
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<awygle>
Definitely the most interesting astronaut I've met
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<digshadow>
awygle: buzz aldren was around moon express, and he evidently says whatever the f he wants
<awygle>
That I believe lol
<azonenberg_work>
lol
<pie_>
i went to the moon your argument is invalid