<reportingsjr> balrog: what's a sparkfun layout?
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<mithro> anyone know HLC here?
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<daveshah> mithro: I think you're the first person to actually use it
<whitequark> HLC?
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<daveshah> A higher level way of describing an iCE40 configuration than an ASC file
<daveshah> Built as a GSoC project last summer, IIRC
<G33KatWork> kc8apf: I like how you are raging about the "openness" of EtherCAT like me ;)
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<digshadow-c> kc8apf: were you hoping to use EtherCAT for something
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<kc8apf> G33KatWork: I loathe organizations using "open" when they mean royalty-free, pay-to-play, etc
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<kc8apf> digshadow-c: I was. Not anymore.
<daveshah> kc8apf: better than VESA, who try and claim DisplayPort as open
<daveshah> with several thousands in membership fees needed in reality
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<gruetzkopf> yeah
<gruetzkopf> modern DP versions are unobtainable
<gruetzkopf> anything with multistream and high-speed aux channels
<daveshah> I was able to find DP1.3
<daveshah> nothing beyond that, when I looked
<shapr> is that why it's so hard to find support for displayport1.3 or later?
<gruetzkopf> the gfx vendors are all VESA members
<gruetzkopf> newer DP versions are less simple than old stuff if you want complete support
<pie_> rqou, adam replied saying that he will try to scan them in when things calm down at work so yay \o/
<balrog> gruetzkopf: you mean DP 1.4?
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<azonenberg> DP 1.2 at least is open
<azonenberg> i think
<mithro> morning people
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<kc8apf> CAN ends up being either an expensive membership with CAN-iA or a ridiculous # of separate specs from IEC
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<shapr> iirc, DP 1.2+ is required for multimonitor on the same port
<azonenberg> multimonitor on one port? why would you do that
<azonenberg> vs just having two ports
<daveshah> laptops
<shapr> I was hoping to drive two monitors from a mini-DP
<zkms> good morning
<shapr> bonjour zkms
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<kc8apf> azonenberg: chaining 3-4 monitors is very convenient
<azonenberg> kc8apf: i've always just used multi-output video cards
<azonenberg> and run everything point to point
<shapr> I don't have a desktop, I do everything on my laptop
<shapr> With this laptop (ThinkPad P50), the dock has sufficient ports to run a bunch of monitors, but with the last one (ThinkPad X230) I did not, so was hoping to run two monitors over DP1.2+
<gruetzkopf> https://twitter.com/tlercher/status/983027225304948736 this is what i do for multi-monitor-support on laptops :>
<shapr> wow, is that ... wires soldered onto a PCIe card from ... what kind of port? eSATA or something?
<zkms> tfw my laptop doesn't have expresscard slot or any other way to get PCIe lanes to the outside :<
<shapr> oh wow, expresscard
<shapr> wow
<azonenberg> is that still a thing?
<gruetzkopf> sadly, not really
<gruetzkopf> and TB3 controllers are not publically documented :(
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<shapr> I have tb3 on my laptop, but I don't know if there's a multi-monitor pluggy for that.
<gruetzkopf> there should be
<gruetzkopf> (though tb3 is bandwidth-limited compared to DP1.4)
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<gruetzkopf> a 4-lane DP1.4 at highest link-rates gets around 100GBit/s payload capacity, (would fit a usb-c connector!)
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