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<damianham> Guys thank you all for your suggestions, much appreciated. So a bit of background about where this question is coming from. I have been a fan of BDD for a long time and I have used it on some projects to get the stakeholders to accurately specify what they want from an application. I have worked on a multi-million $ contract for AT&T where paying for design consultants was no problem. I have also worked on Rails
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... contracts for mom & pop shops where there was no budget to bring in a designer to specify the system. In these cases I get the mom & pop to write cucumber features and scenarios which I then turn into step definitions to verify the app satisfies their requirements. Gerkhin is just structured English words so they ... [https://gitter.im/amberframework/amber?at=5eabbefd7975db7ebfd914b7]
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<eliasjpr> That’s nice @damianham I wish I had a father who thought me how to build apps. I think the way you are structuring his learning is great. Please keep in mind that I still need to document more about the flux methods and add extensions to be able to do more simplex scenarios
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<waghanza> Hi, ⏎ Which logging level do you recommend for a an app in `production` ?
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<Blacksmoke16> notice/warning would prob be fine, however if you mean for benchmarks, prob disabled
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<waghanza> yep, for `benchmarks`. however, I thing we had rather to use a `production` level of logging (to have more meningful results)
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<Blacksmoke16> hard to keep things fair, imo. those that just dont have any logging in the first place would be faster than those that do
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<waghanza> sure, but trying is better ❤️ in deed, we can not be perfect, but we can take / notice
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<Blacksmoke16> they require disabling disk logging, and recommend disabling console as well
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<waghanza> I can understand technical arguments, but disable this feature, mess up results. I mean, say framework A has more performance than framework B is wrong if one has logging and the other not
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<waghanza> logging is an essential feature of any production stack, btw
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<Blacksmoke16> right, but how are you going to ensure each framework has a comparable amount of logging to each other?
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<waghanza> ensure => I can not ⏎ do my best => I can
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<waghanza> the idea is to involve all awesome devs in OSS ❤️
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<Blacksmoke16> granted i guess there shouldnt really be any logs anyway since there wont really be any errorss
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<waghanza> yep
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<eliasjpr> INFO for production
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<eliasjpr> That what we use at work
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<eliasjpr> Amber logs a lot by default which is meant for development more than prod