lkcl changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net
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<SPG> Chris master 668caee rhombus allwinner/a20/EOMA68-disassembly.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=668caee
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<SPG> lkcl master 20122ef rhombus allwinner/a20/EOMA68-disassembly.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=20122ef
<SPG> lkcl master e3a716b rhombus allwinner/a20/EOMA68-disassembly.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3a716b
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<SPG> Jos_Luis master 4e36eae rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/jose.laica__64__gmail.com.html * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e36eae
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<SPG> Jos_Luis master d246bd5 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/jose.laica__64__gmail.com2.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=d246bd5
<hramrach> jinzo: I could not find even any rk31 benchmarks :/
<jinzo> damn :/
<jinzo> I'm a bit behind and don't have the time to keep up with all this stuff
<hramrach> A20 and A31 did not turn out that nice. A20 more cores but not much more memory bandwidth than A10
<hramrach> A31 has theoretically wider memory bus but there are some issues too. don't follow that one becasue it has lame graphics
<SPG> Jos_Luis master 3eaae83 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/jose.laica__64__gmail.com2.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=3eaae83
<jinzo> yeah, but at least A20 truly is priced very near A10
<jinzo> RK doesen't leave good taste in the mouth with linux support (and performance was not that stellar in previous chips too)
<hramrach> it's drop-in replacement potentially improving mp performance at the cost of up performance
<jinzo> but it looks like RK3188 is the go-to SoC for cheap stuff on quad cores - and supposedly better than the ATM shit
<hramrach> the arch is updated since a10 so some things are better but there is potential for new bugs
<hramrach> why would you want quad?
<hramrach> if it has more memory bandwidth than A20/A31 then sure
<hramrach> if not the cores will idle
<hramrach> most likely
<jinzo> I don't specificly want quad, but just interested in performance aspects
<hramrach> I am interested in perf aspects of rk too
<jinzo> and which SoC to suggest to friends/relatives to look into
<hramrach> but the linux support is not even at the point you could measure the performance
<jinzo> yeah I know
<hramrach> the kernel does not support cpufreq scaling yeat and the SoC does not default to max from the bootloader (which is closed)
<jinzo> I would go with Exynos/i.mx6 if I would look performance + linux
* hramrach likes exynos performance
<jinzo> the new Octa's look sexy, and ODROID even has a board out now.
<jinzo> which is nice.
<jinzo> s/ODROID/hardkernel/
<jinzo> I think we're closing on the "this is usable as a limited workstation" milestone with those SoCs
* hramrach typing on a chromebook
<hramrach> yes, the exynos really looks usable
<hramrach> with small screen at least
<hramrach> still problems with video playback and 3d, though
<jinzo> :/
<hramrach> 3d is probably doable but video :/
<jinzo> the new chromebook pixel is x86?
* jinzo googles
<hramrach> pixel is x86 I think
<jinzo> because that has a big ass screen resolution :D
<jinzo> yeah, i5 even :/
<hramrach> but there is this arm netbook from samsung shipped with chromeos preinstalled
<jinzo> and acer too afaik?
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<hramrach> yes. probably
<jinzo> anyway I have to run, it was a pleasure.
<hramrach> won't touch anything from Acer unless I can see it in advance and it has *lots* of *very* positive reviews
<Gumboot> I see a fan!
<Gumboot> CA15 _can_ be run fanless at full speed, right?
<Gumboot> Also wondering how Dual and Octa compare for OpenCL-style tasks.
<WarheadsSE> jinzo: samsung is the ARM
<WarheadsSE> series 3
<WarheadsSE> Gumboot: yup, it has a fan, between the CPU & power monitoring chip
<Gumboot> Kind of spoils the point of it all, for me.
<WarheadsSE> hramrach: video playback should be mostly portable as lima comes along, and we get some access to the decoders
<Gumboot> Well, half of it. The other half is that x86 is a horrible ISA.
<WarheadsSE> well, the S4(intl) is thermal throttled a bit, and has the beauty of being rested right afainst the frame for heat dissipation
<WarheadsSE> pepperflash does work fairly well hramrach but I wouldn't attempt a 720p playback..
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<hramrach> WarheadsSE: lima does not do video, it does 3d
<hramrach> and 720p is lame. today common content is 1080p. if you can't play that you don't have a video player .
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<WarheadsSE> hramrach: I wouldn't want to use this non-1080p screen for viewing, tbh
<hramrach> WarheadsSE: so would you want to recode?
<hramrach> it's not about getting the supreme quality. it's about getting any playback at all
<hramrach> plus you ahve a HDMI connector :p
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<WarheadsSE> hramrach: I have tv's for movies
<WarheadsSE> for which I have chromecast && WDTV Live attached
<hramrach> I don't. And you can't pack a TV into a laptop bag
<WarheadsSE> Yeah, but I can pack my tablet
<hramrach> which has totally 1080p screen
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<WarheadsSE> close
<WarheadsSE> or as close as you're going to really get.
<hramrach> there are 1080p tablest these days
<WarheadsSE> I can't remember.. is the new nexus7 1080? .. i just said shuttup and take my money..
<hramrach> but the point is not that you can packa a tablet. The point is that if you pack a device you either can play 1080p on it (even if the screen has lower res) or it's useless for media playback/review/..
<WarheadsSE> Yeah, I don't use my hromebook for media
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