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RITRedbeard >
colors?
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RITRedbeard >
on my IRC network?!
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RITRedbeard >
it's more likely than you think.
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lkcl >
it's life jim, but not as we know it
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lkcl >
there's colour on that page, too.... but watch your eyes...
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lkcl >
hmm... buggered that up
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lkcl >
achh, too long
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Skaag >
Is it generally a convention that I have to compile as a module if I want support for something?
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Skaag >
for example usblp doesn't show up when I modprobe it, and the printer I hooked up to my A13 is not detected
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Skaag >
I had the same issue with the touchscreen module
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Skaag >
when it was built into the kernel, it didn't work, but when compiled as a module, it works
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RaYmAn >
they just link to xda though, lol
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RaYmAn >
(incidentally, it should be trivial to port it to
*any* cyanogenmod supported device)
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focus >
RaYmAn: is it Ubuntu proper that is running or is it something on top of Dalvik/Android?
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RaYmAn >
it is ubuntu proper
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RaYmAn >
The graphics drivers are just hacked in through android
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RaYmAn >
(it's a fancy linker hack that allows glibc based programs to load the bionic based graphics drivers)
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focus >
Hmmm - does that mean A10 could probably run ubuntu proper? :) - please say yes...
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RaYmAn >
theoretically
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RaYmAn >
can't it already though?
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RaYmAn >
without hacky android shit mingled?
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RaYmAn >
ubuntu itself is running natively and it accesses the screen directly
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RaYmAn >
(as opposed to running in a chroot and allowing access over vnc to localhost)
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focus >
A10 runs linaro as far as I know, but lots of work with pengpod to make it easy to use
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focus >
The ubuntu team sorting all that out - still not there yet - for example, to log in requires real keyboard!! :(
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focus >
RaYmAn: +1 proper
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rm >
you could download a number of distros that run natively and access the screen directly
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rm >
and the post says it was created "9 months ago"
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RaYmAn >
with 3d accel? (9 motnhs ago?)
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rm >
but yeah, none of those were tablet-optimized out of the box
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rm >
if that's what you meant
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rm >
RaYmAn, who said anything about 3D accel? :)
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RaYmAn >
it was implied :P
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rm >
<rm> define "proper"
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rm >
<RaYmAn> ubuntu itself is running natively and it accesses the screen directly
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rm >
then that wasn't a complete definition :)
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RaYmAn >
rm: meh :P It's super easy to get most ubuntu dists running on any arm board with fbdev
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L84Supper >
only $93
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L84Supper >
any news on the pricing for the Quad Core Exynos device?
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L84Supper >
no SATA on either device :(
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fossxplorer >
Exynos device is coming soon
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fossxplorer >
So i've not seen the device for sale nor the price
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fossxplorer >
GK802 i getting cheaper likely because the F9 is coming
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fossxplorer >
I'd rather go for F9
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fossxplorer >
get 13132 to 13500 in Antutu :)
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RaYmAn >
I don't see any price mentioned anywhere
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fossxplorer >
should not be too much above GK802's
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fossxplorer >
IMHO, 100 bucks for GK802 is too much
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rm >
remember that the old A10 MK802 started at $74
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fossxplorer >
Ha, that's crazy
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RaYmAn >
performance should be well, four times better ;P
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rm >
and became a hit even for that price (well, many thousands of orders)
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fossxplorer >
I wasn't "into" Android devices at that time :)
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fossxplorer >
what a price drop
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rm >
and it also gained RAM
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fossxplorer >
Also when i comes to quality and warranty...you are left on your own
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fossxplorer >
It's part of the game of Chinese products
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fossxplorer >
I'm not saying Chinese products are necessarily bad, but there is a difference!
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buZz >
most chinese sellers i have done business with just give warranty?
16:53
* buZz
wonders what dubious sellers fossxplorer uses
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buZz >
most even just send a new device when the old is not working, without asking returns
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mnemoc >
problem with chinese retailers is that shipping things back is awfully expensive
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mnemoc >
i've also got new devices sent just by showing pictures of the defect
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buZz >
they are really friendly
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buZz >
better than the deaththreats i've gotten from US sellers :D
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fossxplorer >
buZz, mnemoc is point + some blame on you for broken devices i've read on web
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fossxplorer >
yeah, i don't have any personal experience yet, but read some dreadful stories on forums
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buZz >
you are blaming me for broken devices? O_o
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fossxplorer >
buZz, which stores do you guys buy from. I've only bought stuff from dx.com
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buZz >
ebay, aliexpress
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buZz >
cubieboard.org :)
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fossxplorer >
So aliexpress is trustable?
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buZz >
why wouldnt it be?
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mnemoc >
focalprice, priceangels and lightake are great too
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mnemoc >
fossxplorer: aliexpress is the most trustworthy of all
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fossxplorer >
you can't trust chinese online sellers blindly, can you?
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mnemoc >
fossxplorer: sellers don't get paid until you are happy
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buZz >
it helps to be able to make concious decisions
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buZz >
and not just read something on a forum and assume it to be true in 100% of cases
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fossxplorer >
mnemoc, that means there is some sort of holding back payment?
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mnemoc >
fossxplorer: yes. until you receive the product and report to be happy with it
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fossxplorer >
mnemoc, that sounds like a good way to buy stuff
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mnemoc >
but very stressful for seller
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fossxplorer >
I hope F9 will be available at aliexpress :)
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mnemoc >
also, your feedback has direct impact on the future of that seller
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buZz >
what is an F9?
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fossxplorer >
see link above
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buZz >
dont have a browser :P
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buZz >
settop box using old exynos
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mnemoc >
a mele-like device made with exynos4
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buZz >
why buy exynos4 ow
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buZz >
exynos5 is coming sooooooooon
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fossxplorer >
then you gotta wait rest of your life
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buZz >
thats not so long
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fossxplorer >
When exynos5 devices hit chinese market, then there a new chips already on market i guess
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fossxplorer >
exynos5 is already in ArmBrix, but the shipping from Korea is another story
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fossxplorer >
IMHO, way to much of shipping costs
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buZz >
i guess you are quite young fossxplorer ;)
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fossxplorer >
what makes you say that?
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fossxplorer >
Age doesn't matter when i say $30 for shipping is too much for a device that costs $100
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buZz >
no i didnt refer to that
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buZz >
just general
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buZz >
doesnt matter
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fossxplorer >
I'm not "young"
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fossxplorer >
Anyone here with MK808B?
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fossxplorer >
Not sure if that can run Linux
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fossxplorer >
vs the MK808 which i know can
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buZz >
what chip is in it?
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fossxplorer >
rk3066
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buZz >
google rk3066 linux
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fossxplorer >
IIRC, that's got no HW XBMC support in Linux, but in Android
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buZz >
i think the rk devices are quite brickable
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fossxplorer >
buZz, picuntu supports that
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buZz >
well, then you answered your own question
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fossxplorer >
but there are some differences on mk808 vs 808b
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buZz >
its a totally different device
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buZz >
oh wait, not 802
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buZz >
still dont have a browser
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fossxplorer >
and the 808B isn't there
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fossxplorer >
808 and 808B are based mostly on the same HW
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fossxplorer >
there could be some differences like the WIFI chip, bluetooth e.g
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buZz >
you are not certain?
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fossxplorer >
i need to confirm if ^ works with Linux
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fossxplorer >
Nope, that's why i'm asking
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fossxplorer >
But 808 looks like a sure bet to run Linux
17:21
* buZz
is waiting for hardkernel to make an odroid-u3 with exynos5octa
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fossxplorer >
buZz, yeah, that would be awesome release!
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buZz >
its coming ;)
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rm >
and 1 GB of RAM!
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fossxplorer >
for sure?
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buZz >
well, at least exynos5
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buZz >
according to hardkernel
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fossxplorer >
why not at least 2GB ram?
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buZz >
because a lot of these devices have 1GB ram as max ;)
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rm >
I dunno, I was just kidding, is it really going to be 1GB of RAM? :O
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buZz >
dno, havent asked :)
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buZz >
i know Allwinner A10 doesnt support over 1GB ram
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fossxplorer >
too bad
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fossxplorer >
Any links to your rumors about U3?
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buZz >
just chat in #odroid
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buZz >
hardkernel visits that channel aswell
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