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<anunnaki> testing. www.google.com
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<penguin42> hehe sounds like it
<user135> indeed
<buZz> bit pricy
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<focus_it> I agree - about $100 when translated.
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* buZz still is hunting for a nice 7" A10 tablet
<buZz> seen some for 70 usd, but most have 512mb ram (N)
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<ganbold_> buZz: did you check ainol? http://www.ainol-novo.com/buy-products.html
<buZz> ganbold_: just seen them with A13 chips
<buZz> and again 512MB
<buZz> :P
<buZz> ebay and aliexpress feature some
<ganbold_> 1gb
<buZz> >100 usd
<ganbold_> ah :)
<buZz> i can work with a 800x480 screen on 7"
<buZz> dont need retina/ips/zomg1080p screens
<ganbold_> amlogic, rockchip, boxchip etc, do those have any substantial difference than a10?
<ganbold_> buZz: did you check http://micdigi.com?
<buZz> yeah high noise, low signal
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<buZz> rockchip/amlogic i have no clue about running my own distro on it
<buZz> with an A10 tablet, i could just use my experience from cubieboard to make a rootfs for it
<ganbold_> yeah, not so many a10 tablets
<buZz> hmhm
<buZz> i'll find a proper one eventually ;)
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<penguin42> buZz: Well the rootfs's are pretty similar; except for the boot loader and the X hacking across most of the ARM devices
<penguin42> buZz: The harder problem (as I found out and haven't yet fixed) is that the rk boards are somewhat easier to brick
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<buZz> allwinner a10 seems unbrickable
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<penguin42> nod
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<w00tc0d3> buZz: well, my Exynos4412 is unbrickable! :D
<w00tc0d3> it's capable of booting from SDCard
<w00tc0d3> Samsung Galaxy SIII
<buZz> yes very nice, now point me to a 70 usd exynos4412 tablet
<buZz> OH DOESNT EXIST
<buZz> right
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<rz2k> w00tc0d3: only problem is that you need signed u-boot and trustzone env
<rz2k> thats just fyi
<w00tc0d3> rz2k: we broke tz afaik
<w00tc0d3> we have uboot running
<rz2k> any read about that?
<w00tc0d3> buZz: point me to an Allwinner A10 quadcore A9 on 1
<w00tc0d3> 1.6GHz*
<rz2k> I have odroid-x2 that I cant run with my own u-boot because of tz/signing needed for fw1
<buZz> hahahaha
<w00tc0d3> oh it doesn't exists :D
<buZz> A10 has singlecore
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<w00tc0d3> rz2k: I'll give source code links
<w00tc0d3> buZz: that's why I said it :D
<w00tc0d3> buZz: you can't compare
<buZz> yes i can
<buZz> both have a price
<buZz> also i started with 'i am searching an A10 7" tablet'
<buZz> so suggesting exynos tablets has no point
<rz2k> I remember only users using the old not signed bootloaders, samsung werent dicks at some moment, then this tz/signing started.
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<w00tc0d3> rz2k: github.com/Rebell
<rz2k> this awesome
<rz2k> looks like these guys just reversed that blob from samsung and dont worry anymore.
<buZz> hahaha
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<buZz> tablet with keyboard dock, overclocking when docked
<buZz> overclocking is enabled by pumping air from the keyboard to the tablet :P
<penguin42> I can't help but thinking that's solving the wrong problem :-)
<buZz> heh yeah
<buZz> also, its quadcore x86
<buZz> booooo
<buZz> :)
<penguin42> yeh did you see the specs on the Google Pixel device?
<buZz> HORRIBLE
<penguin42> but at least x86 MMU is turing complete: https://github.com/jbangert/trapcc
<penguin42> I'm just watching the youtube talk on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXmYIP7yiyQ
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<jelly-home> that's.. sick
<buZz> and sexy :D
* mnemoc wanted that screen but with a exynos5 octa inside :|
<jelly-home> and a pony!
<mnemoc> and for $349
<buZz> 250 usd and should have a cupholder
<buZz> :)
<penguin42> buZz: Well the i5 it's got should be able to keep your coffee warm
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<buZz> sweet
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<libv> mnemoc: +1
<libv> i was really disappointed to see that it had intel inside and an insane pricetag
<penguin42> ouch, $1300
* penguin42 wonders what the cost of the LCD is
<penguin42> hmm is that a bad price for a good i5 laptop (other than the disk size)
<specing> overpriced much?
<penguin42> I guess they're trying to price against a MacBook Retina
<Turl> well, it has a better screen than one
<Turl> and it supposedly can run full linux too
<specing> penguin42: the problem is intel
<Turl> google sent some patches mainline to support the touchscreen, touchpad and stuff
<specing> intel is segmenting their market and is generally overpriced
<Turl> (yes, it has a touchscreen too)
<penguin42> Turl: And as I understand their full power/system controllers
<penguin42> specing: Well the cost of the i5 would only be a small chunk of that price
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<penguin42> heck, it's only a 1.8GHz
<penguin42> I can't find it on ark.intel.com; odd - the lowest i5 I can find is 2.3GHz, lists as $250
<Turl> the screen is probably the priciest part
<Turl> followed by the research&dev cost of adding konami code easter egg to the led thingy
<penguin42> Turl: I suspect that aluminium machined body can't be cheap and if it's they've done their own controller chip that is going to have cost a few $M
<penguin42> iFixit haven't got around to tearing one down yet :-(
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<penguin42> hmm 17" 1920x1200 replacement panels seem to be about $90 online that's not too bad; can't find prices on the higher res ones
<penguin42> iPad3 LCDs only seem to be about #60 - that would be kind of nice for something
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<hno> Turl, whish watchdog code still have that comment?
<hno> needs update.
<Turl> hno: yes, it does
<hno> Which one?
<Turl> hno: the one on linux-sunxi
<Turl> (is there any other one?)
<hno> What on linux-sunxi?
<Turl> the watchdog driver
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<hno> In the kernel?
<Turl> yes
<hno> thought you meant the site..
<Turl> nope, the code
<hno> I don't see any such comment. Which version?
<hno> Yes, found it now.
<hno> it's a stale comment.
<Turl> ok then, I'll ignore it :)
<Turl> hno: also, does this one look ok to you? http://sprunge.us/UMgA
<Turl> hno: I was using busybox watchdog -t/T options, which send the ioctl after the watchdog started (which is always the case, because it starts when you open the file), so it wasn't ever applying the correct times.
<hno> Looks fine.
<hno> Err, it need to be before the kick.
<hno> Or actually, there should be no kick. set_timeout does kick.
<Turl> yes, there is no extra kick (it has -)
<Turl> better with colors :) http://sprunge.us/UMgA?diff
<hno> Ah, yes, It's fine.
* hno is a bit tired tonight.
<hno> Earlier the kick also set the timeout, But was before we knew the magic undocumented secret how to kick the watchdog.
<Turl> hno: the driver needs a bit of a rewrite for mainline, there's a watchdog framework now
<hno> ok
<hno> when was the framework added?
<hno> Ok, I see it. Got confused as there is several other watchdog drivers not using the framework.
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<Turl> it got merged on 3.0 apparently
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<hno> Yes, which is before I wrote the sunxi driver, but happened to start from one which is not using the framework.
<hno> Really should get the platform_device definition moved out of the driver as well.
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<user135> Turl, do you know how I can enable the ram console with the sunxi kernel?
<Turl> user135: yes, you can
<Turl> ah, sorry, how
<Turl> enable it on the kernel config
<user135> okay, what's the switch?
<Turl> CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE
<user135> great! thanks :)
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