<GeorgeIoak>
i still boot on the lcd, and since i chaged the fex i now have hdmi and lcd working together but lsmod doesn't show the lcd module
<GeorgeIoak>
and it's in /etc/modules
<GeorgeIoak>
actually both lcd and hdmi are missing and the order is reversed
<GeorgeIoak>
i didn't load sata before, i wonder if that could be throwing something off
<GeorgeIoak>
of course i'm not that lucky, just cpufreq_stats, mali_drm, mali, ump
<GeorgeIoak>
if i modprobe lcd i get "FATAL: Error inserting lcd (/lib/modules/3.0.57/kernel/drivers/video/backlight/lcd.ko): Operation not permitted"
<GeorgeIoak>
something changed in backlight or i added something?
<GeorgeIoak>
i see there's a lcd.ko in .../video/sunxi/lcd as well as in .../video/backlight
<buZz>
ooo hdmi and lcd working together?
<buZz>
mirrored or extended?
<GeorgeIoak>
i'll never tell
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<GeorgeIoak>
i should take a picture
<buZz>
lol
<GeorgeIoak>
i chose disp_mode=4 so mirrored
<GeorgeIoak>
i want to get those damn modules loaded so i can at least test video playback. silly thing was on the last card it just worked, no fuss, no muss
<buZz>
then why not go back?
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<GeorgeIoak>
because i spent 2 days and hours of ssvb time trying to get it working and we always got software renderer and then for some reason what we did broke cedarx so now that doesn't work either
<GeorgeIoak>
so i figured i would start clean and just try mali drivers once just to see if they'll work for me cause ssvb said that it's worked for others
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<GeorgeIoak>
i guess i could punt and try to compile vlc w/ cedarx on this new system but then i'm not sure how that would integrate into the kiosk "app"
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<GeorgeIoak>
ok if i modprobe lcd i see in the log "Unable to create backlight class, errno = -17
<TestModule>
First time i've seen this... is anyone else using GCC 4.7.2? cp: cannot stat `build/sun4i_defconfig-linux/output/lib/modules': No such file or directory
<techn_>
lol lima is 2% faster than binary driver ;D
<techn_>
oh.. it ended.. question phase started :(
<techn_>
where I can see full video?
<techn_>
libv: Impressive presentation.. atleast last 5mins :p
<ZaEarl>
awesome q3a demo
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<NomerUNO>
hello all. Who can help me with compile linux kernel (pure linux, not android) for allwinner a10 processor? Device - Ainol Aurora I (china tablet pc). Trouble - Screen is not enable after run tablet.
<NomerUNO>
sorry for my bad english
<torindel>
NomerUNO: as for your lcd, fix your sys_config1.fex, as for linux kernel you need either crosscompiler for arm or just download something that can run in chroot and compile natively on android or whatever you have there atm
<RaYmAn>
well, so far it seems like dual core a15 is kicking tegra3's ass pretty easily
<sky770>
@swivelgames chkout #cubieboard
<hramrach>
graphics remains to be seen, yes
<swivelgames>
sky770, hahah, thanks :P
<sky770>
Full of sunxi data :D
<RaYmAn>
from what I've read, Mali T604 kicks tegra3's ass, but bench vs realworld is always hard to use
<sky770>
^
<hramrach>
also tgre people try to put driver in kernel
<hramrach>
it remains to be seen how much f the driver and how well it works
<RaYmAn>
driver in kernel?
<RaYmAn>
From what I've read, there has *only* been talk of opening up the 2D part, not the 3D part at all.
<RaYmAn>
It was misreported by a lot of online sites though
<hramrach>
yeah, the part they have in kernel so far is like fbdev
<hramrach>
so if they only waht that that will work but that's lame
<hramrach>
even sunxi has that
<RaYmAn>
nvidia has only talked about 2D ever
<hramrach>
and TI
<sky770>
@rayman he meant: nvidia has merged the tegra's driver into the kernal..well afaik for tegra 4
<hramrach>
it's for tegra2 actually
<hramrach>
at least the patches I have seen
<RaYmAn>
sky770: so?
<hramrach>
swivelgames: what's the problem with flashing?
<RaYmAn>
sky770: again, all 2D stuff. It's not that much use. - it might give a better X11 or wayland driver for 2d stuff, but that's about it
<sky770>
Lol..nvidia's hoping to get a +ve feedback from the community after linus (and many others were upset) gave em the mid fingie of eternity
<buZz>
nvi-who?
<sky770>
Hmm
<RaYmAn>
they were already working on all of this stuff prior to linus
<sky770>
Yep..they did..n that was bs
<sky770>
Typical coporate bs
<sky770>
Corporate*
<hramrach>
if they did why is it released only now
<RaYmAn>
it takes time
<hramrach>
it's not so difficult to stitch together half-working fbdev driver if you can hire a full-time paid developer to do it
<buZz>
wait, nvidia released something usefull?
<RaYmAn>
They were slowly improving things way before linux bitched
<buZz>
not just a binary?
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<hramrach>
magic constants probably
<hramrach>
so besically decompile of a binary
* buZz
checks osnews
<hramrach>
the X11 nv driver was that way
<buZz>
hmm nothing there?
<RaYmAn>
in the early days of l4t, the x11 driver require a binary kernel module as well as a binary system daemon running - and they had to be compiled for the specific board
<hramrach>
it's old news
<hramrach>
some basic tegra support is in kernel
<RaYmAn>
then they got rid of the kernel module, putting much more stuff into kernel
<RaYmAn>
etc
<hramrach>
you even have option to select some tegra support in the sunxi kernels
<RaYmAn>
the mainline tegra stuff is still mostly useless unless you can live with completely headless and such
<hramrach>
RaYmAn: in hte early days of l4t they promised driver and it was not delivered for years
<RaYmAn>
but it's improving.
<RaYmAn>
"years"
<RaYmAn>
right
* sky770
hoping that the community should be able to run *nux on ouya
<hramrach>
so where is a working LInux distro you can install on a Tegra based device?
<RaYmAn>
on nvidia's site.
<hramrach>
never seen one there
<sky770>
Read on some random post abt a distro based off ubuntu on tegra 2
<sky770>
Buzz that's just the binary's link etc no distro :¦
<buZz>
sad
<RaYmAn>
sample file system
<RaYmAn>
:)
<RaYmAn>
"Sample file system (derived from Ubuntu 12.04, "Precise Pangolin")"
<sky770>
Lol..th fs broken HAH
<RaYmAn>
It's not going to just run on any old tegra board without modifications. That's just not how the world works.
<buZz>
s/the world/nvidia/
<RaYmAn>
it will work on the dev board it's made for
<RaYmAn>
more like embedded world
<RaYmAn>
at least until devicetree came along
<RaYmAn>
sunxi is special because they hacked up their own devicetree style thing
<buZz>
its because allwinner loves you
<sky770>
:D
<buZz>
almost as much as nvidia hates you
* sky770
kinda <3 amd
<RaYmAn>
oh, I'm sure nvidia hates me
<RaYmAn>
:P
* RaYmAn
ponders where the hell he put the image he released for linux on NI Adam all those years ago
<hramrach>
RaYmAn: I did look a lot
<TestModule>
I used that image on the Gtablet
<TestModule>
Rayman
<TestModule>
thxyou
<hramrach>
but how do you install on any device other than Cardhu and Ventana?
<RaYmAn>
it requires the kernel matching the drivers
<RaYmAn>
ubuntu added support for nexus 7 recently (not sure if it has gone past beta stage yet, but it works with full accel etc)
<sky770>
Cardhu is actually T30..right?
<RaYmAn>
cardhu is tegra3 yes
<RaYmAn>
ventana is tegra2.
<sky770>
Hm
<RaYmAn>
at the current stage, the drivers are board-agnostic
<RaYmAn>
they didn't use to be
<RaYmAn>
the kernel just has to have the right interface/driver available for the binary drivers to use
<hramrach>
if they are board agnostic why is harmony no longer supported?
<RaYmAn>
It's not supported by the kernel and the bootloader they release
<buZz>
what is the recommended way of picking a mac address to set as static?
<RaYmAn>
if you port the kernel to harmony, you can use the drivers just fine.
<hramrach>
well, yeah
<hramrach>
without any docs from nVidia
<RaYmAn>
sure
<hramrach>
not even enough interconnect docs to port drivers for 3rd party devices from one kernel version to anohter
<RaYmAn>
I ported a harmony based device to 2.6.36 just fine.
<RaYmAn>
I ported 2.6.36 (and later 2.6.39) to NI adam. It was based on the harmony reference design and came with 2.6.32
<RaYmAn>
Lack of docs is just an easy excuse for people to not bother to try.
<RaYmAn>
for me, the really interesting part about ouya is whether it will have nvflash available
<RaYmAn>
unbrickability and easy reformatting etc is awesome
<TestModule>
Are there teardowns of theouya yet?
<sky770>
Nope
<RaYmAn>
only devs have gotten them and i guess they might not be allowed to?
<sky770>
just the specs n the dev console has been released
<TestModule>
Does anyone know if it will be usb or ac powered?
<sky770>
Nah..I guess nobody will care to try that out on a $800 console..that too for the sake of trying out..u knw
<sky770>
:D
<sky770>
Ac
<RaYmAn>
I guess i should try and poke some of my friends at Unity Technologies, I hear they comited to supporting it so I guess they have one
<sky770>
Oh..there are many vids of ouya's unboxing n the like on tube(if anyone's interested)
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<sky770>
@rayman +1 should be interesting :)
<hramrach>
RaYmAn: specifically the NI tablet has some driver issues
<hramrach>
there is some roms avaialble but none working
<hramrach>
maybe ther is just nobody capable working on it
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<RaYmAn>
hramrach: primarily camera is missing - the rest are mostly working. But yeah, most people can't be bothered working on it anymore
<RaYmAn>
I'm not saying it's easy to make these things work, but it's certainly possible.
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<gzamboni>
Thank you Turl
<gzamboni>
i have read some of the documents of the kernel directory but i thinnk i need some general scope. I will buy that book
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<hramrach>
RaYmAn: everyhing is possible
<hramrach>
but sometimes it's cheaper to buy another device than making a brick work :s
<hramrach>
but yeah, the roms have even trivial bugs like devices beaing mounted ro all the time
<hramrach>
and everything about android is just annoyig. you can't ahve an AXP driver in kernel, you have to download damn devkit to see the internal flash