<extrados>
I'm trying to install debian on nand instead of an external SD, but nand-part says "all partition tables are bad!". How would I go about fixing the partition tables?
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<TestModule>
You don't get it, i already tried before, way way way before
<TestModule>
in fact, giving the info, bins, etc
<TestModule>
i don't care about that one, i was trying to undercover push because libv pulled something where he got the mk802-1gb pulled or the request pulled
<TestModule>
i don't have time for office-chatter, thank you.
<TestModule>
the link is in your pm
<rm>
I am not one of the ones who controls your merge or not-merge, I don't develop that stuff
<TestModule>
Just saying, since you critically inquired.
<mnemoc>
things get reviewed as time allows. and our time is limited too
<TestModule>
This wasn't reviewed, this was removed.
<TestModule>
Huge difference.
<mnemoc>
what was removed?
<TestModule>
the name, mk802-1gb, when i tried
<mnemoc>
url
<TestModule>
it was called stupid, and dismissed. Granted, this may have been before the mini-x-1gb
<TestModule>
checking logs right now
<mnemoc>
it is a vivid memory for you, but we have no idea what are you talking about. I see bad pull request for u-boot-sunxi, 3 arguably bad pull requests for sunxi-boards for a10_mid_1gb with an open request, and a 3h-old pull request for sunxi-boards for mk802-1gb also with an open question
<mnemoc>
no clue what was removed of mk802-1gb
<TestModule>
Yes you do
<TestModule>
you see the aftermath, and then finally a retry after libv and someone else stopped barking for two weeks
<TestModule>
I'm not sure if you can see this, but it shows me as contrib'd, even though it doesn't show. This is because it was either deleted or redone by someone else after.
<mnemoc>
pull requests or github issues can't be deleted
<TestModule>
and you sir, on 12-10-12 told my friend to do the uboot jazz, which he then sent.
<mnemoc>
posts to the mailing list either
<TestModule>
the info was sent by him and myself, with two different mk802 1gbs (same result), with no result.
<libv>
?
<libv>
TestModule: mnemoc is not getting paid for this and cannot spend all his time on making sure all patches from all corners of the world are merged in
<libv>
TestModule: please send your patches to the mailinglist (again) if they were overlooked
<TestModule>
19:01 <libv> you only now ran into libusb? <--- that was to the person i took over for
<TestModule>
because i didn't believe him
<TestModule>
now, now i do
<libv>
ah, that guy
<TestModule>
He was right.
<libv>
TestModule: right about what?
<mnemoc>
that evil libv....
<gzamboni>
well, gpios seems to look fine using /sys/devices/misc/sun4-gpio in bouth senses, input and output.
<libv>
oh i am
<mnemoc>
gzamboni: people says the "ugly gpio" driver only works for outputs
<gzamboni>
as i see the problem is when using external irqs and an inprovement is to use the linux gpio driver, right ?
<libv>
i cannot abide it when stories do not add up
<gzamboni>
i just tested, and input is working
<gzamboni>
with the ugly gpio
<libv>
most of the time it is stupidity, and i end up bruising people who cannot help it, but quite often it is also willfull.
<gzamboni>
well, the state is not that fast, but this can be my pullup resistors as i am putting an output into an input pin
<mnemoc>
gzamboni: so you can read the values of the chosen input pins via /sys/devices/misc/sun4-gpio ?
<gzamboni>
yes, like this: cat /sys/devices/virtual/misc/sun4i-gpio/pin/pd13
<mnemoc>
libv: :)
<gzamboni>
i did put a button sitch between an output pin and the input pin using a pullup resistor for when it isnt in the pressed state
<libv>
TestModule: but feel free to point out how i influenced mk802-1gb uboot/sunxi-boards stuff
<gzamboni>
0 when not pressed and 1 when its pressed :)
<mnemoc>
gzamboni: cool :)
<TestModule>
You but need look at the commit history if tracked after deletion from mid-Dec it seems.
<gzamboni>
mnemoc the problem i had with my usd card was related about my distro
<libv>
TestModule: what commit history, where?
<gzamboni>
i was on mint, now i am using linux debian testing 7 and the sunxi-bsp sh works fine
<TestModule>
github
* mnemoc
still puzzled by the "it was deleted" part
<mnemoc>
that is merely 3h old and has an open question
<TestModule>
Look, i literally sat here and provided those dram_paras to hno and you. It was also done once before, granted i was spoon feeding the kid because libv was shaming him.
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<TestModule>
The question was already answered.
<TestModule>
If something is incorrect, it is on behalf of the Chinese.
<TestModule>
just like the PMU situation.
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<rm>
> is this based on the script.bin of a real mk802-1gb dongle?
<rm>
this is a Yes or No question
<TestModule>
yes
<rm>
not implying something is incorrect
<TestModule>
let me get logs
<rm>
then would it kill you
<rm>
to reply
<rm>
in the damn github
<rm>
that Yes.
<libv>
TestModule: why were you not in here yourself, why did you have to feed someone else this stuff?
<rm>
before complaining here, etc
<TestModule>
i didn't even own the stick until i figured out he wasn't kidding.
<TestModule>
then i purchased one and said screw everyone, he was right.
<libv>
TestModule: don't you think that "the kid" would've been more believable if he actually was doing the work and not just badly translating back and forth?
<TestModule>
Now, he can barely use the man-pages, but looking over the logs he did everything required.
<oliv3r>
libv: while you have some nice gaming demo's i'm sure; does lima run xbmc yet? will there be a demo? :)
<oliv3r>
can't wait for the fosdem-vid
<mnemoc>
sorry, he won't spoil his presentation for us :p
<oliv3r>
well I know there was some 'news' about some opensource arm driver running xbmc
<oliv3r>
so if lima does it too
<oliv3r>
that'd be 'cool' news :p
<oliv3r>
i have to mail hipboi again where my melee a1000g is staying at :)
* mnemoc
wants to see the recording of libv's finger to broadcom/r-pi people :p
<oliv3r>
haha, so that's no suprise anymore eh
<oliv3r>
i was a little bit dissapointed when 'google buys 15.000 rpi's for UK schools'
<mnemoc>
:<
<oliv3r>
it totally sends the wrong message
<oliv3r>
even though it's just a marketing gimmic and whoever thought it up has no clue
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<mnemoc>
arm's board also deserves the finger for supporting (by inaction) the gpl violations of their licensees
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<ln2>
Buying rpis for schools is a bad idea?
<mnemoc>
closed hardware is bad for education
<mnemoc>
(closed software too)
<ln2>
I agree that we should lead by example. But these children are going to public school (closed source learning).
<ln2>
(Opinion inbound) Education is good for education. We will eventually have our cake and eat it too. But what if those 15,000 kids learn something where otherwise they wouldn't? (specifically Python, Ruby, or EE).
<mnemoc>
sure it's a good concept
<mnemoc>
but it could have been better
<ln2>
Cutieboards? Haha
<ln2>
*Cubie ***
<mnemoc>
nah. imx233-olinuxino for example
<mnemoc>
oshw
<ln2>
I'm actually ignorant to the platform. Are Freescale chips an open architecture?
<mnemoc>
more than broadcom ;-)
<ln2>
My wife is Bulgarian, I will probably be buying some of their A10 boards when they are released. ; )
<mnemoc>
they'll skip A10
<mnemoc>
A10S is in progress, next will be a sitara
<ln2>
I heard about the A10S board. But skipping A10 completely?
<ln2>
That is depressing, I really would love a board with SATA. =(
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<mnemoc>
they have a detailed roadmap in olinuxino's github
<ln2>
Do any olimex engineers come into this channel?
<ln2>
I will hopefully be going to visit soon, assuming they will let me in. Haha
<ln2>
mnemoc: What is your opinion of the Sitara SoC's? This is the first I've heard of them.
<ln2>
Got disconnected. =(
<mnemoc>
i don't like TI
<ln2>
Saw that coming! Haha
<ln2>
So would you say that Freescale is the most open at the moment?
<mnemoc>
less closed maybe? :p
<ln2>
Haha
<ln2>
I have an interesting question actually!
<ln2>
No drivers work in linux *period* for SoC GPU manufacturers. Does an SoC exist with an Nvidia GPU (Which now exists open, 3d drivers).
<mnemoc>
RaYmAn: -----^
<RaYmAn>
I'm not really sure what he's saying
<RaYmAn>
there are no open tegra drivers for 3d.
<ln2>
Does an Nvidia SoC GPU exist?
<RaYmAn>
yes, Tegra.
<ln2>
So Tegra is completely incompatible with desktop Nvidia GPU's?
<RaYmAn>
yes
<ln2>
How terrifying...
<ln2>
And as far as I know the AMD SoC's are compatible with their full size GPUs. But there are no open 3d drivers. =(
<ln2>
You guys are familiar with the EOMA-68 project I'm assuming?
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: but does the iMX233-OLinuXino run xbmc! that is the question! :p
<oliv3r>
but on paper it does look like a much better platofrm then the raspcrappypi
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: it's strange that they are skipping the A10 completly, I spoke with luke the other day, and he said that olimex might be a little ignorant as all the missing bits have been reverse engineerd and the A10 is almost FSF endorsable (with Lima and ignoring cedar)
<oliv3r>
ln2: this is the EOMA-68's main discussion channel :p
<br->
ln2: id be severely worried if a vendor shipped the same driver for desktop as for embedded
<oliv3r>
ln2: lkcl is luke.leighton, its 'founder'?
<oliv3r>
br-: Why? I bet the r600g driver would be just as good on an embedded platform as on a desktop. The driver should properly scale power requirements
<ln2>
The founder of OEMA-68 is in this channel? That is epic!
<mnemoc>
ln2: look at the topic of the channel
<ln2>
I did see that. Very cool.
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<ln2>
I've been following EOMA-68 for almost a year now. I'm way way too excited that its coming to reality *finally*.
<mnemoc>
this channel began with a chinese manufacturer fooling luke into buying a netbook with s3c2440 on sodimm arguing open source friendliness
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<ln2>
Haha! That is awesome. I've been fooled recently too. Most of the $35 mk802's are not A10's as advertised. Apparently. They are crafty...
<mnemoc>
after a year of pain, we gave up and the channel was abandoned and the mailing list went into inactivity until luke announced the eoma project
<mnemoc>
then the A10 soc appeared, and started taking over both the channel and the ml
<ln2>
I would like to contribute in any way that I can. Are there any official announcements of devices like tablets, monitors, laptops, cases with EOMA-68 support?
<mnemoc>
then instead of the eoma68-a10 the mele appeared, and then the mk802 and then the cubie
<ln2>
I have read through the wiki of course. But I mean an announcement of an actual piece of equipment with a price.
<mnemoc>
ln2: it's been told that luke assocates in china actually made a 14" eoma notebook and A10-based card
<ln2>
I've seen the card! It looks great! I was not aware of the notebook. That is truly exciting.
<ln2>
I have a CR-48. But I would gladly replace it with an EOMA unit.
<ln2>
mnemoc: What do you think the demand would be for a generic ABS case or monitor enclosure (like an all-in-one) for the cards? I have prototyping equipment (cnc, resins, ect. not 3d printing).
<mnemoc>
don't know. personally I would love to see an eoma68 all-in-one for schools, POSs, thin clients, etc...
<hramrach>
eoma might be nice
<hramrach>
but really, vga
<ln2>
That was *exactly* my thought. I had the idea (I'm sure many of you have) for EOMA-68 all in ones for VDI deployments. I ordered some materials last night and will start prototyping soon.
<ln2>
19" LCD panels with LVDS are available on aliexpress for dirt cheap. That will probably be my starting point.
<hramrach>
might have look like good idea beck when design started
<ln2>
VGA?
<hramrach>
iirc it has vga in the spec
<mnemoc>
eDP > LVDS
<mnemoc>
eoma68 has already shown it's age with usb3 and sata3
<hramrach>
oh, there is no VGA
<hramrach>
so probably confusing with something else
<hramrach>
eDP is cool but no way to get that on current chips
<ln2>
It's my understanding that the EOMA-68 pins have two LVDS channels + VGA.
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<mnemoc>
ln2: you are confusing eoma68 with the A10 SoC
<mnemoc>
GeorgeIoak: success? :)
<ln2>
I'm not confusing anything. =)
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: NO and I tried everything under the sun!
<ln2>
I'm aware of the AMD / Freescale cards ect.
<hramrach>
the eDP panels are cheaper but require an expensive companion chip in absence of SoC that supports eDP natively
<ln2>
Do the AMD SoC's support eDP?
<hramrach>
plus EOMA does not have eDP pins so even if the chip supported it it's no use within EOMA
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: I decided late last night to start w/ a fresh image and pull from the kernel. luck is not with me
<ln2>
You could potentially use GPIO pins if there are enough?
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: now the new image won't boot, can you take a quick look at the log and see if anything looks odd, http://pastebin.com/UUJNTnMf
<hramrach>
there are 4 reserved pins so would be likely enough for eDP
<hramrach>
or the GPIOs
<mnemoc>
GeorgeIoak: <6>Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2...
<GeorgeIoak>
yeah, the card looks fine on the desktop
<Turl>
either you don't have a second partition on it
<hramrach>
does it have 2+ partitions?
<Turl>
or you disabled mmc driver
<GeorgeIoak>
it does have 2 part, i had gpart chek fs
<GeorgeIoak>
hmm, it was late last night, let me post my new .config file too, i was trying to clean that up
<GeorgeIoak>
i also pulled a new linaro alip rootfs
<ln2>
The AMD G-T16R supports eDP.
<hramrach>
good for them I guess
<ln2>
That means that it is possible to use eDP panels with EOMA-68 / GT16R cards. O_O
<ln2>
Only 10 pins are absolutely required. Reserved / Not used pins can be utilized.
<ln2>
Has this been discussed before?
<mnemoc>
ln2: the mailing list is a better place as luke doesn't talk much here
<ln2>
Thats unfortunate. Not a fan of mailing lists. =(
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc, Turl: to make matters worse for me whatever ssvb and I did yesterday also broke vlc-cedarx playback so I am really SOL
<GeorgeIoak>
and customer coming in 4 hours so i'm just happy as can be :)
<mnemoc>
ouch
<Turl>
GeorgeIoak: did you change your fex recently?
<Turl>
config seems to be okay
<Turl>
maybe you changed pins or something on the mmc part of fex
<GeorgeIoak>
Turl: ssvb and I changed fb # to 3 or 4 but the fex i'm using should be default. i thought i would test first on hdmi before switching to LVDS to elimate 1 variable
<GeorgeIoak>
let me make a new script.bin from the suni-tools directory
<GeorgeIoak>
*george has fingers crossed*
<GeorgeIoak>
disp_clk: Could not find a matching pll-freq for 130150000 pclk, i've seen that a few times
<hramrach>
gt16r is x86?
<hramrach>
that sucks
<GeorgeIoak>
might be because i am using the same monitor for CB and PC and switching inputs
<hramrach>
possibly even 32bits only since it's targetted at small systems
<ln2>
If I get a basic poll hosted for EOMA-68 hardware would you guys consider contributing? Just sharing what hardware you are most interested in or would purchase. all-in-one, laptop, tablet, basic case, ect.
<mnemoc>
i got confused by the combination of "poll" and "contribute"
<ln2>
Oh I see. I meant to say "contribute to the data". =D
<mnemoc>
:)
<GeorgeIoak>
someone doesn't like me, no go even with the default fex. i pulled from the repo last night, any chance something broke?
<mnemoc>
GeorgeIoak: use the last tag, not the head of sunxi-3.0/3.4
<mnemoc>
just in case
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: now i think i'm really screwed. out in the sd card i was working w/ yesterday and bam, no go, different reason, http://pastebin.com/3ML7wCXf
<GeorgeIoak>
is my poor cubie dieing maybe?
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: i'll check that, i just did a git pull
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<Turl>
GeorgeIoak: maybe your sd card/slot got dirt inside
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<GeorgeIoak>
Turl: just thought of that, android boots from nand so at least the board is alive
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<Turl>
GeorgeIoak: that crash you linked is due to touchscreen in any case
<Turl>
GeorgeIoak: did you disconnect yours?
<Turl>
the driver needs fixing in any case, it shouldn't have a null ptr dereference
<GeorgeIoak>
turl: hmm, maybe cause i have my keyboard sitting on top of it...no sleep...
<GeorgeIoak>
Turl: ok, old card still boots. shutdown and go back to the new card
<GeorgeIoak>
sudo shutdown -P now
<Turl>
wrong window? :P
<GeorgeIoak>
what all you guys didn't shutdown, i meant to do that!
<GeorgeIoak>
not so lucky, what do you use to check cards, think it's a card problem or kernel trying to load a module problem?
<drachensun>
The A10s chips, they are marked differently right?
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<drachensun>
has anyone seen one?
<mnemoc>
drachensun: there is a picture in the mk802 page of the wiki
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<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: how do i pull the last tag from linux-sunxi, i've always just done git pull?
<drachensun>
mnemoc: thanks
<drachensun>
so its smaller too
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<mnemoc>
drachensun: yes, that's probably what the 's' means
<drachensun>
mnemoc: would make sense, on wikipedia they think it means streaming
<mnemoc>
and the A10S doesn't do anything that the A10 doesn't
<mnemoc>
s/and/as/
<ibot>
mnemoc meant: as the A10S doesn't do anything that the A10 doesn't
<herdingcat>
hi, is there any kernel fix for CB's led?
<herdingcat>
including SD card reading etc..
<mnemoc>
GeorgeIoak: git reset --hard mytag is a simple way
<GeorgeIoak>
thanks, i'm going back to redo the kernel just in case, i see the last tag is 3.0.57 so i'm going to use that
<mnemoc>
GeorgeIoak: sunxi tags, not mainline
<mnemoc>
git tag --list | grep sunxi | sort -V
<GeorgeIoak>
mnemoc: ok, got it, its sunxi-v3.0.57-r1
<mnemoc>
:)
<mnemoc>
the -r0 tags are just after the version jump, and the last -rN just before the version jump
<GeorgeIoak>
so after the git reset i should then git pull?
<mnemoc>
no
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<mnemoc>
if you pull you'll jump to the head (last commit in that branch) again
<GeorgeIoak>
is it obvious i don't do this regularly ;)
<mnemoc>
:)
<GeorgeIoak>
i was expecting file to come down and it just told me that the head had changed
<mnemoc>
git is so mainstream now that even MS added support for it in their next VS
<GeorgeIoak>
ok, once i get through this i'll go to git school!
<GeorgeIoak>
git, gitourous, svn ... i like gitorous, it rhymes with ..
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<GeorgeIoak>
so if i don't pull what do i do to get the last tag so i can recompile with it?
<mnemoc>
git reset moves you to the place you want
<mnemoc>
in this case a tag
<mnemoc>
you jump there, and build your kernel
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<GeorgeIoak>
sorry, my brain must be really slow. don't i need to do something like checkout tag to replace the files i have now from the generic git pull from last night?
<mnemoc>
git reset does that
<mnemoc>
git reset --hard I mean
<GeorgeIoak>
ok, what doesn't make sense to me is that i was expecting different files to be downloaded and nothing was
<mnemoc>
there is nothing to download, git is distributed, the whole history is there, within the .git subdir
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<GeorgeIoak>
ok, off to recompile i go
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<TestModule>
Does stage/3.4 work with nand?
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<mnemoc>
yes
<TestModule>
Awesome, sorry i read some mis-info on the gg list
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