#arm-netbook on 2013-10-11 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-02-27 01:11 lkcl changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net

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09:27 <arokux1> keebler: PMP availability -- great news!

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14:23 <WarheadsSE> which one is that on?

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14:45 <keebler> WarheadsSE: iMX6Quad

14:46 <WarheadsSE> oh, great

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14:50 <keebler> iMX7 will come out Q4 of next year, and be a quad Cortex A7

14:50 <buZz> Q4 2014?

14:50 <keebler> So far, with the iMX line they aren't doing the bigLITTLE approach.

14:50 <keebler> buZz: yes

14:50 <buZz> thats a bit late ..

14:50 <keebler> and yes... that's what I said.

14:50 <buZz> i cant wait for a allwinner a80 :)

14:51 <keebler> They put the iMX line on hiatus for almost a year, so they're playing catchup.

14:51 * WarheadsSE shrug

14:51 <keebler> buZz: What happened to A70?

14:51 <buZz> no idea, what happened to all the numbers between 31 and 80 ?

14:51 <keebler> Their 64 bit Arm A53

14:52 <keebler> A51M was supposed to come out this fall (quad A15 w/ MALI gpu)

14:52 <mnemoc> don't mix arm cortex names with allwinner names

14:52 <buZz> i have never seen heard or read about a 64bit from allwinner

14:52 <keebler> mnemoc: I'm not.

14:52 <mnemoc> buZz did

14:52 <keebler> Oh

14:52 <keebler> buZz: Then I will be quiet... I thought it was officially announced.

14:53 <buZz> i see here; > Early 2015 will see the launch of Allwinner’s first 64bit processors running A53 and A57 architecture.

14:53 <buZz> mnemoc: hm?

14:53 <buZz> where?

14:53 <buZz> i am waiting for; http://liliputing.com/2013/09/allwinner-unveils-allwinner-a80-octa-processor.html

14:53 <keebler> buZz: That's sad. :( They moved the roadmap from what I had.

14:53 <buZz> yeah looks like it

14:53 <mnemoc> < buZz> i cant wait for a allwinner a80 :) < buZz> no idea, what happened to all the numbers between 31 and 80 ?

14:54 <buZz> mnemoc: yeah allwinner A31 is a chipmodel

14:54 <mnemoc> buZz: ^----- you are talking about allwinner chips

14:54 <buZz> the quadcore

14:54 <mnemoc> and keebler is talking about ARM Cortex-A names

14:54 <buZz> i didnt know A53 was a cortex chip until just now ;)

14:54 <keebler> mnemoc: Now I see the confusion, but he didn't mix names

14:54 <keebler> Oh

14:54 <keebler> wtf

14:54 <keebler> Hahah

14:54 <buZz> :)

14:54 <keebler> And yes, A53 is Cortex.

14:54 <buZz> thank god we have mnemoc to set us straight

14:54 <buZz> :P

14:55 <mnemoc> *g*

14:55 <keebler> Their A70 was supposed to be based on the A53/A57

14:55 <keebler> Damn allwinner.

14:55 <buZz> :)

14:55 <keebler> You just HAD to use an A naming convention!

14:55 <mnemoc> apple too

14:55 <keebler> Yeah.

14:55 <keebler> A5-A4

14:55 <keebler> A-bsurd

14:56 <mnemoc> but allwinner and arm are equally irrational to name their products

14:56 <keebler> Intersting though, it looks like the A70 was completed replaced by the A80 and they did an entire line-jump

14:57 <mnemoc> their current work is in a 4xA15+4xA7 which seems to be a successor for the A31, so no sata and PVR

14:58 <buZz> -is- A80 4xA15 + 4xA7 ?

14:58 <keebler> My sources said SATA was supposed to be reintroduced.

14:58 <buZz> i couldnt find a source that described what was inside the octacore

14:58 <keebler> It's why they abandoned the A31

14:58 <mnemoc> A23 is a successor of the A13, craplet centric

14:58 <mnemoc> buZz: yes

14:58 <keebler> (they being my sources)

14:59 <buZz> cool :)

14:59 <mnemoc> but A31 is tabletish as A13 .... they swapped the numbers

14:59 <mnemoc> and A20 is 2xA10

14:59 <buZz> i hope it will get sata ...

14:59 <keebler> Yeah, the A51m (which is what I was told was now to be what they're calling the A80), was just A15 swapped

14:59 <mnemoc> so if they have some rationality, A80 should be 8xA10, so mali and sata

15:00 <keebler> But who the hell knows now.

15:00 <crazedpsyc> oh good, I'm not the only one who thinks those make no sense

15:00 <mnemoc> well... AW people knows.... but they don't want to tell anything about the GPU yet

15:00 <crazedpsyc> I thought there must be some logic somehow

15:01 <mnemoc> and considering they already paid for PVR....

15:01 <mnemoc> I see a sort of patern in A10, A1x, A20, A31 and A23

15:02 <keebler> Anyway, still months before these chips become cost effective.... I'm holding 3 A20-System On Modules SODIMMs in my hand.... flippin sweet.

15:02 <keebler> :)

15:02 <mnemoc> following that pater A80 should be A10-ish

15:02 <mnemoc> pattern

15:02 <mnemoc> but they make way too much emphasis in the tablet oriented goal of A80

15:03 <mnemoc> if this octa is A31-ish it could be also sun6i, if this octa is A20-ish it could be also sun7i

15:04 <mnemoc> if they mix sata and pvr, it's a new beast and running out of sunNi numbers

15:07 <buZz> maybe they will move to letters :P

15:07 <buZz> sunAi

15:07 <buZz> :P

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18:09 <jelly-home> sun(.5 + sqrt(3)*j)i

18:20 <buZz> :)

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