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<gleb>
Did we think about private set intersection for lists of connected peers, and disconnect from peers my peer is connected to? This would make network less clustered and allow to find/disconnect spies at the protocol level.
<gleb>
Perhaps this is an overkill, also challenging to make it robust against malicious peers we intersect with.
<gmaxwell>
gleb: I've disscussed it before and actually went and implemented an ECC PIR (which btw, is very poorly covered in the lit like multisig schnorr has been.. e.g. the protocols aren't really active secure)
<gmaxwell>
gleb: but I think ultimately its not that useful in the network as it is today because we have no sybil resistance.
<gmaxwell>
gleb: so it would just be an amplifying tool for eclipse attacks.
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<gmaxwell>
if people commonly had manual peering with trusted non-sybil friends, then it could intersect with those safely.
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<gleb>
Eh, I'm not even surprised, for everything comes to my might you have thought about it at some point..
<gmaxwell>
gleb: you're catching up.
<gmaxwell>
my research on that ended up being the basis of the countersign auth protocol that sipa and I have been working on.
<gmaxwell>
gleb: what I envisoned doing with it initially was just giving other developers a daemon they could run to pir intersect with me, so I could publish a banlist... then I realized people would just send me their peer lists if I asked nicely. :P
<gleb>
Oh yeah, I'm aware of the countersign part, I was thinking of pushing bip150/151 stuff forward [again], but it seems like jonas schnelli is resurrecting it already
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<gmaxwell>
I'm sure it could use some more help. :)
<gleb>
Perhaps I should reach out then, at least to find out what's the plan for the nearest future.
<gleb>
Btw, do you envision any interest in building something like a parallel (more trustworthy) sybil resistant network with PIR? Or it would be more harmful to have such "split"
<gmaxwell>
I think that might be interesting. I think having multiple p2p networks is a good thing, because attackers would have to attack all of them.
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<bsm117532>
What's your favorite MPC protocol/library and why? (crypto-related, Paillier is nice but not that germane)